Recipe for a 350 RWHP NA 2V

Boomer · December 29th, 2008, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by jivepepper

A dyno it nothing but a tuning tool and no one should but to much faith in the number they get.

I have seen cars pick up 25+ rwhp from one dyno to the next. Jivepepper your point is correct, it is a tuning tool unless you just dyno race it means very little.

jivepepper · December 29th, 2008, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by Boomer

I have seen cars pick up 25+ rwhp from one dyno to the next. Jivepepper your point is correct, it is a tuning tool unless you just dyno race it means very little.

I have an example.

I put 598 down at Big shot dyno and only 572 at SGS. But I perfer the tune from SGS. Both dynojets. SGS has an in ground and Big shot is a above ground unit.

My friend has a turboed v6 that put down 431 at SGS and 471 on a different dynojet that was mobile.

01GT4.6 · December 29th, 2008, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by gills99stang

I am MAD jealous of GT4.6's mods... I wish I had the money to continue to build up the suspension and drivetrain. With my Navy paycheck, a little bit at a time is all I can do. Any suggestions to get me to the 350 mark are greatly appreciated.

who... me? I wish I had money to

01GT4.6 · December 29th, 2008, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by gills99stang

I have less mods that you do, yet you're getting only about 300 on the dyno? That doesn't sound right.

dyno numbers don't mean much but I did lay down 320/333 on a mustang dyno. My car also traps 111mph (full weight, in the summer & NA) so I believe it's making pretty good power.

HBK_2007 · December 30th, 2008, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Boomer

AC and I discussed what Livernois did with their newer heads as well, I know I am bummed I never got a chance to make it work before some else. Sometimes this is the way things roll, I have learned to deal with it.

thread link?

Boomer · December 30th, 2008, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by HBK_2007

thread link?

To our discussion or the heads. As far as the discussion it was done PM, the heads are on Livernois website. All they did was close up the chambers and reshaped them a bit. As far as I know his (AC) heads made it to the modeling phase, mine made it to the flow bench and stopped there due to funds. Maybe AC will chime in if he got any further, I am not sure if he pursued it much further.

HBK_2007 · December 30th, 2008, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Boomer

To our discussion or the heads. As far as the discussion it was done PM, the heads are on Livernois website. All they did was close up the chambers and reshaped them a bit. As far as I know his (AC) heads made it to the modeling phase, mine made it to the flow bench and stopped there due to funds. Maybe AC will chime in if he got any further, I am not sure if he pursued it much further.

i was curious about the heads

acmillr · December 31st, 2008, 05:34 AM

Originally Posted by Boomer

To our discussion or the heads. As far as the discussion it was done PM, the heads are on Livernois website. All they did was close up the chambers and reshaped them a bit. As far as I know his (AC) heads made it to the modeling phase, mine made it to the flow bench and stopped there due to funds. Maybe AC will chime in if he got any further, I am not sure if he pursued it much further.

All I have pursued since our last conversation has been some sleep. I have had very little time to accomplish anything outside of my regular work. Sorry.

HBK_2007 · December 31st, 2008, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by acmillr

All I have pursued since our last conversation has been some sleep. I have had very little time to accomplish anything outside of my regular work. Sorry.

gotta pay the bills some how

neckbonekat · January 2nd, 2009, 01:14 PM

Well AC you have become the 'Dalai Lama' of MM and 2V Mustangs since I was last on here. How are things?

01stang232 · January 10th, 2009, 10:14 AM

i am in the process of a 450+ hp gt right now. we do the final parts order Monday!!! i will keep yall updated how it goes and the parts list. we are experementing with a cheap power setup up... as much power for as little money. $3000.00 budget for parts and labor. wish me luck. i think i will need it. lol

JayC · January 10th, 2009, 12:25 PM

Any find it odd that the "Recipe" is for 350 RWHP and the car never made those numbers?

Smoothgrandmama · January 10th, 2009, 12:34 PM

the car mad 351 if i'm not mistaken...or 349.3..

PapaSmurf · January 10th, 2009, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by JayC

Any find it odd that the "Recipe" is for 350 RWHP and the car never made those numbers?

Yeah but it came damn close. Who cares lol

jivepepper · January 10th, 2009, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Smoothgrandmama

the car mad 351 if i'm not mistaken...or 349.3..

349 but close enough.

jivepepper · January 10th, 2009, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by 01stang232

i am in the process of a 450+ hp gt right now. we do the final parts order Monday!!! i will keep yall updated how it goes and the parts list. we are experementing with a cheap power setup up... as much power for as little money. $3000.00 budget for parts and labor. wish me luck. i think i will need it. lol

Good luck because I'll you'll need.

Good heads and cams alone will almost cost that. That's not including gaskets labor. Plus no matter how well the heads flow and how aggressive the cams it's not going make 450rwhp with out some type of power adder. Plus it have high compression and be spun to the moon To even get some where close/

2400 for trickflow heads. 600 for cams, 400 for gaskets, and the arp head studs. That alone is 3400

With stock compression, ported stock heads, and cams you only see about 320 rwhp on the average.

HBK_2007 · January 10th, 2009, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by jivepepper

2400 for trickflow heads. 600 for cams, 400 for gaskets, and the arp head studs. That alone is 3400.

ive read 1995 for the tfs twisted wedge heads

JayC · January 11th, 2009, 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by jivepepper

349 but close enough.

Was that SAE corrected on a DynoJet? I'm not saying that the Dynojet is the best dyno but it is the most common for comparison. Standard corrected numbers are also always higher than SAE.
That car would probably be low 330's high 320's SAE at best.

slow02gt · January 11th, 2009, 05:05 PM

why does it matter? plus a dyno is nothing but a tunning tool.. he could probably go on a diff dyno it shows like 360...

jivepepper · January 11th, 2009, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by slow02gt

why does it matter? plus a dyno is nothing but a tunning tool.. he could probably go on a diff dyno it shows like 360...

Or 330's?

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