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Old August 25th, 2008, 12:01 PM   #1
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Functional GT scoop question..


Me and buddy of mine might cut into his hood later and i was just wondering.. Will there be any stability issues using the stock bolts for the scoop as long as the v6 "scoop" part is cut out? And is there anything i should know before hand? Any pointers maybe? Thanks guys...
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You cut out the hood under the scoop?

If so, I dont think there would be, but of course at high speeds, it could rip off. What do you mean by stability issues?
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I ended up just cutting the hole in the hood and drilling out the holes in the honeycomb.
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wouldn't that be bad in the rain? i wouldn't want to risk getting my coilpacks too wet.
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That was a bad idea man... I know many people that have tried this and it has led to bad results... hacking into your stock hood leads to consiquences. At 60+MPH, that scoop will come right off if its not glued down extremely strong.
The edges where you cut will rust bad.... the rain will make your engine dirtier that shit and could lead to enging/electrical problems if you drive in the rain a lot. etc etc...
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I ended up just cutting the hole in the hood and drilling out the holes in the honeycomb.
I did exactly the same thing. I dont have any water issues, even at the car wash!!
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Mines has been done for a while too, no issues here, even at really high speeds carwashes and all the rain we've has lately. Only time the water seems to come thru the hole is if i open the hood and waters on it.
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wouldn't that be bad in the rain? i wouldn't want to risk getting my coilpacks too wet.
What's the difference between cutting into the hood and the shaker hood scoops as far as engine getting wet? I've never really looked close at the shaker scoop but it seems like cutting under the scoop wouldn't make the engine any more wet than the shaker. This is an honest question, I'm not trying to be an ass.
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I'm not sure about kits like the CDC, but on the Machs for example, they are actually functional.

Cutting the hood scoop does nothing but make the engine dirty. It does nothing for performance.
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I haven't heard good things about that. I know that on MustangForums there are people who have tried it and their scoop came off at 80+ mph and cracked their windshield. They had to get a new hood, new scoop, new windshield and cost over a grand
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yeah if you do a search there are over 20 posts asking the same question, this is nothing new on this site. When i first got mine i thought the same thing, there is a scoop so why not make it functional, but there is no functionality about it, serves no purpose at all, and a little air going down the road on the engine might cool it down maybe 3 degrees which might gain you .000001hp. Its just for looks, just like the side scoop and the spoiler on the back, thats it.
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What's the difference between cutting into the hood and the shaker hood scoops as far as engine getting wet? I've never really looked close at the shaker scoop but it seems like cutting under the scoop wouldn't make the engine any more wet than the shaker. This is an honest question, I'm not trying to be an ass.
the shaker hood makes a seal to the hood and there's little water runouts on it. I asked that question about a year ago, and that's the answer I got.
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Ok, I cut out mine, and let me tell you, there were no edges to rust, it was ALL fiberglass. I didnt just cut out the V6 scoop, i cut out a little bit more, ill take a pic at some point and post it. I did however, Apoxy my hood scoop to the hood in addition to the bolts. I drilled out the honeycomb, and i did it cuz i was bored and just didnt like a non-functional hood scoop. there are no water issues, and i can say this from EXPERIENCE, yesterday I was at 145mph and there were no rattling, cracking, nothing flew off, it was fine.

And to let you know, i also cut my hood up IN the rain, (it was drizzling) and there were still no water issues.
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If you like it, then that's great man.
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Ok, I cut out mine, and let me tell you, there were no edges to rust, it was ALL fiberglass. I didnt just cut out the V6 scoop, i cut out a little bit more, ill take a pic at some point and post it. I did however, Apoxy my hood scoop to the hood in addition to the bolts. I drilled out the honeycomb, and i did it cuz i was bored and just didnt like a non-functional hood scoop. there are no water issues, and i can say this from EXPERIENCE, yesterday I was at 145mph and there were no rattling, cracking, nothing flew off, it was fine.

And to let you know, i also cut my hood up IN the rain, (it was drizzling) and there were still no water issues.
yep, thats what we were going to do exactly.. except we might just cut out the v6 part on the hood.. what kind of apoxy did you use? oh, and pics would be awesome.. I think we might do this tonight..
I know some of you think its a bad idea, but it seems like just about everyone that has done it has no problems with it, and i know there's no real gain from it.. He has the heat shield off his intake right now though, the filter is just kinda open so im sure that'll get some slightly cooler air in there.. I've been trying to get him to put it back on but i think its put away for the time being.
Anyway, thanks for the advice and help guys, the main reason for wanting to do this is i guess for the uniqueness.. and he really hates not having a functional hood.. Me having one doesn't help it either... lol
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Originally Posted by White99stang View Post
yeah if you do a search there are over 20 posts asking the same question, this is nothing new on this site. When i first got mine i thought the same thing, there is a scoop so why not make it functional, but there is no functionality about it, serves no purpose at all, and a little air going down the road on the engine might cool it down maybe 3 degrees which might gain you .000001hp. Its just for looks, just like the side scoop and the spoiler on the back, thats it.
yeah, i used the search.. sorry if it seemed like i didnt.. i knew there would be stability problems if the honeycomb was taken out or drilled out without cutting anything under the scoop but wasnt sure about after it being cut.. that and i was just wondering if anyone had any special info on the subject..
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That was a bad idea man... I know many people that have tried this and it has led to bad results... hacking into your stock hood leads to consiquences. At 60+MPH, that scoop will come right off if its not glued down extremely strong.
The edges where you cut will rust bad.... the rain will make your engine dirtier that shit and could lead to enging/electrical problems if you drive in the rain a lot. etc etc...
Rust where? the hoods are composite? i did mine and removed the whole honeycomb insert. at about 40 mph the scoop would start to lift so i just formed a piece of aluminum barstock to the contour of the scoop, welded another piece to make it a T and drilled and tapped the bottom of the T to use a screw in the stock location that the honeycomb was screwed to and just epoxyed it to the bottom of the scoop. no issues what so ever.
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Well, we got it all done last night, no problems whatsoever so far. We put some kind of epoxy crap on the scoop, and bolted it back on.. Waited... maybe 5 or 10 min and took the car up to 80 with no problems, no movement at all..
Here's some pics if anyone's interested:
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looks good, thats the same thing i done to mine. what did you use the keep the plastic shavings in the honeycomb out of the holes?
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well we just blew it out as we drilled the holes and then on the back i used a certain bit on it. Im really not sure what its called but it was like a sanding/grinding bit that came to a point. I just barely did the back of each hole with that then just went through each one once more with the drill bit and blew it all out with an air hose...
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