[MATT02GT]

5 Link Suspension System - '79-'04 Ford Mustang

[beckerb]

Just my 2 cents. Why would you ever want to beat the heck out of your car and tires going 70 mph around a corner spinning your wheels and hitting your emergency break ?(Time for an I.Q. check) - Indy and Grand Prix formula one racing takes ultimate control - drifting isnt worth what it costs in damage to your car and perhaps yourself. Leave it to the ricers !!!

OK here comes the SH___ Storm I know but think about what you are doing !!!

[03_StangGuy]

Beckerb any kinda of racing is hard on your car, what do you think throwing 500+ hp down in an instant does to a car with the widest stickiest tires you can fit. racing isnt easy on a car nor is it cheap. Id say drifting allows the equalest competition, since mods arent that noticable. Skills will prevail.

[03_StangGuy]

Originally Posted by ModMustang97GT TO ANSWER HIS QUESTION..... The piece that you are looking for is a pahard bar or watts linkage. You are not going to be able to keep the suspension in place laterally with the stock ford rear-end. The 4 link design binds at heavy load and results in wheel hop. There is NOTHING you can do to the 4 link that will fix that. You can ONLY eliminate it with a panhard bar or watts link. You can go to either of the links belowe for a detailed explanation. Maximum Motorsports :: The Leader In Mustang Performance Suspension Griggs Racing Products - Articles - Magazine Articles

How does the watts link affect grip off the line?

[StangAddiction]

Originally Posted by 03_StangGuy Thats where your wrong when you drift in a rearwheel drive car you can controll the slide/amount of drift with the throttle. Thats why you cant drfit a FWD car.

+1...



and wheel hop on IRS and go so far as to crack or rip piece of the rear differential housing.

[MATT02GT]

Show me a racing style that isnt hard on your car. If it breaks, upgrade it with something bigger and better... I abuse the hell outta my car, but its the most well maintaind car Ive seen also. I didnt build it to baby it

[FoxHoss]

Originally Posted by adrenaline=lifeline yea its more ass draging then anything but ur still outa control specially at 110 wen u go into a spin cause u tap break and all 4 rotors lock up cause abs is fucking stupid

actually abs prevents lock up... and thats why i dont like it

[03_StangGuy]

Originally Posted by MATT02GT Show me a racing style that isnt hard on your car. If it breaks, upgrade it with something bigger and better... I abuse the hell outta my car, but its the most well maintaind car Ive seen also. I didnt build it to baby it

Exactly

[WilltheThrill]

its kinda funny to see people here not being able to see how drifting would be a shitload of fun!

its like doing a short powerslide around a corner/intersection, but drifting takes the slide much further and drawn out.

the amount of tire rubber u burn through in a short period of time is pretty rediculous but it looks like SO much fun! ive done several powerslides(who hasnt?) and ive tried to do a drift a couple times but I havent been successful yet.

[WilltheThrill]

Originally Posted by adrenaline=lifeline ....and in a fwd car i pulled off a 110mph......

lol, do u really expect people to believe that?

lets see a vid!

or was this in a video game?

[Novanutcase]

Like Modmustang97 stated, a panhard or watts with some SFC's. I would even go with a torque arm just to get rid of all four links altogether if you are serious about drifting your car.

Might want to check this out!

Drifting Drift Live

Might want to inquire as to what his set up is:

Vaughn Gitten Jr.'s Mustang


Also, keep in mind everyone that a lot of the drift stars of today were competitive rally racers. Rally racing is HARD to do well! I think alot of you straight line racers need to expand your horizons a little and look beyond the 1/4 mile as far as what our cars are capable of.

John

[PowerShiftz02GT]

^^^ that guy is sweet. Youtube him.

YouTube - vaughn gitten jr drift at wall with new motor

YouTube - vaughn gitten jr drift at wall with new motor

[StangAddiction]

Originally Posted by WilltheThrill lol, do u really expect people to believe that? lets see a vid! or was this in a video game?

I wouldn't put anything sideways at 100mph

[ReverendDexter]

Originally Posted by Novanutcase Like Modmustang97 stated, a panhard or watts with some SFC's. I would even go with a torque arm just to get rid of all four links altogether if you are serious about drifting your car. Might want to check this out! Drifting Drift Live Might want to inquire as to what his set up is: Vaughn Gitten Jr.'s Mustang

S197s have a different rear suspension setup that has a panhard bar stock.

Watts link will do absolutely nothing for your traction off the line, good or bad. What a panhard bar/watts link does is laterally locate the rear axle.

It's been said already, but you really need to go to a better rear suspension setup that properly locates the rear axle. You're getting wheel hop because the 4-link setup allows the axle to laterally move 1" either direction (2" of total movement). This is also what causes the snap-oversteer that happens in a Mustang: you go into a corner, the axle floats laterally until it binds, and then that momentum that was being abosorbed in lateral movement of the body relative to the axle is now lateral movement of the body and axle relative to the ground.

There's three choices for a serious rear suspension setup:
*Torque Arm
*5-link
*Cobra IRS

At the very least, get a panhard bar and LCAs. UCAs are a waste of money for anything outside of drag racing.

I need to reiterate that point, because it's a common misconception: aftermarket upper control arms/UCA bushings are a waste of money for anything outside of drag racing.

[MATT02GT]

Originally Posted by PowerShiftz02GT ^^^ that guy is sweet. Youtube him. YouTube - vaughn gitten jr drift at wall with new motor

How is that not just badass???