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wheel hop in the drift
Drifting is something that I have found to be increadably adictive. For those of us who are lucky enough to not have to worry about the rediculous price of the replaceing tires everytime you go to an event, drifting a modestly powered mustang around the twisties is a rush no drug can match. BUT,...I'm getting use to the way the car handles in the drift and my speeds are increasing rapidly. The problem I'm having now at the higher speeds is a slight case of wheel hop. And as anyone who drifts knows, wheel hop at 60 or 70 mph in a deep drift is not a good thing. As a matter of fact it's a very bad thing. What I was wandering is if there is anyone that could recommend some proven suspension producted for this kind of application that would remedy my problem.
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i think thats more of a tire/rim choice then a suspension choice. also a HP thing. the faster you are moving the faster your tires have to be going. at higher speeds your gt might not have the balls to be spinning the tire much and your just sliding more then you are spining know what im geting at? to be drifting at 70 is pretty damn fast for a car set up for the street. your balls are bigger then mine hahaha
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Go with a good set of upper and lower control arms. I think adjustables will be better with drifting.
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you need a good set of adjustable upper and lower control arms, stiff swaybars and weldin sub frame connectors.
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Since you're on the subject, tell me what I'm missing here. I keep seeing all this drifting on tv and hear about it from all these punk ass ricers around Memphis, but I don't see the sport in it. I also think that it's hilarious that all of these ricers want to drift, but they have already talked their parents into buying them a front-wheel-drive car.
Anyway, to get back to the point, What is the deal? You are wanting to do a circular burnout, losing time and speed, to impress a bunch of people that use the word "nos" in every sentence? This shit appears to be the most ridiculous excuse for a sport I've ever seen. Please tell me that I have the wrong impression of all this. BTW: I'm not attacking you, I really want someone to educate me here.
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+1 but if that is what you want to do thats cool, whatever make you a car guy. power and weak suspension is what you are fighting. could go with a hard rubber tire also, no traction and gets very oily when hot.
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I feel your 'anti-rice'/curiousity man. BUT,...I'll the thrill for me is the control of being out of control. To perfect the drift you have to master every aspect of your cars controls. To set up you have to manipulate the brakes, the suspension load, the clutch, and the throttle all at the same time. Once you figure it out, you feel the car like you've never felt it before. A controled, constistant 70 mph slide through a hairy corner, knowing exactly what your car is going to do is something you just can't explain. It's the ultimate feeling of 'moecheesemo' if you know what I'm saying.
-Controling the Drift-,........"MAN LAW"!!
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I apologize for my ignorance and lack of understanding. This is all lost on me. To each his own....
I am banning myself from talking about this subject for a while. I don't think I have anything positive to add. [/b]
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drifting is a great sport/... if i had money i would do it myself... but i dont lol
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I can understand why people think drifting is a stupid sport becuase it kindof is, I can also understand why people don't want idiots pulling the e-brake on a contry road then slamming into them especially ricers.
The way I see it is if you know how to drift you know how to control your car when you lose control so it can be very helpful. Also it is fun as hell to do. To anyone that likes drifting or wants to learn how all power to you. JUST KEEP IF OF THE STREETS. I live in a rainy as hell city so what I do is at like 3 in the morning on rainy days go chill in the biggest empty parking lot I can find and slide around . Personally I think its the best way to learn becasue you can do it at much lower speeds and it dosn't kill your tires as badly. There are also local tracks that have drift days in some areas who may even help you learn. But I do know that feeling when your wheels hop. If its not your car it could be the track.
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Id definately say drifting is a great sport, while it is won from the judges. Its a great spectature sport. Wed all do burnouts if it was illegal and bad for your car, everyone likes em. Drifting is just burnin out around a track and they do get movin pretty quickly. Theres videos all over youtube, look up "formula D".
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Im not a fan of drifting....
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. w our cars weight id think ud need more hp too
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I think drifting takes alot more skill than most give credit for. Its controling your car at its limits, and Im sure its alot more of a rush than going straight, hell autocrossing is. But I do love the straight line too. As far as the wheelhop, do like said above.... get some good upper/lower control arms, subframe connectors and some sway bars and you should be good.
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There is something in the rear end of the car that you can snap during wheel hop. I can not recall what it is. it might be the axle but im not sure. If someone knows what im talking about please elaborate. I know the mustang is known to break this part during wheel hop.
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Thats where your wrong when you drift in a rearwheel drive car you can controll the slide/amount of drift with the throttle. Thats why you cant drfit a FWD car.
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TO ANSWER HIS QUESTION.....
The piece that you are looking for is a pahard bar or watts linkage. You are not going to be able to keep the suspension in place laterally with the stock ford rear-end. The 4 link design binds at heavy load and results in wheel hop. There is NOTHING you can do to the 4 link that will fix that. You can ONLY eliminate it with a panhard bar or watts link. You can go to either of the links belowe for a detailed explanation. Maximum Motorsports :: The Leader In Mustang Performance Suspension Griggs Racing Products - Articles - Magazine Articles
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yea but if my v8 dont shutup the ricers that does
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