[DeMello]

so i could finish up bolt ons and not need another tune untill i do heads and cams?

and im trying to get a hold on nissan rite now

think they can do a decnet tune? olny dyno around....

[product1620]

You don't need a tune for bolt ons, it might benifit you if you throw on some long tubes, but until you get into somthing major you wont need another tune.

[zinc02GT]

Demello, internal engine parts are NOT cheap. The labor is what will east your ass up if you can;t do it yourself and even if you can some of it HAS to be done professionally. Like balancing the motor...

Building a motor RIGHT is alot harder than just saying "oh, I want forged rods, forged crank, forged pistons etc." Theres alot of skill, finesse, and work to it.

Wokring on internal motors and transmissions to me are the hardest parts about working on a car. Period. Every thing else can be considered maintenance if you ask me...

You do not need a tune for an aluminum driveshaft, UDP's, or aluminum flywheel. Those are all drivetrain related and cannot be tuned ofr because it isnt PCM related like timing and shit.

You need to watch out when running nitrous. It is probably one of the easist ways to blow a motor if someone without half a brain is operating it.

Try to be a hot rod one time while your not thinking and hit the nitrous at 2500rpms and see what happens. Just ask Hill on here. Puddled in the intake and blew the motor to peices. What if that happens Demello? Youre fucked because now your without a car, without a motor, and no money...

[96GTRagTop]

in other words..... the chances of Demelloing urself is like 20 fold

[zinc02GT]

Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop in other words..... the chances of Demelloing urself is like 20 fold

Basically...

You better be careful with that shit Jesse...

Im not even kidding. Using it EVERYDAY is gonna fry your shit up and blow somehting. Your taking a chance everytime you engage it.

[SWEET2KSTANG]

i spray at 2100, no issues. doing your own tuning with a handheld is not a big deal if you know what you are doing, reading, and looking for. a dyno tune is not nesseccary with nitrous, just a good idea if you are running a 100+ shot. if tuning with a hand held were bad, i would of blew my peice of shit mustang a long time ago. i push my car to its limits more and harder than anyone else i can think of on here. everyone on here is scared of nitrous, doing your own tuning, etc. when you start pushing the car to its limits, a dyno tune is absolutely needed. but just setting something up for a little extra, its not something to loose sleep over.

[96GTRagTop]

Originally Posted by zinc02GT Basically... You better be careful with that shit Jesse... Im not even kidding. Using it EVERYDAY is gonna fry your shit up and blow somehting. Your taking a chance everytime you engage it.

heres an old thread of either 04gtampa's or acmillers heads after they took apart the motor after they sprayed the shit out of it..... i beleive it was tampa's car....

if u could have seen the pics dude, it was disastorous.... if u ever get in touch with AC again ask him to show u picks of what spray does to a 2v

[zinc02GT]

Originally Posted by SWEET2KSTANG i spray at 2100, no issues. doing your own tuning with a handheld is not a big deal if you know what you are doing, reading, and looking for. a dyno tune is not nesseccary with nitrous, just a good idea if you are running a 100+ shot. if tuning with a hand held were bad, i would of blew my peice of shit mustang a long time ago. i push my car to its limits more and harder than anyone else i can think of on here. everyone on here is scared of nitrous, doing your own tuning, etc. when you start pushing the car to its limits, a dyno tune is absolutely needed. but just setting something up for a little extra, its not something to loose sleep over.

but this goes to the entire "doc LOVES his Mach and his shit keeps breaking and I HATE my POS mustang and it never seems to break on me. I love GM"

I had to add the last sentence for ya.

But dude (Jesse i hate to say this about ya) but your not the sharpest tool in the shed. Im just saying do you homework and study it man. Know what happens every every RPM when spraying, know the consequences, know the procedures, etc

[96GTRagTop]

the eclipse in the first fast and the furious move right when walker fried the moitor comes to mind

[zinc02GT]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...he_Furious.JPG

^ the only good part about tf&tf

[96GTRagTop]

Originally Posted by zinc02GT http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...he_Furious.JPG ^ the only good part about tf&tf

what r u talking about....

michelle rodriguez fool

[SWEET2KSTANG]

i am also NOT saying everyone can go out and do it. i am set up to do what i do and know what i am doing, and how to set mine up. all i have to do is change 1 or 2 prameters and my motor wont last long. it does take knowledge and common sense to run and tune with power adders. there aer consequences to pay if you dont do it right.

[96GTRagTop]

Originally Posted by SWEET2KSTANG i am also NOT saying everyone can go out and do it. i am set up to do what i do and know what i am doing, and how to set mine up. all i have to do is change 1 or 2 prameters and my motor wont last long. it does take knowledge and common sense to run and tune with power adders. there aer consequences to pay if you dont do it right.

well said

[zinc02GT]

+1 very well said.

You basically said what I had been trying to say this entire time really...

[bwoody1713]

Originally Posted by zinc02GT http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...he_Furious.JPG ^ the only good part about tf&tf

Blasphemous lies!

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k2...urious_024.jpg


The other good part about tf&f...Sexy explosions :-) I like to think that when my piece of crap mustang finally does explode it will go something like that...Unfortunately just because that's what I want it to do that means it's probably just gonna shoot a small puff of smoke and collapse...

[DeMello]

hearing more of your guys input has made me a little more nervous so im going to dish out the extra cash for a PLX wideband from tricktuners

i am then going to get some dyno pulls in and email the info to joe at tricktuners who is going to set me up with a custum tune

the tune will be for a 125 shot seeing as i know evenutally im going to need it agasint somebody but when im not going to have the 125 shot hooked up unless i know i need it (which wont happen much since i have yet to lose a race on the streets in 9 monhts besides to a vette)

now it will pretty much be a dyno tune and i was wondeirng does a 125 shot mean i need to upgrade my pump? and if i do upgrade my pump do i still need a FPSS? (im guessing i do)


antoher thing is that places always charge for 3 dyno pulls....Why? like cant i just ask to get one pull in to get joe better info and he can do a better tune?

the only dyno around here is nissan and they charge 99.99 for 3 pull 2wd and like 150 for awd which is pretty expessive IMO

now of course i never planned on getting a wideband or anything like that which is why i know have shit for sale in my sig (as in i definitly dont have an extra 300 bucks lol)

[DeMello]

Originally Posted by zinc02GT Try to be a hot rod one time while your not thinking and hit the nitrous at 2500rpms and see what happens. Just ask Hill on here. Puddled in the intake and blew the motor to peices. What if that happens Demello? Youre fucked because now your without a car, without a motor, and no money...

well my window swicth is going to be set from 3500-5800 so that woulndt happen...

and if your talking about the kid whos dad has a gt 500 he didnt blow his engine. just his intake manifold which i know could get fucked up but its olny 192$ on american muscle

[20gtvert03]

I have a small question to add if you dont mind DeMello. If your about to upgrade your heads, couldnt you easily put some new rods in while the heads are off?

[Fa5tCo]

To the OP. This is simple

Buy a tuner
Install Nitrous kit
Take the car with tuner and installed nitrous kit to a PROFESSIONAL to get tuned.
Go to track and enjoy.
Save your money for rebuild just in case it blows.

If you feel like you cant do ALL of the above do not bother.

[DeMello]

Originally Posted by Fa5tCo To the OP. This is simple Buy a tuner Install Nitrous kit Take the car with tuner and installed nitrous kit to a PROFESSIONAL to get tuned. Go to track and enjoy. Save your money for rebuild just in case it blows. If you feel like you cant do ALL of the above do not bother.

joe is a professional