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Old September 15th, 2008, 12:15 AM   #1
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Vortech vs Kenne Bell: NOT Your Typical Question


I have a 2001 Bullitt, and I've always wanted a Kenne Bell for the instant boost. I want that low torque, that seat of pants feel! Besides, that whine is pure sex.

Anyway, recently I got to thinking again, a little more this time, that I don't wanna lose my intake. I like drag racing, but I plan on building the car for track, but I won't be there all the time, just once in a while. I'll mainly be driving the car in the street. What should I do? I know if I get the Kenne Bell I can sell the intake, but I plan on holding onto it JUST incase anything ever happens. I heard with the Vortech though that the intake is so good, I should be making an extra 15-30 HP over a stock GT with a Vortech. Thoughts and opinions?
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Old September 15th, 2008, 12:19 AM   #2
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Buy the Kenne Bell and sell me the intake.

I do remember hearing about someone once that put a centri on the car then swapped teh pulley out for one that would make like 15 psi then put a waste gate in like on a turbo and capped it back down at stock vortech levels...So he had a centri that spooled up crazy fast and all he had to do was adjust the wastegate for more power...Might be worth a thought.
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I'll buy your intake if you go with the kb. Personally I like the sound of the KB, and if it wasn't going to cost me that much more I would get one. Mad tq and you would still be a bit faster vs n/a.
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Buy the Kenne Bell and sell me the intake.

I do remember hearing about someone once that put a centri on the car then swapped teh pulley out for one that would make like 15 psi then put a waste gate in like on a turbo and capped it back down at stock vortech levels...So he had a centri that spooled up crazy fast and all he had to do was adjust the wastegate for more power...Might be worth a thought.
That was in a MM&FF article if I remember right and they did it on a fox body. They put a 20# pulley on it and dropped the boost down with a wastegate and with a flip of a switch it changed to the 20#'s and race gas tune.

I had a Vortech SQ on mine and loved it. It made 394 hp 397 tq @ 9lbs right at red line. If you want that low end torque and instant power than steer away from the centri.
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That was in a MM&FF article if I remember right and they did it on a fox body. They put a 20# pulley on it and dropped the boost down with a wastegate and with a flip of a switch it changed to the 20#'s and race gas tune.

I had a Vortech SQ on mine and loved it. It made 394 hp 397 tq @ 9lbs right at red line. If you want that low end torque and instant power than steer away from the centri.
I would love to try something like that personally. It sounds awesome, not to mention you get that sweet blowoff sound which makes people look twice, and you get all the same benefits as a twin screw without losing your intake and plenum and dealing with all that heat generated.

As for the centris, if you're already going to be spending 4k on a supercharger, I'd say might as well save up the remaining 2k and put on a turbo kit. More HP and the same kind of curve.
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I rode in a procharged gt once and it was very fast but i enjoyed a roushcharged gt way better and the centri had 80 hp more. KB FTW
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I would get a turbo but I wanna stay smog legal. Besides, a good turbo kit is going to cost you $6,000+.

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i don't think you'd have to worry about emissions. my car passes a week ago with my setup and i didn't even get questioned about anything. the wastegate idea looks pretty cool, i could do something like swap in a 12psi pulley and blowoff excess air to maintain 8-10 psi up high and it should give me a good torque increase too. has anyone here done a wastegate?
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Yeah, but don't you have ProCharger? The only turbo system I know of that has a CARB sticker is STS, but to my knowledge, they only make turbo systems for S197 Mustangs.
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yes i have a procharger. i think the reason the sts one has teh carb thing is because you have to remove the cats with the kit. if you run cats it should pass
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STS is a remote-mounting turbo system, so the turbo goes in place of the muffler instead of the engine bay. You then route the turbo to the intake, and go from there. They have universal kits for New Edge Mustangs, it would pass smog, but there's still no CARB number.
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Get rid of your CAI and get a Kenne Bell. If you have anything go wrong as you said. You will have bigger issues than changing your CAI will fix. Namely blown engine type things. And the chances your Kenne Bell would be broken or unusable is next to nothing. But like I said, if it did. It would mean catastrophic failure and you'd be out an engine not a simple part. Plus, in the event your engine does blow. Your Kennebell is still worth somethig, where your CAI is like a toy compared to the other stuff you will be working with at that point.
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Hes talking about the manifold. The bullits have an awesome intake setup that is worth a lot. the only thing above a stock gt that is better, but it costs like over a grand or something.

You kinda need a CAI with a blower, KB says its stupid and warranty void if not. The air would be so hot it would be ridiculous.
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I would go with a centri...

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buy the kenne bell, God bless the torqu

a turbo it´s a good idea, but, as you know it´s more expensive
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The problem with the wastegate setup on a pullied centri is that the air temps will still be smoking hot, like its pullied for the high psi all the time. (way less efficient). You could make more power by running the larger pulley on the street and swapping pullies (yeah its a PITA on a centri for sure). Just go with the KB. They are harder to launch, but way more fun to drive on the street.
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Low end torque on the street FTW!
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With the bullitt i would go centri all day...

Seriously you dont want to lose the intake...

It was not easy getting the one I have...

The intake is part of the draw of the bullitt...If you want to put a KB on a 2V put it on a GT...Keep the intake and go with a Novi...
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Originally Posted by ChrisJ View Post
With the bullitt i would go centri all day...

Seriously you dont want to lose the intake...

It was not easy getting the one I have...

The intake is part of the draw of the bullitt...If you want to put a KB on a 2V put it on a GT...Keep the intake and go with a Novi...
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