[Naytoo]

I am trying to see if it would be cheaper for me to do a complete swamp in my 99 gt... For obvious reasons I rather Have the Cobra 4v....
Or would it cost less to get an 04 Cobra?

Any information on the necessary swamp components would be great aside from the obvious.. Such as: Motor, computer, mounts.....


I was thinking of building my 2v for a turbo kit.. But decided I still wouldn't get the numbers I'd like...

[texasd18e]

basically its not going to be $30k to do a motor swap. it would cost less to swap for a new gt500 crate motor than it would to be a terminator plus you get more hp. but of course thats the extreme version of a motor swap.

[Exodus]

I guess I dont understand why you wouldnt get the hp number from your 2v with a turbo. Who said you have to stop at one, in short, biuld the motor ground up and go with twins. Thats advertised at having the potential to be just shy of 1000hp. How much more do you want?

[Doc8224]

It would cost less out of pocket cash to trade for the cobra but you will be finacing the power. If you are planning a good motor swap plan on 3-6k or more for a termi swap

[mpboy]

would you be doing the work your self? have you ever got into motor work? its not rocket science, but it can be time consuming and extremly frustrating. i have beat the shit out of a 55 gallon drum with a ball bat because i got mad at a car lol. and if you do.. never ever ever ever work on your car pissed off, u will break something

[Naytoo]

Well, The whole matter is I plan on putting the car in the garage in a month and pulling the motor. This way if I work on the 2v It'll be all ready, in the garage... I do like the twin turbo setup, but I am unsure of durability... I know that with the 4v there is more that can break... But you also start with a bit more base HP...

I mean I knows it's cheaper to do a swap... Also my car only has 80k on it but I need to replace the timing components... As they are still stupid plastic.. and I get a tapping here and there... Could be a lash adjuster but after all the time I've spent trying not to tear it apart just yet... It seems to me to be more like the timing chain slapping.. All I want is a good 650-675 rwhp.. This will be a weekend car or a really nice day car.... But something that'll also do good at the strip. And id I needed it to DD for a month... Then knowing that with Turbos it'll be alright...

[RC00GT]

dude, with the market now u prob wont get shit for a GT. Trying to trade might leave u in a shitload of loan left to pay off. its not worth it the way things are today. either wait a while n trade, or build the 2v now, boost, n be on your way.

Or if you have the money and can blow it like that, trade the GT for a cobra n pay it off. but you saying the cobra has a little more base power really dosent mean anything when you can bolt a turbo and have more HP than the cobra.

and 650-675rwhp is, hate to say it, crazy talk. i know people with 450rwhp who cant keep the car on the ground most of the time. im not saying that that kind of power wouldnt be insane, but your talking 800hp on a motor, gonna cost alot for rebuilds.

[ModMustang97GT]

800hp will not require lots of rebuilds if it is initially built for it. There are plenty of people with 800hp cars that drive them all the time. How do you think ford GT's and exotics survive. They are built for the aplication. If you build your engine carefully and correctly with all the right parts. The engine will last as long as any other. As for people not keeping their 450 whp on the road. That is a driver issue, not a car issue. A turbo doesn't kick in till over 3grand anyway, so you won't need to worry about it in normal driving. The torque is what makes a car undrivable anways, and on a turbo it doesn't come on untill 3500 rpm just like the HP. Also, with a good set of tires it will work just fine. If you drive it like a dumb ass and try to drive to school on normal street tires in a heavy rain or in the snow, you could be asking for trouble. Orcourse, you can get out of control in our car stock in those conditions. Ultimately it comes down to the set up you have and how stupid you are. A well built car and intelligent driver can drive an 800hp car all day every day with few exceptions, without an issue. Just don't be a hot dog, with shit tires, in the rain.

[DeMello]

get an mmr 900 block for like 2500 bucks.

get ported and polsihed heads with some stage 2 cams.

get a built tranny from mmr or get your stocker built at a local shop

do your fuel componets and at least control arms with Drag radials

then slap the power adder of chocie on and get a dyno tune

[Naytoo]

650 isn't Crazy talk... Anyone have the New Nittos? I am looking at a set of 18's by 10 or 10.5 on the rear and 18/9 on the front... Also.. I plan to build the whole motor... I don't plan on keeping parts that are going to fail... Then again even new parts can fail..

[BLK2KGT]

Originally Posted by Naytoo Well, The whole matter is I plan on putting the car in the garage in a month and pulling the motor. This way if I work on the 2v It'll be all ready, in the garage... I do like the twin turbo setup, but I am unsure of durability... I know that with the 4v there is more that can break... But you also start with a bit more base HP... I mean I knows it's cheaper to do a swap... Also my car only has 80k on it but I need to replace the timing components... As they are still stupid plastic.. and I get a tapping here and there... Could be a lash adjuster but after all the time I've spent trying not to tear it apart just yet... It seems to me to be more like the timing chain slapping.. All I want is a good 650-675 rwhp.. This will be a weekend car or a really nice day car.... But something that'll also do good at the strip. And id I needed it to DD for a month... Then knowing that with Turbos it'll be alright...

Dude it won't take you a month to do those timing chains, I did mine In like two weekends. Don't let that chain slap get to bad or you'll end up like me havein to replace you oil pump too. But if you stricktly lookin for somthin else, go w/ a forged bottom end w/ Blowzilla KB, then you'll be happy.

[Exodus]

I guess my opinion on the whole matter is to biuld that 2v. With an intial cost of say 6k to just get a 4v, its actually a little more cost effective to get the hp in a 2v. With a stock termi motor, you'll get 400ish hp, not mention 6k spent to do it. For that 6k, you could put the bottom end and possibly some high flow heads to go with them. Now you have basically a level playing field hp wise to a stock termi motor with one small plus, its brand new. If turbos is your fancy, your ready biult with the forged 2v, the termi motor is going to take a little more work I think. I havent seen a termi motor with turbos behind a supercharger, but I think it could be done. A little redundent, but possible none the less. This is just my opinion, but in this day and age it would be really hard to biuld up a 4v unless I already had one.

[Naytoo]

Originally Posted by BLK2KGT Dude it won't take you a month to do those timing chains, I did mine In like two weekends. Don't let that chain slap get to bad or you'll end up like me havein to replace you oil pump too. But if you stricktly lookin for somthin else, go w/ a forged bottom end w/ Blowzilla KB, then you'll be happy.

I didn't say that it'd take a month, I said in a month I am going to pull my motor out completely...