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Discussing Tuning in the 99-04 Forum. I have a couple of questions concerning tuners that i couldnt find using the answers ... Modded Mustangs is the premier Ford Mustang Forum on the internet. We discuss all aspects of the Ford Mustang on the forum. Registered Users do not see the above ads. Please Register - It's Free! |
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Tuning
I have a couple of questions concerning tuners that i couldnt find using the answers to using the search tool
1. if i buy an sct tuner and change my shift points to redline, will it stay like that until i reset it/turn it off, or can i just hit a button and put it back to normal and only use it when i want to? 2. will a tuner fix everything that changes if i buy 4.10 gears? 3. Will a tuner actually hurt my transmission at all? any help is appreciated |
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raising your shit points wouln't help you on a stock motor. firming up the shift points will help but a shift kit is amuch better mod & yes a tuner will take care of the gear swap adjustments.
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alright thanks guys, i just thoguht it would be really cool if i could pull up to a stop light and change the shift points to redline and own some ricer and then just put it back a couple seconds later. I heard chips can do something like that, is that true?
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Yea they can. Check out some posts made by HMUSN. He did it in his fox. He has a knob that he can switch tunes on the fly. With a hand held, you cant do that. But, you can change the settings any time you want to. Also, I would say PM JASonic. He bought the SCT and played with it for a while. He will be able to tell you more about what you may want to do in your auto.
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get the tuner it will help out alot
check this out don't know what year but they are the same but some brands of tuners and years of car are diff stuff u can do Hypertech 42000 - Hypertech Max Energy Power Programmers - summitracing.com |
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^ they have all years and types if yours is a cobra or any other
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oh get the one that have the most stuff u can use u will see great performance
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That would be sweet to do that with a chip, but the sct livewire is so freaking cool! Hm...Im stuck..any other opinions?
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you could always get a diablo. But if you plan on doing alot of mods in the future its best to just the handheld unit that your local tuners use to make things easier later on
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Why would you want to change the shift points? A tune can be made to set the shift points for a given throttle position. So WOT will be optimal for ETs and regular throttle position will be optimal for gas mileage. Or you can have it any way you like it. I could make it slam gears at low throttle if you like to be jerked around, or make it like stock at low throttle, and firm at WOT.
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oh...i just firgured redline shifts everytime would be more power...i didn't know it was that complicatd. I guess I'll just save up for the sct livewire then. after I buy my hpipe...and my gears...and my tb and plenum...and catback...dang I just now realized how expensive thats going to be
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Raising your shift points does not produce more power, per se.
What it does, is enable you to hit the fat part of the engine's power band after a power shifting. If, say, your redline is 5400, you will power shift at roughly 5200 rpm. In this scenario, after the clutch re-engages, your rpm's will be back down at approximately 4800 rpm. Under where the engine's maximum horsepower is produced. Now, if you were to rais the engine's rev limit to 5700, you can hit the fat part of that power band after the power shift. You won't be constantly taking the engine up to 5700, as there is no more power produced up there, and in fact, on your stock 4.6, the hp has already fallen off. But what you can do now, is slam your power shift at 55 or 5600 instead of 5200. Now, when the clutch re-engages, you will be smack dab in the midle of the engine's peak hp.
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ahhhhhh gotcha, I also think that having different shift points at WOT would be just as good as well, and the tuner will change the shift points to the maximum hp right? Well like I said, I just have to save up now. Oh yea and I saw that American muscle has free tunes for LIFE! Would American muscle be better or worse than trick tuners?
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It's been my experience that the best tuners on this site are Trick Tuners, Bamachips, and Brenspeed. I don't know anything at all about AM's tunes, so I can't tell you if they are any good or not.
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o.k. thanks unzippee, and one last question, is it true that you have to get a higher octane fuel when you get a tuner?
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you can tune the car for a higher octane. what i mean is that you can add timing, but in order to prevent detonation, you need to run higher octane fuel. if you leave the timing alone, you can still run regular unleaded. i'm tuned for 93 octane...
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What exactly do you mean by timing? like crankshaft or cam timing? cuz I really don't want to upgrade my fuel with gas being the way it is... and me having a v8. Or is it really worth it?
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Cam timing. As in at what point in the cycle the ignition fires off the spark to ignite the air/fuel mixture.
With the type of tunes we are talking about here, typically a couple of different 91 octane tunes, such as a torque tune, which adds power to the lower half of the power band, and a performance tune, which adds power to the upper half of the power band, we are not talking about a huge change in timing. And keep in mind that while you will have to spring for the higher grade fuel, you also typically pick up one or two mpg also. The extra power, particularly with the torque tune, actually makes it easier for the engine to get and keep the car rolling. So during normal driving conditions, you can actually see slightly better mpg. So the extra cost of the 91 is offset by the increased efficiency. A cold air intake will also have the same effect, as would a steeper gear out back.
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So if I do buy a tuner what octane fuel would you recommend? and also, I had heard that cai's were overated and that the same basic result could be obtained by just swapping out your air filter with a C&N (which I have) is that true?
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