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Old October 2nd, 2008, 11:35 PM   #1
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What if the timings off?


will it keep the motor from firing? doesn't make sense to me but i've tried everthing else except for checking the timing.
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PATs issue?
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still no fire? maybe computers locked or fried?
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i blame the typhoon intake lol
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 11:39 PM   #5
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ford told me that pats wouldn't even allow the motor to crank.
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have u checked all fuel componants?
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how do i check the ecu? it excepts the predator and completes the programming.
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 11:41 PM   #8
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yeah fuel shoots out of the schrader valve.
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Pats would have the theft light blinking when cranking it.


Do you have compression? The car would not have compression if the timing chain is off... check spark?
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Pat's will let the motor crank. It just wouldn't fire and turn over. It did it to me. When it first started to act up it did, but then 20 min later it locked up completly. So tell that mech he needs to read up lol.

It could be a pat's issue still cause i had to replace my key cylinder and pat's locked me out for 2 days, shut the car completly down, still dont know how it fixed itself
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 11:46 PM   #11
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theft light definately blinks when its cranking. so how do i fix it?
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yep its a pats issue... you can have it disabled in the tune if needed, but you got to figure out why it stopped working...
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i swapped motors got it all together and it wouldnt start. so i didnt know that the tuner had a pats turn off option.
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Originally Posted by texasd18e View Post
ford told me that pats wouldn't even allow the motor to crank.
with pats the motor will crank but wont fire. an easy way to see is if the theft light blinks rapidly while the car is cranking
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Originally Posted by texasd18e View Post
i swapped motors got it all together and it wouldnt start. so i didnt know that the tuner had a pats turn off option.
did you change computers too? if you did then you need the key with that ecu. if not the key probably just lost program. they do that now and then. when i worked at ford there was at least one vehicle a week that came in like that.
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no same computer. can i actually turn pats off with my tuner?
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is it a handheld? if it is then yes, you cant do it yourself you would have to bring it to someone that can write tunes for that hand held and they can do it.
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Old October 3rd, 2008, 12:06 AM   #18
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yeah its handheld. so i guess i can dyno while im there
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