best /cheap traction mods

spike spiegel · October 8th, 2008, 07:16 PM

i finnally launched my car with the 390's,and i cant get traction at all,I even peel out in 2nd gear,after ive hooked in first grear,and this is after ive heated up my tires,my street tires have alot of tread left ,so im not ready to get street dr's,so what are the best/cheap suspension mods i can get,I was going to get a tuner but whats the point if my car cant hook,

All the mustang guys around here launch with there TC on then take it off when they hit second,I havent tryed it but they say it works real good,wouldnt that bogg ur car down

ajm · October 8th, 2008, 07:27 PM

Correct about the traction control chances are its gonna screw you it will sense that the wheels are spinning too fast or 1 wheel is spinning too fast vs the other. It will then make adjustments to your engine to compensate for the problem it reads meaning lowering your rpm and applying the brakes to both or the needed side. As for the mods ill leave that up to everyone else. Im not going to say "GET THIS" or "GET THAT" to have you get something youre disappointed with. In my opinion go with what you think is best. Not everyone else.

spike spiegel · October 8th, 2008, 07:35 PM

In my opinion go with what you think is best. Not everyone else.[/QUOTE]

i dont no what to get thats my problem,i bought my firebird with a bunch of suspension mods already on it,so i never really had a problem hooking with that car,

As far as the TC,when ever i complain about traction the mustang guys i know just tell me to hit the magic button when i launch,i never tryed it,

Trick Tuners · October 8th, 2008, 07:35 PM

I would never use TC for anything performance related. Thats only for old women who don't know how to drive a mustang in the rain. Maybe try shocking the tires less with a low rpm dump/ slip.

gray8188 · October 8th, 2008, 07:42 PM

you could lower the tire pressure im not to sure how much this helps with street tires if at all.. but then you have things like upper and lower control arms, and i think there are launch springs that might help aswell..

ajm · October 8th, 2008, 07:46 PM

Heres my opinion...Not telling you what to do as you said in the first post this is just what id do. Tell them to shuv their "little magic button" leave the TC off. What I explained in the first post is how traction control works. Tires spin to fast, computer makes adjustments to compensate for tires spinning too fast, those adjustments are 1. bog down engine 2. apply brakes to both or the side spinning faster. Second if I were to build up my rear suspension id go buy some upper and lower rear control arms which are fairly cheap, some good shocks, and springs. Springs being last and control arms & shocks being bought at same time.

FoxHoss · October 8th, 2008, 07:52 PM

my advise is free... dont lace into it so hard, just get as heavy into the pedal as you can before it breaks loose. you have to find that happy medium where you are on the verge of spinning but just grabin pavement

ajm... does TC actually apply the brakes as well?? im assuming through the ABS system

neverfastenough1 · October 8th, 2008, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by FoxHoss

my advise is free... dont lace into it so hard, just get as heavy into the pedal as you can before it breaks loose. you have to find that happy medium where you are on the verge of spinning but just grabin pavement

ajm... does TC actually apply the brakes as well?? im assuming through the ABS system

Does not apply the brakes, but it uses the abs sensors to determine wether the tires are spinning. Also, you have to hit the "magic" button to turn it off because it is on automatically when you start the car.

01gtMustang132 · October 8th, 2008, 08:12 PM

Unhook the front sway bar when you go to the track...
I've seen people gain 2 to 3 tenths...
And it pops the noise in the air to put weight on the rear...
A friend of mine had the sway bar hooked up and was spinning...
Then unhooked it and broke the axle...
So be careful if you have stock axles...

1979rs/z28 · October 8th, 2008, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by 01gtMustang132

Unhook the front sway bar when you go to the track...
I've seen people gain 2 to 3 tenths...
And it pops the noise in the air to put weight on the rear...
A friend of mine had the sway bar hooked up and was spinning...
Then unhooked it and broke the axle...
So be careful if you have stock axles...

I ran 13.9 before unhooking mine with a 2.3 60'. Afterwards i went to a 13.6 with a 2.1 60'. May have just slipped the clutch better but it seems to help

the real shocker · October 8th, 2008, 09:23 PM

depending on what you consider "cheap"... the sway bar trick works... but for ~$500 you can get a set of nice control arms and subframe connectors and it would help tremendously

Cricket · October 8th, 2008, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by spike spiegel

i finnally launched my car with the 390's,and i cant get traction at all,I even peel out in 2nd gear,after ive hooked in first grear,and this is after ive heated up my tires,my street tires have alot of tread left ,so im not ready to get street dr's,so what are the best/cheap suspension mods i can get,I was going to get a tuner but whats the point if my car cant hook,

All the mustang guys around here launch with there TC on then take it off when they hit second,I havent tryed it but they say it works real good,wouldnt that bogg ur car down

If you have street tires your not goin to hook well as it is, and I hope your not doing a burnout to heat them up. That makes them more slick.

jaxdawg · October 8th, 2008, 10:21 PM

would subframe conectors help his problem? or are they more for body roll in corners?

00gtCoolGuy · October 8th, 2008, 10:49 PM

just get some tires for track use only...

nothing will make a bigger difference than a set of sticky tires

the real shocker · October 9th, 2008, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by jaxdawg

would subframe conectors help his problem? or are they more for body roll in corners?

it will make the weight transfer a little more evenly to the rear and less body roll like you said

neverfastenough1 · October 9th, 2008, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by jaxdawg

would subframe conectors help his problem? or are they more for body roll in corners?

They keep your body from twisting in hard acceleration. Nothing to do with body roll. Your suspension controls body roll. They will help with your launch though.

v606er · October 9th, 2008, 12:41 AM

get tlok.

rwboring · October 9th, 2008, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by neverfastenough1

Does not apply the brakes, but it uses the abs sensors to determine wether the tires are spinning. Also, you have to hit the "magic" button to turn it off because it is on automatically when you start the car.

ive heard that it controls fuel, spark, and the brakes... and ive felt it kick my ass end around before...

sgrcltpunk · October 9th, 2008, 01:50 PM

lower and upper control arms draglaunch springs

neverfastenough1 · October 9th, 2008, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by rwboring

ive heard that it controls fuel, spark, and the brakes... and ive felt it kick my ass end around before...

Sorry, I was talking about at launch it won't apply brakes. It will apply brake if one wheel is spinning faster than the other at higher speeds, and not at WOT. At launch they will be spinning the same, and it will only cut the throttle and spark.

October 8th, 2008, 07:16 PM	#1
spike spiegel Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 581 iTrader: 0 reviews	best /cheap traction mods i finnally launched my car with the 390's,and i cant get traction at all,I even peel out in 2nd gear,after ive hooked in first grear,and this is after ive heated up my tires,my street tires have alot of tread left ,so im not ready to get street dr's,so what are the best/cheap suspension mods i can get,I was going to get a tuner but whats the point if my car cant hook, All the mustang guys around here launch with there TC on then take it off when they hit second,I havent tryed it but they say it works real good,wouldnt that bogg ur car down __________________ [2000 blue mustang gt vert 5spd,stalker bodykit,18'' cobra rims,lowered 2'',light bar,k&N cai,roush side exhaust,x pipe,pp 75mm tb & plenum Pro5.0 3:90 gears,Custom 91 octane SCT tune 2000 red VW jetta,auto stock Topless Mustang Club Member

October 8th, 2008, 07:35 PM	#3
spike spiegel Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 581 iTrader: 0 reviews	In my opinion go with what you think is best. Not everyone else.[/QUOTE] i dont no what to get thats my problem,i bought my firebird with a bunch of suspension mods already on it,so i never really had a problem hooking with that car, As far as the TC,when ever i complain about traction the mustang guys i know just tell me to hit the magic button when i launch,i never tryed it, __________________ [2000 blue mustang gt vert 5spd,stalker bodykit,18'' cobra rims,lowered 2'',light bar,k&N cai,roush side exhaust,x pipe,pp 75mm tb & plenum Pro5.0 3:90 gears,Custom 91 octane SCT tune 2000 red VW jetta,auto stock Topless Mustang Club Member

October 8th, 2008, 07:35 PM	#4
Trick Tuners MM Fanatic KB'd GT Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,471 iTrader: 3 reviews	I would never use TC for anything performance related. Thats only for old women who don't know how to drive a mustang in the rain. Maybe try shocking the tires less with a low rpm dump/ slip. __________________ Check out my forums for stuff on troubleshooting, tuning, etc We teamed up with Socal Performance Racing to bring dyno tuning to San Diego. Be friends with us on FB

October 8th, 2008, 07:42 PM	#5
gray8188 MM Fanatic 2003 mustang gt yr 1965 @ 88mph Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,368 iTrader: 5 reviews	you could lower the tire pressure im not to sure how much this helps with street tires if at all.. but then you have things like upper and lower control arms, and i think there are launch springs that might help aswell.. __________________ i'm pretty sure that when i move into my own place i'm gonna mount an anti aircraft gun on my roof with somebody manning it 24 hours a day. why? because it would be fucking AWESOME.[/quote]

October 8th, 2008, 07:52 PM	#7
FoxHoss Enthusiast 02' GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brooklyn, CT Posts: 902 iTrader: 0 reviews	my advise is free... dont lace into it so hard, just get as heavy into the pedal as you can before it breaks loose. you have to find that happy medium where you are on the verge of spinning but just grabin pavement ajm... does TC actually apply the brakes as well?? im assuming through the ABS system __________________ Nitrous is like a hot girl with an STD... you wanna hit it, but your afraid of the consequences 02' GT ~ Twin Screwed 469hp/493tq

October 8th, 2008, 07:27 PM	#2
ajm Banned Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 7,970 iTrader: 4 reviews	Correct about the traction control chances are its gonna screw you it will sense that the wheels are spinning too fast or 1 wheel is spinning too fast vs the other. It will then make adjustments to your engine to compensate for the problem it reads meaning lowering your rpm and applying the brakes to both or the needed side. As for the mods ill leave that up to everyone else. Im not going to say "GET THIS" or "GET THAT" to have you get something youre disappointed with. In my opinion go with what you think is best. Not everyone else.

October 8th, 2008, 07:46 PM	#6
ajm Banned Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 7,970 iTrader: 4 reviews	Heres my opinion...Not telling you what to do as you said in the first post this is just what id do. Tell them to shuv their "little magic button" leave the TC off. What I explained in the first post is how traction control works. Tires spin to fast, computer makes adjustments to compensate for tires spinning too fast, those adjustments are 1. bog down engine 2. apply brakes to both or the side spinning faster. Second if I were to build up my rear suspension id go buy some upper and lower rear control arms which are fairly cheap, some good shocks, and springs. Springs being last and control arms & shocks being bought at same time.

October 8th, 2008, 08:12 PM	#9
01gtMustang132 Regular 2001 Mustang GT 13.15@101 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 134 iTrader: 0 reviews	Unhook the front sway bar when you go to the track... I've seen people gain 2 to 3 tenths... And it pops the noise in the air to put weight on the rear... A friend of mine had the sway bar hooked up and was spinning... Then unhooked it and broke the axle... So be careful if you have stock axles...

October 8th, 2008, 09:23 PM	#11
the real shocker Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.00 @ 105 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Jackson, MS Posts: 1,820 iTrader: 1 reviews	depending on what you consider "cheap"... the sway bar trick works... but for ~$500 you can get a set of nice control arms and subframe connectors and it would help tremendously __________________

October 8th, 2008, 10:21 PM	#13
jaxdawg Regular 2004 mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Jacksonville FL. Posts: 189 iTrader: 0 reviews	would subframe conectors help his problem? or are they more for body roll in corners? __________________ flowmasters, no cats, 3.73's, sct xcal2, eibach pro kit, CC plates, 75mm TB, plenum, T56 Cobra manual transmission,and last but not least a procharger P1SC. 400hp and 376ft-lbs

October 8th, 2008, 10:49 PM	#14
00gtCoolGuy Enthusiast 2000 Mustang GT 13.67 @ 99.3..5000 ft D.A. Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 693 iTrader: 1 reviews	just get some tires for track use only... nothing will make a bigger difference than a set of sticky tires __________________ 2000 Mustang GT- 4.10's, Hoosier DR's, JLT, 75 mm TB, Plenum, MAC LT's, VRS O/R X-pipe, MAC Catback 13.671 @ 99.11 (1.80 60') 5000+ ft above sea level - in El Paso, TX http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2l4JdEg3hg

October 9th, 2008, 01:50 PM	#19
sgrcltpunk amateur adult film star 1999 gt to infinity and beyond Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: newport news,va Posts: 1,059 iTrader: 0 reviews	lower and upper control arms draglaunch springs __________________ performance headlight fluid, 6 ball muffler bearings, and dual flux capacitors

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