turning traction off

00redgt · October 18th, 2008, 07:32 PM

other than buying a tuner,how can i turn my traction control off,my button doesnt work an i want it off for good but i wont spend money on a tuner just to get it off,any ideals

03gtfirered · October 18th, 2008, 07:38 PM

dealership?

yojoe600 · October 18th, 2008, 09:13 PM

i think there is something that turns it off ive seen it before on like ebay

casper gt · October 18th, 2008, 10:34 PM

take the fuse out.

fox4.6 · October 19th, 2008, 12:15 AM

Unplug it in the trunk.

00redgt · October 19th, 2008, 09:57 PM

i heard that taking the fuse out wouldnt cut it off,an how do u turn it off from the trunk

fox4.6 · October 20th, 2008, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by fox4.6

Unplug it in the trunk.

Never mind, wrong module. My Bad.

Trick Tuners · October 20th, 2008, 01:44 PM

you could probably by a momentary switch at radio shack for a few bucks and rewire it.

cliffyk · October 20th, 2008, 04:45 PM

The OEM switch is a momentary switch, here's the wiring diagram:

It is the pushbutton switch in the center left. Pressing it pulls terminal 9 on the instrument cluster electronics high and the cluster then sends a message to the ABS module (that's the unit with the SCP+ and SCP- inputs). SCP is Serial Communications Protocol.

When the ABS module gets this message it "toggles" the state of the t/c--if it was ON it turns it OFF, and vice versa. The instrument cluster receives an SCP message and turns the LED on (for t/c OFF) and off (for t/c ON).

If not disabled in the tune the default state is ON. There is no way to use another type of switch to make it automatically turn off.

I have read of people that just shorted the switch wires and claimed that worked, however I would be concerned about leaving that input to the cluster permanently pulled high when it was not designed to be so. I am also doubtful of claims that says this works, or that it works consistently. I suppose it might if the startup sequence of all the modules is fixed and the cluster comes up after the ABS module.

I have also seen somewhere of someone that used an electronic circuit using a dual 555 timer IC firing a transistor to pull the cluster input high momentarily sometime after the ignition was turned on. That's a lot of work to do something that you can do with a tuner that you'll be wanting someday anyway...

FoxHoss · October 20th, 2008, 06:41 PM

or you could buy a new switch, wont keep it of forever but youll be able to shut it off

October 18th, 2008, 07:32 PM	#1
00redgt MM Fanatic 2000 mustang gt Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: vansant,va Posts: 4,073 iTrader: 5 reviews	turning traction off other than buying a tuner,how can i turn my traction control off,my button doesnt work an i want it off for good but i wont spend money on a tuner just to get it off,any ideals __________________

October 18th, 2008, 10:34 PM	#4
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October 19th, 2008, 09:57 PM	#6
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October 20th, 2008, 04:45 PM	#9
cliffyk Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Saint Augustine, FL Posts: 1,362 iTrader: 0 reviews	The OEM switch is a momentary switch, here's the wiring diagram: It is the pushbutton switch in the center left. Pressing it pulls terminal 9 on the instrument cluster electronics high and the cluster then sends a message to the ABS module (that's the unit with the SCP+ and SCP- inputs). SCP is Serial Communications Protocol. When the ABS module gets this message it "toggles" the state of the t/c--if it was ON it turns it OFF, and vice versa. The instrument cluster receives an SCP message and turns the LED on (for t/c OFF) and off (for t/c ON). If not disabled in the tune the default state is ON. There is no way to use another type of switch to make it automatically turn off. I have read of people that just shorted the switch wires and claimed that worked, however I would be concerned about leaving that input to the cluster permanently pulled high when it was not designed to be so. I am also doubtful of claims that says this works, or that it works consistently. I suppose it might if the startup sequence of all the modules is fixed and the cluster comes up after the ABS module. I have also seen somewhere of someone that used an electronic circuit using a dual 555 timer IC firing a transistor to pull the cluster input high momentarily sometime after the ignition was turned on. That's a lot of work to do something that you can do with a tuner that you'll be wanting someday anyway... __________________ -cliff knight- My Mustang 2003 GT, UPR X, FRPP 24lb/h injectors, Magnaflow, 180° stat, PP 70mm TB & plenum, Delta Force Commando, Steeda UDPs, Ralco RZ_flywheel, RAM HDX clutch 3.73s, 262 rwHP/305 ft.lb. Flex-fuel: burns gas and rubber...

October 19th, 2008, 12:15 AM	#5
fox4.6 Regular 1993/2000 Mustang GT Yet to be determined Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Celina TN Posts: 59 iTrader: 0 reviews	Unplug it in the trunk.

October 20th, 2008, 06:41 PM	#10
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