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Old October 28th, 2008, 01:30 AM   #61
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Originally Posted by acmillr View Post
Read this thread. It's long, but worth it.

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I actually read all of that and basically concluded it's pointless to have aftermarket heads for a 2v.
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Old October 28th, 2008, 01:00 PM   #63
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Originally Posted by 20gtvert03 View Post
whats your 60 foot?
its a 2 flat on street tires, could be better. I was using 245's though, my 295's are way too heavy especially since they're on my 18'' rims. The 245s are on the 17's

and when i used dr's it was too cold. I was getting 2.2 60's. I even burned em for a full 8 seconds and launched at freakin 1200 and they still spun like mad. it was 38* out tho hahah
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I actually read all of that and basically concluded it's pointless to have aftermarket heads for a 2v.

Ummm, OK. Why don't you let us all in on the facts then.
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I actually read all of that and basically concluded it's pointless to have aftermarket heads for a 2v.
Why?
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Originally Posted by thewayshemoves View Post
I actually read all of that and basically concluded it's pointless to have aftermarket heads for a 2v.
Aftermarket heads are huge. A set of ported heads, that cost 1600+, adds about 20-30 rwhp, and that number just gets larger when you add F/I. A set of aftermarket heads is going to make the same, or better, numbers and most likely will still have room for more porting and therefore more gains. A good set of aftermarket heads could have guys looking at 350 rwhp n/a without having to go as all out as acmillr did. Not to mention with a new set of PI Heads coming in at 700+ from Ford, for an extra 300 you could bump up HP quite a bit, that sounds damned nice for someone whose heads are shot. And even better, those gains aren't going to be just for guys racing at 4500+ rpms, a quality head will pick up gains in HP and TQ all throughout the RPM range helping even your typical DD.
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Not sure, but i'll find out next week at sema and report back.
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I actually read all of that and basically concluded it's pointless to have aftermarket heads for a 2v.
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Gregg you've been teasing us all week now.

You better not let us down.














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Gregg you've been teasing us all week now.

You better not let us down.












Oh BTW, go ahead and put me down for a set.
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I would love a set Gregg... I have a nice little 2V that could be a test bed for us at MM

I just have no money for a set of heads like that
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Originally Posted by bwoody1713 View Post
Aftermarket heads are huge. A set of ported heads, that cost 1600+, adds about 20-30 rwhp, and that number just gets larger when you add F/I. A set of aftermarket heads is going to make the same, or better, numbers and most likely will still have room for more porting and therefore more gains. A good set of aftermarket heads could have guys looking at 350 rwhp n/a without having to go as all out as acmillr did. Not to mention with a new set of PI Heads coming in at 700+ from Ford, for an extra 300 you could bump up HP quite a bit, that sounds damned nice for someone whose heads are shot. And even better, those gains aren't going to be just for guys racing at 4500+ rpms, a quality head will pick up gains in HP and TQ all throughout the RPM range helping even your typical DD.
The part I was more interested in was the price issues. Where it basically said that the cost of developed aftermarkets was basically too expensive when compared to just port and polish. I see the benefit, but personally I can't afford heads like that, and then to port and polish. That's what I was referring to. Pointless for me, maybe not for everyone else, just to clear that up. I think some of you think that way too general as if I was referring to everyone in existence. Personally, a Lamborghini is also pointless because I couldn't put gas in it. Get me?
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I feel it will be hard to make a aftermarket head that out performs a stock ported 2v head. It will cost a fortune to develop, produce, and buy. 900 hp has been made with ported stock 2v heads.
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the heads are the weak link, and some gains can be made with a valve job and some porting, but honestly there are cheaper ways to get hp. 20-30 rwhp for 1600 bucks is not worth it imo. if trickflow can produce a set of stage 2 heads for less than 1000 dollars, i think they would be a huge seller.
I fell it's the tiny bore and the inability to bore it bigger than 20 over.

People are comparing these motors to motors that can be bored and stroked 400+ cubic engines

Show me a 2v v8 that can break 900rwhp hp with 5 liters or less with only one power adder and stock ported heads.

The reason you only see 30 rwhp from stock ported sohc heads is that they already flow pretty good from the factory for a 2v head. I doubt you'll find a stock short compression 5.0 making 350rwhp NA with stock ported heads and stock intake.
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my plan doesnt cover spun bearings and blown trannies
I have been running a stock tranny at 400+ hp for years. They main way you spin a bearing is with low oil. Your will not hurt the car unless you run slicks and I still doubt it.
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I have been running a stock tranny at 400+ hp for years. They main way you spin a bearing is with low oil. Your will not hurt the car unless you run slicks and I still doubt it.
what about over revving (doesnt matter for me b/c i have my limiter set at 5850) i know if you beat the hell out of your limiter the rod bearings will take a shit
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how the hell do I get tickets for sema. I have been trying to find some for the past 6 years. If anyone has some info on next years tickets let me know. I want to go damn it.

as far as heads go, ill wate a few months and see what some of the magazines say about them. you know MM7FF and 5.0mag will get their hands on them asap.
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what about over revving (doesnt matter for me b/c i have my limiter set at 5850) i know if you beat the hell out of your limiter the rod bearings will take a shit
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what about over revving (doesnt matter for me b/c i have my limiter set at 5850) i know if you beat the hell out of your limiter the rod bearings will take a shit
That's not what spins bearings, low oil pressure does. How about just not bouncing it off the rev limiter and shifting before? Why do you have the limiter set so lol. Raise it to 6100 and shift a 5900.

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As far as heads go, ill wate a few months and see what some of the magazines say about them. you know MM7FF and 5.0mag will get their hands on them asap.
I trust mags about as far as I throw a linebacker.
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Hey Greg can you wink if you guys are giving love to more than just the 2V guys?
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