How do I get more Traction?

bbk03gt24 · October 27th, 2008, 08:30 PM

So i sc'd my car about a week ago and it's taken me about that long to figure out that i'm goin to need more traction if plan on not getting my ass kicked from a dig and/or a 1st gear roll.

I've got 18x10" bullitts with Nitto 555s on the rear (285/35s) & they're not doin me a lot of good lol.

I'm not looking to get the equivalent of an AWD takeoff

, but I would like to have at least some grip in first gear.

What can/should i do to get there?

1FUN4RD · October 27th, 2008, 08:31 PM

273 gears!!

ponygrrl · October 27th, 2008, 08:33 PM

Wider rear tires and a stickier tire too (555Rs at least, Mickeys if you wanna get serious).

and/or

Suspension.

00redgt · October 27th, 2008, 08:39 PM

suspension is where its at,an better rear tires..but mostly suspension

RyanGT · October 27th, 2008, 08:39 PM

Get upper and lower control arms. Subframe connectors wouldnt hurt either. And aftermarket rear sway bar or swarr bar. Would make noticeable difference.

But your not going to have traction in first unless you have a slick on at the track. Thats part of the joys of the KB. And learning how to drive it! hehe

yojoe600 · October 27th, 2008, 08:45 PM

dont demello the clutch

ReverendDexter · October 27th, 2008, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by RyanGT

Get upper and lower control arms. Subframe connectors wouldnt hurt either. And aftermarket rear sway bar or swarr bar. Would make noticeable difference.

But your not going to have traction in first unless you have a slick on at the track. Thats part of the joys of the KB. And learning how to drive it! hehe

UCAs are for suckers who don't understand just how bad the stock rear suspension is.

There's two ways to go about this: the cheap way, and the right way. You can guess which one actually works.

The right way involves going to a torque-arm rear suspension. You're talking probably $1500 in parts, plus whatever labor you can't do yourself. If you're a competent welder/fabricator, you can pick up

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mystang0673 · October 27th, 2008, 09:20 PM

so are you saying that the way that guy explains it is crap? i have always wondered about books like that...

TruBluScreamer · October 27th, 2008, 09:22 PM

Definitely MT ET Street Radials FTMFW!!! And ive got 4:10s out back but i dont know how that would work out with your setup

SWEET2KSTANG · October 27th, 2008, 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by ReverendDexter

UCAs are for suckers who don't understand just how bad the stock rear suspension is.

There's two ways to go about this: the cheap way, and the right way. You can guess which one actually works.

there is nothing wrong with replacing the parts that are on the car now. the stock set up isnt the greatest, but does just fine for most people that want a fun street car.

control arms, shocks, and tires are my reccomendations.

DiZzyBonne · October 27th, 2008, 09:55 PM

A torque arm, panhard bar, upper control arm, and lower control arm.

Or:

A watts link, upper control arm, and lower control arm.

I recommend the watts link setup.

FAYS2 Suspension Fox Body Watts Link

From what I know, with a watts link you have to either get a side-exit exhaust, or dump your exhaust, but with FAYS2 watts link setup, you don't have to.

I'm not 100% suspension savvy, so if somebody more knowledgeable than I with suspension can chime in and correct me if and where I'm wrong, please do

.

jivepepper · October 27th, 2008, 09:57 PM

unplug 4 of your coils?

dude496 · October 27th, 2008, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by jivepepper

unplug 4 of your coils?

ah man now you've gone and told everyone the secret to racing the 4.6

atleast they don't know about the timing change for that mod

On topic...looking at your mod list, you havent done any suspension mods...heck just a better set of springs with shocks and struts will be better than where your at right now....also if ya use the search you'll see all sorts of suspension setups out there. Easy free traction mod is removing front sway bar at the track.

jivepepper · October 27th, 2008, 10:04 PM

I would at least go to a 315's since you 10" wide rims.

bostonstangs.com-WHEELS · October 28th, 2008, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by ponygrrl

Wider rear tires and a stickier tire too (555Rs at least, Mickeys if you wanna get serious).

and/or

Suspension.

hit it on the nose
i have hard time hooking on my 555r
get wider and bir side wall tire
then you can air down and hoook and go

Doc8224 · October 28th, 2008, 09:54 AM

definitly suspension. It will be the best bang for the buck to hook up in your situation. also I wouldn't go with the M/T drag radials if you drive it everyday, they hook awesome but suck in the rain.

white_fang · October 28th, 2008, 10:02 AM

sticky tires, upper and lower control arms, wider tires.

TheUNZippee! · October 28th, 2008, 10:04 AM

Everything mentioned, and weight transfer. Move the battery to the trunk. Put some drag shocks on the front and remove the front stabilizer bar to aid in weight transfer.

ModMustang97GT · October 28th, 2008, 11:32 AM

For most people, the New Upper and Lower control arms are plenty. You are just bandaging a problem rather than fixing it. But it costs more to fix it, and you can still hook just fine with new Upper and Lower Control arms. I would recommend before anything else though, get Subframe connectors. They add chassis rigidity that promotes, safety, solid body weight transfer for better launching and turning as well as making the car body stay in allignment long term.

TheUNZippee! · October 28th, 2008, 01:16 PM

Also a great suggestion^

October 27th, 2008, 08:30 PM	#1
bbk03gt24 Regular 2003 Cobra Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 219 iTrader: 1 reviews	How do I get more Traction? So i sc'd my car about a week ago and it's taken me about that long to figure out that i'm goin to need more traction if plan on not getting my ass kicked from a dig and/or a 1st gear roll. I've got 18x10" bullitts with Nitto 555s on the rear (285/35s) & they're not doin me a lot of good lol. I'm not looking to get the equivalent of an AWD takeoff , but I would like to have at least some grip in first gear. What can/should i do to get there? __________________ 2003 Cobra Stock as of now...

October 27th, 2008, 08:31 PM	#2
1FUN4RD MMs Ford Racing Nut Swinger 2007 MUSTANG GT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: CENTRAL IOWA Posts: 4,366 iTrader: 3 reviews	273 gears!! __________________ www.1fun4rd.blogspot.com

October 27th, 2008, 08:33 PM	#3
ponygrrl Enthusiast 2003 Mustang GT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: palm beach gardens, FL Posts: 653 iTrader: 0 reviews	Wider rear tires and a stickier tire too (555Rs at least, Mickeys if you wanna get serious). and/or Suspension. __________________ 03 GT\|boss330 forged shortblock\|steen racing stage 3 heads\|vt stage 2 blower cams\|i/h/e\|detriot trutrac\|moser 31 splines\|125 shot May it R.I.P. New whip: 1953 Ford Mainline Coupe... let the games begin!

October 27th, 2008, 08:39 PM	#4
00redgt MM Fanatic 2000 mustang gt Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: vansant,va Posts: 4,092 iTrader: 5 reviews	suspension is where its at,an better rear tires..but mostly suspension __________________

October 27th, 2008, 08:39 PM	#5
RyanGT MM Fanatic 2000 GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lynnwood, Washington Posts: 4,258 iTrader: 4 reviews	Get upper and lower control arms. Subframe connectors wouldnt hurt either. And aftermarket rear sway bar or swarr bar. Would make noticeable difference. But your not going to have traction in first unless you have a slick on at the track. Thats part of the joys of the KB. And learning how to drive it! hehe __________________ 2000 Black convertible GT: KB 15psi, and other goodies... 1971 Datsun 240 z: Header and rebuilt motor. (The DD)

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mystang0673 MM Fanatic 6.82@100mph 1.45 60' Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,260 iTrader: 0 reviews	so are you saying that the way that guy explains it is crap? i have always wondered about books like that... __________________

October 27th, 2008, 09:22 PM	#9
TruBluScreamer Newbie 2003 GT 13.81@99 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 34 iTrader: 0 reviews	Definitely MT ET Street Radials FTMFW!!! And ive got 4:10s out back but i dont know how that would work out with your setup __________________ A couple of pics and mod list in my garage.....http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-member-18904/

October 27th, 2008, 09:55 PM	#11
DiZzyBonne Enthusiast 2001 Ford Mustang Bullitt Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bay Area Posts: 932 iTrader: 2 reviews	A torque arm, panhard bar, upper control arm, and lower control arm. Or: A watts link, upper control arm, and lower control arm. I recommend the watts link setup. FAYS2 Suspension Fox Body Watts Link From what I know, with a watts link you have to either get a side-exit exhaust, or dump your exhaust, but with FAYS2 watts link setup, you don't have to. I'm not 100% suspension savvy, so if somebody more knowledgeable than I with suspension can chime in and correct me if and where I'm wrong, please do . __________________ Current mods: Maximum Motorsports XL Full Length Subframe Connectors Catted Bassani X-Pipe Borla Stinger Catbacks H&R Super Sport Springs MM Bullitt Crew Founder and Member #1 Last edited by DiZzyBonne; October 27th, 2008 at 10:01 PM.

October 27th, 2008, 09:57 PM	#12
jivepepper I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Under a sombrero Posts: 5,025 iTrader: 1 reviews	unplug 4 of your coils? __________________ 665/541 WHP/WTQ 4.6L SOHC 2V ON 93 OCTANE PUMP GAS. NO METH INJ., NO E85, NO RACE GAS, N2O BABY BOTTLES! TRAP=POWER: 11.01 @135, IN SUMMER HEAT, 1350' TRACK, 315/35/17 DR'S

October 27th, 2008, 10:04 PM	#14
jivepepper I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Under a sombrero Posts: 5,025 iTrader: 1 reviews	I would at least go to a 315's since you 10" wide rims. __________________ 665/541 WHP/WTQ 4.6L SOHC 2V ON 93 OCTANE PUMP GAS. NO METH INJ., NO E85, NO RACE GAS, N2O BABY BOTTLES! TRAP=POWER: 11.01 @135, IN SUMMER HEAT, 1350' TRACK, 315/35/17 DR'S

October 28th, 2008, 09:54 AM	#16
Doc8224 N/A 4v Guru 2003 Mach 1 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 3,463 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 1 reviews	definitly suspension. It will be the best bang for the buck to hook up in your situation. also I wouldn't go with the M/T drag radials if you drive it everyday, they hook awesome but suck in the rain. __________________ Military Crew U.S. Army Aviation Apache's Lead The Way

October 28th, 2008, 10:02 AM	#17
white_fang Banned 1996,mustang around 5's 0-60 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: maybee Posts: 747 iTrader: 0 reviews	sticky tires, upper and lower control arms, wider tires. __________________ bbk cai 8.8 373 dual exuast ported heads bored 30 over forge crank aggressive cam minor shit also [SIZE="4"][COLOR="Red"]crew member #1 that loves mods and administrators[/COLOR][/SIZE]

October 28th, 2008, 11:32 AM	#19
ModMustang97GT Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT Faster than an s4 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,598 iTrader: 0 reviews	For most people, the New Upper and Lower control arms are plenty. You are just bandaging a problem rather than fixing it. But it costs more to fix it, and you can still hook just fine with new Upper and Lower Control arms. I would recommend before anything else though, get Subframe connectors. They add chassis rigidity that promotes, safety, solid body weight transfer for better launching and turning as well as making the car body stay in allignment long term. __________________ Aztec Gold 97GT. MM CC Plates, Panhard Bar, SFC's & Tower Brace Eibach Sway Bars H&R Race Springs/Bilstein Shocks MAC CAI, LT's, Catted H and Pro-Dumps KB Boost-a-Spark 04' PI Motor Author of The Official Suspension Guide

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