[rk_2000_Z/28]

Originally Posted by svtkidd23 the new camaros are ugly... might as well put a evinrude on back of that boat personally id take a gt... over the SS camaro... there fuckin huge

And apparently a VW over a GT....

[03SonicBoom]

Originally Posted by rk_2000_Z/28 And apparently a VW over a GT....

[svtkidd23]

yup !

[kenneth]

Hell I'll run against the Hennessey camaro (worlds fastest 2010) and hand him his ass.

[Mustangshar]

Hell if FIAT buys GM...I'm seriously thinking the new owners may revamp the new Camaro's and yes, there has been recalls but that happens when you have a new model. Plus I think GM tried to rush these babies out as quick as they could.

Have you seen the god awful interiors??? Holy crap man...they suck. Great looking car exterior wise. But according to Car n Driver and there's a thread on here that has the video of their comparisions, they loved Mustang. Tested against the SS

[ia07gt]

Originally Posted by 1slo5.0 The new V6 Camaro will beat up on a 03 GT, that is a fact. I never said anything about a year because the original post was intended to ruffle feathers. Obviously yours are ruffled, and rightfully so because GM has put a car on the market with a V6 that is faster than your Mustang GT and looks good to boot. And if your definition of fast is a 4V Mustang, I'm sorry....

the v6 camaro runs a mid 14 around the same time a good driver does in a stock 99-04

[1slo5.0]

Originally Posted by ia07gt the v6 camaro runs a mid 14 around the same time a good driver does in a stock 99-04

14.21 friday night with only a few passes on the car. I'm sure he will run a 13.9x the next time out. Put the magazines down.

[88-gt-t-top]

I must agree with 1slo5.0 on this one, ford has been in 2nd/3rd place for years now when in competition with chevy... 03cobra< c5 zo6, 03gt < 02SS it's the truth and unfortunately with the release of the c6 zo6, I'm sorry but Ford has to get to the drawing board and fast.... But I will say, atleast Ford isn't in need of a "Bridge Loan" LMAO

[kenneth]

It appears that with average drivers, the almighty Camaro manuals SS are getting 13.5's and the Auto's SS are getting 13.8's.
WOW

[Jakashh]

Originally Posted by AMmuslGT yeah just wait til ford comes out with that 400hp mustang and a twin turbo v6 with 300 hp

*350 hp! Not 300, okay!

[rk_2000_Z/28]

Originally Posted by kenneth Hell I'll run against the Hennessey camaro (worlds fastest 2010) and hand him his ass.

You do know the hennessey package camaro ran an 11.6@120+ right? So unless you haven't updated your times under your avie you probably aren't handing it much. Also, hennessey has a ls9 powered camaro coming out. 700+ hp but with a six figure price tag.

[209STANG]

Originally Posted by 1slo5.0 The new Camaro is a bad ass looking car as is the Challenger. Both will hand a Mustang its ass. Ford needs to step up the program. Its bad when a V6 Camaro can beat up on a Mustang GT....

Imo they both look ugly ass hell and ford doesn't need a 300hp v6 right now nobody is going to buy them with these gas prices and all the people without jobs.hp isn't winning the market right now its low cost and fuel efficency import market I winning right now cheap cars great gas mileage I would say give ford 5 years until they bring out something to run wit the camaros(when the econ gets better) I heard that the 5.0 is coming back on gts

[kenneth]

Originally Posted by rk_2000_Z/28 You do know the hennessey package camaro ran an 11.6@120+ right? So unless you haven't updated your times under your avie you probably aren't handing it much. Also, hennessey has a ls9 powered camaro coming out. 700+ hp but with a six figure price tag.

those are old times in my avie, I just haven't been back to the track since my recent changes.
All I've addind since than was 3.2 pulley showing 9.7 lbs. boost and 60 lb. injectors.

[nuStang]

Originally Posted by Mustangshar Hell if FIAT buys GM...I'm seriously thinking the new owners may revamp the new Camaro's and yes, there has been recalls but that happens when you have a new model. Plus I think GM tried to rush these babies out as quick as they could. Have you seen the god awful interiors??? Holy crap man...they suck. Great looking car exterior wise. But according to Car n Driver and there's a thread on here that has the video of their comparisions, they loved Mustang. Tested against the SS

Are you kidding? Transformers came out in 07!... As far a I am concerned the "new" Camaro is old news, People have been seeing it for at least two years. IMO, GM really messed up. I would like to see the board meeting: "ok guys, I have a great idea. Lets take our only cool car and have it star in a blockbuster movie, but wait until the hype has worn down and ship them to the dealerships when the sequel comes out..."

-and I like the interiors... what do you think about the 2010 mustang interior?

[rk_2000_Z/28]

Originally Posted by kenneth those are old times in my avie, I just haven't been back to the track since my recent changes. All I've addind since than was 3.2 pulley showing 9.7 lbs. boost and 60 lb. injectors.

With the new power you are making and the suspension mods than you should be able to pull one. I'm assuming your 60' times are sub 1.7 and that's where you would kill the Hennessey 550 Camaro. Still though, you might be in for a surprise if you run into one on the highway (which would probably never happen-but still).

I'm not trying to talk shit or take anything away from what you or anyone else on this site has done, so don't get me wrong, and all brand biase and nut hanging aside, Hennessey ran that 11.6@120 with a magnacharger on only 6# of boost, full exhaust with LT headers, dyno tune, and drag radials. That's pretty impressive to me.

Also, Late Model Racecraft just made their Street Stalker Package available to the public. The kit includes a custom cam, bolt-ons, and supporting mods (plugs, wires, etc) and makes 505 to the rear wheels!!! 500+ N/A power with just a bigger cam and supporting mods (stock heads) is very impressive to me.

It's only a matter of time before the aftermarket has a solid axle swap that will shave weight and 60' times and guys start running smaller wheels with bigger rubber. Than the impressive times will start to show up.

[kenneth]

Originally Posted by rk_2000_Z/28 With the new power you are making and the suspension mods than you should be able to pull one. I'm assuming your 60' times are sub 1.7 and that's where you would kill the Hennessey 550 Camaro. Still though, you might be in for a surprise if you run into one on the highway (which would probably never happen-but still). I'm not trying to talk shit or take anything away from what you or anyone else on this site has done, so don't get me wrong, and all brand biase and nut hanging aside, Hennessey ran that 11.6@120 with a magnacharger on only 6# of boost, full exhaust with LT headers, dyno tune, and drag radials. That's pretty impressive to me. Also, Late Model Racecraft just made their Street Stalker Package available to the public. The kit includes a custom cam, bolt-ons, and supporting mods (plugs, wires, etc) and makes 505 to the rear wheels!!! 500+ N/A power with just a bigger cam and supporting mods (stock heads) is very impressive to me. It's only a matter of time before the aftermarket has a solid axle swap that will shave weight and 60' times and guys start running smaller wheels with bigger rubber. Than the impressive times will start to show up.

I agree with what your saying, they are some impressive cars and are responding well to mods.
The biggest thing holding them back IMO is the IRS, while 1.7's are decent 60' times they will need better than that to compete when it comes to FI.

AS far as Hennessey goes with their reputation I would have to see a boost gauge before I believe it was only 6 lbs. boost. sorry but I don't trust them at all.
I believe in a street race MPH would come out on top, I believe I can trap now at 120+ so that would be intresting.

[rk_2000_Z/28]

Originally Posted by kenneth AS far as Hennessey goes with their reputation I would have to see a boost gauge before I believe it was only 6 lbs. boost. sorry but I don't trust them at all.

I know exactly what you meen with Hennessey and I agree.

And after reading your post I found a few different rwhp estimate calculators and the car is actually most likely making about 7# peak to hit that 530rwhp mark, but still that's not bad (I assume that the power of the car with just the exhaust, intak, and tune would be ~360 because that seems to be the average that most people are getting so far)

[07stanggt]

Originally Posted by rk_2000_Z/28 You do know the hennessey package camaro ran an 11.6@120+ right? So unless you haven't updated your times under your avie you probably aren't handing it much. Also, hennessey has a ls9 powered camaro coming out. 700+ hp but with a six figure price tag.

So that means i can hand it its ass.

[07stanggt]

Originally Posted by 88-gt-t-top I must agree with 1slo5.0 on this one, ford has been in 2nd/3rd place for years now when in competition with chevy... 03cobra< c5 zo6, 03gt < 02SS it's the truth and unfortunately with the release of the c6 zo6, I'm sorry but Ford has to get to the drawing board and fast.... But I will say, atleast Ford isn't in need of a "Bridge Loan" LMAO

So lets get this straight, a corvette, which is a awesome car that most of us cant afford or really justify owning, a camaro which runs 13s and financially broke! and somehow you think ford needs to go to the drawing board.

Im thinking you are like GM and put to much stock on niche market.


So gm has a camaro in 2000 that is faster then a mustang and cost more then a mustang. It wasnt selling and loosing money. But it had more HP so that was a winning formula. ford was stupid the mustang has a weak engine, but the mustang was/is always has been profitable and a big seller. Chevy, instead of revamping, realizing the mistake, chaging the camaro to appeal to a larger market and making it more affordable, scraps it............ then spends 3 years talking about bringing it back, its fuck up when it gets here, becuase they were rushed??? the car still cost more then a mustang. And now they are broke.


Sorry guys, GM couldnt have screwed up camaros more if they tried over the course of that cars history. The vette is a awesome car, but its a loss leader and how many loss leaders can you afford. The did do huge imporvements with the GM pick up trucks in the recent decade ill give them that. The tahoe's were nice and the sub's. But they fucked up on cars so bad is criminal.

[rk_2000_Z/28]

Originally Posted by 07stanggt So that means i can hand it its ass.

NO! You have a N/A 3V. You aint doing jack shit.