Honest question from a stang owner

MustangV6Man? · October 10th, 2011, 09:31 PM

I know this is a Ford board, and I have a sixxer mustang myself. But I'm eyeing another car, a Dodge Stealth ES. What kind of speed do these produce stock? I know they're not the RT or whatever but are they in line or better than a sixxer? And if I put dual exhaust on one would it help like it does our cars here?

B's04gt · October 10th, 2011, 09:32 PM

Probably want to ask a dodge forum that..

You'll get more of a detailed and expierenced answer to your questions..

MustangV6Man? · October 10th, 2011, 09:36 PM

Probably, but you guys are smart as hell overall. I bet someone knows.

SlowSix · October 10th, 2011, 09:48 PM

Its faster then your 95 v6 but still slow.
The twin turbo stealth/3000GT are rather unreliable from what I heard.

ewells2420 · October 10th, 2011, 10:09 PM

How the hell should I know.

Loki · October 10th, 2011, 10:40 PM

Those cars are ALL too damn heavy. Lol

zinsavage123 · October 10th, 2011, 10:41 PM

not that much the non turbo'd ones are turds

walt1120 · October 10th, 2011, 10:42 PM

I would shy away from Stealth/3000GT. They turn into money pits real quick...

zinsavage123 · October 10th, 2011, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by walt1120

I would shy away from Stealth/3000GT. They turn into money pits real quick...

he's not lying

MustangV6Man? · October 10th, 2011, 10:53 PM

Hmm I have heard that as well, and yes I know they're heavy and rather slow, but my 95 does have dual exhaust on it and some stuff done, prolly getting a tuner too. I think ill pass on it thanks guys.

zinsavage123 · October 10th, 2011, 10:55 PM

good decision their is a reason you dont see many anymore especially modded ya know.

walt1120 · October 10th, 2011, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by zinsavage123

he's not lying

my buddy has a 3000gt VR4 and probably has dumped almost $5k into it...mostly to repair broken crap.

He had a 3000gt SL (non turbo) before that and i remember that it seemed like every other week there would be something else wrong with the car.

Solar Black · October 11th, 2011, 02:50 AM

Yes, the Mitsu 3000GT VR4 (AKA GTO) do have many problems. Those cars are just plain bad ass when it comes to performance but lacks the reliability. It almost seems like they focused on the idea of what it should have been built but half-assed it when produced. If you have the money you can get rid of all the problems the VR4 has but again...if you have the money.

zinsavage123 · October 11th, 2011, 02:55 AM

fast+cheap=not reliable

VinceS2K · October 11th, 2011, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by walt1120

I would shy away from Stealth/3000GT. They turn into money pits real quick...

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL WE BOTH KNOW WHY. hahahahhaa.

walt1120 · October 12th, 2011, 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by Vince's98

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL WE BOTH KNOW WHY. hahahahhaa.

lol johns basically stock engine rebuild and slightly bigger turbos. In the shop for 4 months and i think his bill is coming up on $6k. just filled with all kinds of fail!

WickedSnake00 · October 13th, 2011, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by walt1120

I would shy away from Stealth/3000GT. They turn into money pits real quick...

True. I was looking at one before I got the stang, and I've got a friend who has one.

Of course he's got an R/T TT and claims he walks Cobras all day with nothing more than an aftermarket intercooler.

But the cars are first and foremost pigs. They're close to 4,000lbs for the AWD versions, down to around 3,600lbs for the FWD, which is still heavier than my 1970 Cutlass that has an iron block 350 in it.

Second, they are plagued by problems, which most notably is the timing belt. If you don't replace it every 50k (or even more often) the timing jumps and your motor just became a paperweight. Why they even used such a crummy rubber timing belt is beyond me. Look at the timing chain in the 4.6. It's a big, heavy double roller chain. That's why the Mitsu V6 blows up at 50k and the 4.6 runs out to 300k no problem.

Plus, even the turbo version is only putting down 310hp IIRC. That's right, less than an NA Mach 1. The NA version is around 250, about 20hp less than a PI mustang, and 300lbs heavier.

So you're starting off with an unreliable, heavy, underpowered car. You can see they can be made to go fast, but anything can do it with enough money. They're kind of a bigger, heavier version of the Eclipse in the sense that they can be decent stock, and can make tons of power with enough money, but they will be one headache after another.

thomasdale2144 · October 23rd, 2011, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by MustangV6Man?

I know this is a Ford board, and I have a sixxer mustang myself. But I'm eyeing another car, a Dodge Stealth ES. What kind of speed do these produce stock? I know they're not the RT or whatever but are they in line or better than a sixxer? And if I put dual exhaust on one would it help like it does our cars here?

hey there, i had a 3000gt vr4 which is the same thing as the stealth R/T TT the TT's are very quick, but the base models are a about the same as our sixxers

and i believe the base model came with a stock dual exhaust, check around because there should be a club in your state. try googling your states name and 3/S

October 10th, 2011, 09:31 PM	#1
MustangV6Man? Enthusiast Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Posts: 664 iTrader: 1 reviews	Honest question from a stang owner I know this is a Ford board, and I have a sixxer mustang myself. But I'm eyeing another car, a Dodge Stealth ES. What kind of speed do these produce stock? I know they're not the RT or whatever but are they in line or better than a sixxer? And if I put dual exhaust on one would it help like it does our cars here?

October 10th, 2011, 09:48 PM	#4
SlowSix Formerly 01silversixer 2001 V6 15.47@89.57 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 3,465 iTrader: 1 reviews	Its faster then your 95 v6 but still slow. The twin turbo stealth/3000GT are rather unreliable from what I heard. __________________ Build Thread

October 10th, 2011, 10:40 PM	#6
Loki Enthusiast 1996 V6 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Connecticut Posts: 632 iTrader: 0 reviews	Those cars are ALL too damn heavy. Lol __________________ 1996 3.8L.. Split Port Swap, CAI, True Dual Exhaust, the car accident mod. Need cheap parts? CLICK MEEEEEEEEE!! =]

October 10th, 2011, 10:41 PM	#7
zinsavage123 Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT 12.33@111.23mph Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: baltimore, md Posts: 1,422 iTrader: 3 reviews	not that much the non turbo'd ones are turds __________________ 2001 Mustang GT - mods+pics in garage, tuned by matt@performance evolution 1996 Civic DX - my dd

October 10th, 2011, 10:42 PM	#8
walt1120 Hardcore Enthusiast 04 Stang 1.0Gallon V6 14.45 @95.8 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: South Jersey Posts: 2,130 iTrader: 2 reviews	I would shy away from Stealth/3000GT. They turn into money pits real quick... __________________ 2004 Bolt on & Cammed 3.9L V6

October 10th, 2011, 09:36 PM	#3
MustangV6Man? Enthusiast Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Posts: 664 iTrader: 1 reviews	Probably, but you guys are smart as hell overall. I bet someone knows.

October 10th, 2011, 10:09 PM	#5
ewells2420 Banned 2003 V6 Mustang 14.2 @ 96 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NC Posts: 636 iTrader: 0 reviews	How the hell should I know.

October 10th, 2011, 10:53 PM	#10
MustangV6Man? Enthusiast Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Posts: 664 iTrader: 1 reviews	Hmm I have heard that as well, and yes I know they're heavy and rather slow, but my 95 does have dual exhaust on it and some stuff done, prolly getting a tuner too. I think ill pass on it thanks guys.

October 10th, 2011, 10:55 PM	#11
zinsavage123 Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT 12.33@111.23mph Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: baltimore, md Posts: 1,422 iTrader: 3 reviews	good decision their is a reason you dont see many anymore especially modded ya know. __________________ 2001 Mustang GT - mods+pics in garage, tuned by matt@performance evolution 1996 Civic DX - my dd

October 11th, 2011, 02:50 AM	#13
Solar Black Regular 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Riverview, FL Posts: 124 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yes, the Mitsu 3000GT VR4 (AKA GTO) do have many problems. Those cars are just plain bad ass when it comes to performance but lacks the reliability. It almost seems like they focused on the idea of what it should have been built but half-assed it when produced. If you have the money you can get rid of all the problems the VR4 has but again...if you have the money. __________________ slow

October 11th, 2011, 02:55 AM	#14
zinsavage123 Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT 12.33@111.23mph Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: baltimore, md Posts: 1,422 iTrader: 3 reviews	fast+cheap=not reliable __________________ 2001 Mustang GT - mods+pics in garage, tuned by matt@performance evolution 1996 Civic DX - my dd

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