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Old December 3rd, 2007, 03:03 PM   #1
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429ing up a 79 Zepher Wagon


It has a 200 inline six in it right now, and I am guessing a 7.5 rear axle.
I have a sweet built 429 with all kinds of goodies to drop in it.
Wondering what kind of transmission I should use,(Truck C6, Car C6, C4 with big block bell housing, etc.)
I gather too that I will need a V8 cross member from some kind of a fox body.
Its going to be a quarter mile car / weekend cruiser. (You Have To Drive Em'!!!)

Has anyone messed around with such a project as this?

I am open to all kinds of ideas!

Thanks!!!

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Old December 3rd, 2007, 03:04 PM   #2
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welcome to the forums.

look into a turbo 400 transmission
 
Old December 3rd, 2007, 03:26 PM   #3
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It will be a unique combination. I like the idea. The Zepher is based on the fox body platform so alot of Mustang swap parts (k-member, oil pan, headers, rear end, etc.) are interchangeable. A powerglide or Turbo 400 like HMUSN said is the way to go for the transmission. 11s shouldn't be a problem.
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Old December 3rd, 2007, 06:44 PM   #4
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Any reason for the Turbo 400 over a good C6? It seems like a C6 should be strong enough, and you wouldn't have to go chasing down custom parts to make it fit.

Just curious.
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Old December 4th, 2007, 12:20 AM   #5
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Thanks for the suggestions! I picked up the little Zephyr Wagon a couple of years ago thinking that it would make a neat little beater car,....ugly as can be, and it cost me 80 bucks, so I drove it home, and parked it with a few of my other projects. My brother has a 2 door Zephyr that he picked up years ago that he has been talking about stuffing a sbf 331 stroker in it for about two years. Being the big brother I figured I can't let him beat me so I thought what if I put my 429 in my wagon?! Its uglier, making it more of a sleeper, and like you said it is based on a fox body design so upgrades should be do-able!

I like the odd and unusual stuff, and this car screams out "Sleeper!" I just recently picked up sub frame connectors, and the fox body 429/460 swap oil pan and motor mounts. I am not sure what headers to go with yet though, I have available some hooker 460 fox headers that a neighbor has and is wanting to sell to me, or I wonder if I should go with some awesome Kooks Headers that I found at "racingjunk.com"? The Kooks headers are 2&1/8" primaries with 4" collectors. They should breath well and sound pretty great to!

The power glide trans has been a thought that I have been toying with, seeing it is such a proven racing transmission, but like was pointed out adapting is a little bit more of a challenge, unless someone has one already set up for this application. A friend of mine who runs lots of 460's in his mud bog trucks takes his C6's to a guy who "rolerizes" them. Claiming it makes them a lot more efficient. Still I'm not sure what to choose!

Let me know if I'm off in insanity with my ideas!

I Feel The Need To Go FAST!

Thanks Again!

Mike
 
Old December 4th, 2007, 01:02 AM   #6
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A Little Bit Of My History.

I built my first truck from parts, it is a 78 F150 Ranger XLT (Full Size).
It had a badly knocking 351M in it and a 4spd standard trans. Black with red int.
I yarded out the tired 351M and stuck in a 429CJ that I picked up from a guy who gave up on his Torino project, scored the car and the 429 with C6 for a song! The 429 was a little fun to get in right, but finally after getting the proper parts, it fit in perfectly, and was shredding tires all through High School!!! Fastest truck in town! I was hooked on big cubes from then on!

My first car that I still own also is a 72 Mercury Cougar XR7. It needed a lot to get it going, a complete rebuild of both engine and transmission. Those being a 351C with a C6 trans. It lays awesome rubber, and it rides nice to!

I'll attach some pic's of both of these units sometime on here.

Since then I have continued collecting a ton of neat old Fords. A 56 F100, 56 Crown Vic, 71 and 72 Ford Torino's, 73, and 83 Cougars, a 71 Pinto (Hope To Make A 1/4 Miler), F-Series from 60's though 70's (Around 12 or so), a Model T 5 Window, 94 Cougar XR7 Special Edition w/a 4.6, 97 P71 Crown Vic, 2002 Super Duty Crew Cab 4X4 w/a 7.3, 69 Ford Galaxy 2dr w/a 351W, etc,etc,etc.

Sorry about the long posts, just thought I would let you know what I work with, so you might better understand my insanity with the FoMoCo obsession.

I am also a 25 year old guy with not nearly enough time for all of these projects, still I keep collecting, and building, and racing!

The Zephyr is a must get done for this summer though! There is a Monte Carlo, and a 69 Dart GT that need a little butt kicking here in town!!!

Might I add, our small time town is building a racers dream, paved and dirt oval tracks, mud bog pit, motocross track, demo derby arena, and the best part is a heated concrete 1/4 mile track! Check it out at: Welcome to Central Alberta Raceways at Rimbey, Alberta !

Now You Know What I'm Up To!!!

Let Me Know What You Think About This Too If You Like!

Sorry again about the long posts!!! Should be shorter now!

Mike
 
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nice got any pictures
 
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Yes, just gotta figure out the technology involved to get some of them on here.
Soon I Hope!!!

Mike
 
Old December 4th, 2007, 03:52 PM   #9
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Anyone know how the KOOKS headers work? Are they worth the extra$ over the Hooker headers?
How do they fit?

Thanks
 
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Originally Posted by ReverendDexter View Post
Any reason for the Turbo 400 over a good C6? It seems like a C6 should be strong enough, and you wouldn't have to go chasing down custom parts to make it fit.

Just curious.
C6s are heavy and soak up alot of horsepower. TH400s are more efficient and stronger. The parts to put a GM trans in a Mustang are plentiful. There is no chasing necessary.
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I just found a trans builder that rolerises (Spelling, Sorry) C6's. They warranty them to around a thousand horse power, the use about the same horse power as a C4. And they come with a bullitproof trans brake for $2,000. What do you think? Idea's?
 
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Originally Posted by CrazyWildMike View Post
I just found a trans builder that rolerises (Spelling, Sorry) C6's. They warranty them to around a thousand horse power, the use about the same horse power as a C4. And they come with a bullitproof trans brake for $2,000. What do you think? Idea's?
If that were true everyone would be using a C6. Think about it. If a C6 could be built to consume the power that a C4 does then nobody would use a C4. Everyone rollerizes every automatic transmission these days so that isn't anything new that this specific transbuilder invented. I'd be looking for a TH400 but its your car and you can put a C6 in it if you insist.
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Old October 31st, 2008, 03:53 PM   #13
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Been a while since I was on here!
Getting more parts for the 429 Stang. Might Be selling the Zephyr Wagon to better the Stang!
That and now also have a 04 P71 Crown Vic eating away a few $$$! Gonna Get a Few Pics On Very Soon!!
 
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