[leebunnyz]

Originally Posted by stangnewb I'm surprised that no one has said that the stock z06 vette can run in the high 10's with slicks stock. Oh and it costs less than the stock gtr or modified one for that matter. I am 100% sure that the gtr would kill the z06 in the twisties. If that gtr is going to cost $100k then its probably not worth it since the new vette zr1 costs that much and is shaping up to be a beast. It already bested the gtrs time in the Nürburgring. I still love Godzilla

well its a vid with a GTR and EVO, why would someone bring up the z06? and its RARE for a stock z06 to run 10's, only one guy hit 10.9 in a fully stock z06 and then he hit 10.8 with drag radials. the GTR is going to cost around $70k, the GTR spec-V will cost $100k.

[ReverendDexter]

On top of that, most speculation is that the GTR V-spec will be a few seconds faster yet than the ZR1 'round the 'ring.

Makes me wonder if there will be another V-spec Nur.

There's also a HUGE difference between the GTR and the Corvette in terms of mentality. The GT-R is chock full of all sorts of fancy-pants computers; traction control, yaw-control, super-mega ATESSA whatever, that allow any jackass to climb in and drive like a superhero. Hell, it's got a freakin' GPS system built into it that automatically disables the 112mph speed governor and puts it in sport mode when it knows it's at a racetrack!

You just jump in and try to drive like that in the Chevy and it will kick your ass by putting itself into a tree.

Either way, $100k buys you a VERY fast car. It just depends on what you want: do you want to have to learn to drive, or do you want the car to drive for you?

[DeMello]

Originally Posted by ReverendDexter On top of that, most speculation is that the GTR V-spec will be a few seconds faster yet than the ZR1 'round the 'ring. Makes me wonder if there will be another V-spec Nur. There's also a HUGE difference between the GTR and the Corvette in terms of mentality. The GT-R is chock full of all sorts of fancy-pants computers; traction control, yaw-control, super-mega ATESSA whatever, that allow any jackass to climb in and drive like a superhero. Hell, it's got a freakin' GPS system built into it that automatically disables the 112mph speed governor and puts it in sport mode when it knows it's at a racetrack! You just jump in and try to drive like that in the Chevy and it will kick your ass by putting itself into a tree. Either way, $100k buys you a VERY fast car. It just depends on what you want: do you want to have to learn to drive, or do you want the car to drive for you?

arnet the gtrs autos?

[ReverendDexter]

Originally Posted by DeMello arnet the gtrs autos?

No.

It's a dual-clutch six speed sequential manual.

[DeMello]

Originally Posted by ReverendDexter No. It's a dual-clutch six speed sequential manual.

explain....

[ReverendDexter]

It has two clutch plates, not just one.

A lot of high performance cars (read: track cars, not hi-perf street cars) run multi-disc setups. It gives you a lot of clutch surface area with less effective rotational mass (the discs are much smaller diameter).

[DeMello]

so 2 actually cluchts that you have to push down with your foot?

[ReverendDexter]

Originally Posted by DeMello so 2 actually cluchts that you have to push down with your foot?

lol, no, Just a single clutch pedal

And the one in the GT-R actually doesn't even have a pedal, it's computer-controlled.

[DeMello]

Originally Posted by ReverendDexter lol, no, Just a single clutch pedal i was gonna be like lol And the one in the GT-R actually doesn't even have a pedal, it's computer-controlled.

and computer controlled so its pretty much an auto?

[leebunnyz]

Originally Posted by DeMello and computer controlled so its pretty much an auto?

it drives like an auto but its not.

[DeMello]

thats gay

[leebunnyz]

Originally Posted by DeMello thats gay

depends how you look at it...it shifts faster then any human ever can, so it wouldnt be as fast if it didnt have it. but it does kind of take out the fun factor, i say kind of because how are you not going to have some fun in a 11 sec car.

[DeMello]

but you cant shfit it...thats bullshit

[leebunnyz]

you can shift it if you want with the paddles, its just that it doesnt have a 3rd peddle.

[DeMello]

Originally Posted by leebunnyz you can shift it if you want with the paddles, its just that it doesnt have a 3rd peddle.

i would HATE that

if i was that rich i would get that shit fixed...and not those paddle shifters easier

[ReverendDexter]

yeah, it's not that it shifts itself like an automatic (though it can).

You still tell it when to shift, and you can still "drop the clutch", as it were (have it in neutral, blip the gas, shift to first). It's still a true manual transmission, as there's no power-sucking torque converter in the drivetrain, it's just doing your clutch work for you.

I know I'm starting to reiterate...

You still row your own gears, you just don't have to do anything with the clutch pedal.

[leebunnyz]

Originally Posted by DeMello i would HATE that if i was that rich i would get that shit fixed...and not those paddle shifters easier

fix what? nothings broken...if you want an Awd turbo monster that you can shift then the porsche GT2 is what you would want.

[leebunnyz]

here it is, fast forward to 6:30 to see it go against a c6 z06

YouTube - Corvette Z06 vs Porsche 911 GT2 : What...

[ReverendDexter]

And before you rant about how much that sucks, go drive one.

Ferrari versions shift in 150 milliseconds or less.

That's clutch-shiftout-shiftin-unclutch in 15 HUNDREDTHS of a second. Even powershifting you can't shift that fast.

[DeMello]

im just sayin i would liek to be able to shift it