DSM people need help

87stang_5.0 · November 30th, 2008, 12:31 PM

I have a 94 eclipse gs 4g63 non turbo and I wanted to throw a 16g turbo kit on it. This forum tells you it is not really that hard. I know some one who knows who to install turbos but It says all I really need is a double layer metal head gasket. Is this true? All I would be pushing is about 8 psi. The 4G63 NT Engine, and How to make a turbo kit for it! - DSM Forums

TurboLX · November 30th, 2008, 12:46 PM

im sure your stock one will hold 8psi just fine.

but i will ask my DSM buddy and get back to you.

87stang_5.0 · November 30th, 2008, 01:59 PM

Thanks man, I appreciate it.

1FUN4RD · November 30th, 2008, 02:03 PM

Sheesh!! When I seen the title I thought someone in Des Moines needed help & it looks like you are from Ohio

87stang_5.0 · November 30th, 2008, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by 1FUN4RD

Sheesh!! When I seen the title I thought someone in Des Moines needed help & it looks like you are from Ohio

Haha Yea I am talking about DSM like Diamond Star Motors haha

ReverendDexter · December 1st, 2008, 09:31 PM

I thought the non-turbo DSMs didn't have the 4G63? I thought they had the same 2.2L that was put in the twin-cam neons.

JStab · December 1st, 2008, 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by ReverendDexter

I thought the non-turbo DSMs didn't have the 4G63? I thought they had the same 2.2L that was put in the twin-cam neons.

You are thinking of the 95-99 (2g). The 1g's actually had a form of the 4g. It wasnt exactly a 4g63, it was nowhere near as strong if i remember correctly. You can also find these engines in old Hyundai's. It can be done, but i wouldn't recommend it if you are looking for any form of relibilty

87stang_5.0 · December 1st, 2008, 11:19 PM

the 1gs either had a 1.8 sohc 4g67 or the 2.0 dohc 4g63 the 4g63 came in the turbo or na the only difference of the block is the the turbo 4g63 has oil squirters to keep the pistons cool.

87stang_5.0 · December 1st, 2008, 11:20 PM

The 2gs had two engines early 2gs had the 4g63 the late 2gs had the 420a 2.0

87stang_5.0 · December 1st, 2008, 11:23 PM

but dodge put the 4g63 in early neons and other cars.

JStab · December 1st, 2008, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by 87stang_5.0

the 1gs either had a 1.8 sohc 4g67 or the 2.0 dohc 4g63 the 4g63 came in the turbo or na the only difference of the block is the the turbo 4g63 has oil squirters to keep the pistons cool.

Yeah i knew the 1.8 was way off.... I didnt no the n/t motor was also a 4g63, i thought it was like 4g64 or something off like that. I know it lacked a few things the 4g63t motor had i.e. squirters, and i believe the pistons differed

Originally Posted by 87stang_5.0

The 2gs had two engines early 2gs had the 4g63 the late 2gs had the 420a 2.0

I didnt know that, My sister had a 95 talon esi and it had the 420a motor. Not sure which "early 2g" models came with the 4g63 n/t motor.

Originally Posted by 87stang_5.0

but dodge put the 4g63 in early neons and other cars.

That i didnt know either. I know it came in Hyundai's like i stated earlier. Actually getting the Hyundai 2.2 or 2.4L cam was a step up for the 4g63t. I did it and didnt notice anything but it was supposedly a better cam.

JStab · December 1st, 2008, 11:31 PM

Dug this up

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F8L 500 · December 2nd, 2008, 12:07 AM

420a is from 95-99 non-turbo. I was a DSMer for over 6 years. Just sold my 95 gsx this past feb and still miss it

The 4g63 in the non-turbo 1g's has a little bit of a higher compression. Throw a turbo on it!

87stang_5.0 · December 2nd, 2008, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by F8L 500

420a is from 95-99 non-turbo. I was a DSMer for over 6 years. Just sold my 95 gsx this past feb and still miss it The 4g63 in the non-turbo 1g's has a little bit of a higher compression. Throw a turbo on it!

Is there anything I should change?

Matt Cramer · December 2nd, 2008, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by 87stang_5.0

but dodge put the 4g63 in early neons and other cars.

Neons never had the 4G63 (at least not without some creative work with a Sawzall and welder), but there were a few '80s era Dodge pickups that had a SOHC version of the 4G63. I've got one of these trucks myself, and yes, I'm planning to drop the turbo DOHC version in there once I can find the time.

87stang_5.0 · December 2nd, 2008, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Matt Cramer

Neons never had the 4G63 (at least not without some creative work with a Sawzall and welder), but there were a few '80s era Dodge pickups that had a SOHC version of the 4G63. I've got one of these trucks myself, and yes, I'm planning to drop the turbo DOHC version in there once I can find the time.

Yea I have the Dohc. I meant the dodge colts not neons hahah but yea that would be a sick conversion.

F8L 500 · December 2nd, 2008, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by 87stang_5.0

Is there anything I should change?

I would personally just find a 4g63t motor and throw that in there. Gonna probably have to switch out the fuel pump, sensors and some more. I'm not sure on all specifics but dsmtuners.com is a awesome site for info on anything for that car.

87stang_5.0 · December 2nd, 2008, 08:02 PM

Yea, I go on dsmtuners but they have mixed opinions on it.
Thanks for the tim on sensors and fuel pump etc.

November 30th, 2008, 12:31 PM	#1
87stang_5.0 Regular 1987 mustang hatchback N/A Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: mantua, ohio Posts: 178 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 0 reviews	DSM people need help I have a 94 eclipse gs 4g63 non turbo and I wanted to throw a 16g turbo kit on it. This forum tells you it is not really that hard. I know some one who knows who to install turbos but It says all I really need is a double layer metal head gasket. Is this true? All I would be pushing is about 8 psi. The 4G63 NT Engine, and How to make a turbo kit for it! - DSM Forums

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December 2nd, 2008, 12:07 AM	#13
F8L 500 Regular 2008 GT500 11.47@123 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 63 iTrader: 0 reviews	420a is from 95-99 non-turbo. I was a DSMer for over 6 years. Just sold my 95 gsx this past feb and still miss it The 4g63 in the non-turbo 1g's has a little bit of a higher compression. Throw a turbo on it! __________________ Jen (07 S197's other half) 08 GT500 Vista Blue/ White stripes 534rwhp/ 539tq( that's a lie....I have more power now

November 30th, 2008, 12:46 PM	#2
TurboLX I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1988 Mustang LX Turbo Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NY Posts: 8,792 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	im sure your stock one will hold 8psi just fine. but i will ask my DSM buddy and get back to you.

November 30th, 2008, 01:59 PM	#3
87stang_5.0 Regular 1987 mustang hatchback N/A Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: mantua, ohio Posts: 178 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanks man, I appreciate it.

December 1st, 2008, 11:19 PM	#8
87stang_5.0 Regular 1987 mustang hatchback N/A Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: mantua, ohio Posts: 178 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 0 reviews	the 1gs either had a 1.8 sohc 4g67 or the 2.0 dohc 4g63 the 4g63 came in the turbo or na the only difference of the block is the the turbo 4g63 has oil squirters to keep the pistons cool.

December 1st, 2008, 11:20 PM	#9
87stang_5.0 Regular 1987 mustang hatchback N/A Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: mantua, ohio Posts: 178 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 0 reviews	The 2gs had two engines early 2gs had the 4g63 the late 2gs had the 420a 2.0

December 1st, 2008, 11:23 PM	#10
87stang_5.0 Regular 1987 mustang hatchback N/A Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: mantua, ohio Posts: 178 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 0 reviews	but dodge put the 4g63 in early neons and other cars.

December 2nd, 2008, 08:02 PM	#18
87stang_5.0 Regular 1987 mustang hatchback N/A Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: mantua, ohio Posts: 178 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yea, I go on dsmtuners but they have mixed opinions on it. Thanks for the tim on sensors and fuel pump etc.

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