[FloridaStang]

I know they are not a super great well proven brand like MM or griggs but i was wondering how the granatelli stuff holds up on a dd that will see an occasional auto x or maybe a track day.

[Smilieboy]

I haven't heard much good stuff about their suspension components. Better off just getting MM.

[94racing]

Havent heard anything about them nore know anybody running it.

[JakeM]

They used to have HORRIBLE quality control and most of their parts are re-branded anyway. I'd steer clear. Go with MM, BMR, Steeda or any good reputable brand.

[hotmustang95]

I too do not know anyone running their stuff.

[Macunicorn]

Originally Posted by Smilieboy I haven't heard much good stuff about their suspension components. Better off just getting MM.

+1. I wouldnt spend the money and taking a chance with that stuff, not saying it won't work. IMO the MM suspension components can't be beat.

[94racing]

Originally Posted by Macunicorn +1. I wouldnt spend the money and taking a chance with that stuff, not saying it won't work. IMO the MM suspension components can't be beat.

griggs........

[EscortSportage]

MM u wont regret it

[Granatelli]

Originally Posted by 2k2GT I know alot of people have a concrete mindset on J.R. Granatelli and/or his company. Well, after reading every thing I could on this company/person, I talked with him for a little bit about a few things. Long story short about that, I told him my intentions and expectations of the car once it's done and he agreed to send me a complete Granatelli tubular front end kit to install in my car while I had my transmission, header, and K-member out of my car. While my car isn't used every day, it is by all means a daily driver that I drive to autocross, drive to track events and drive to the dragstrip and then take to the movies on the weekends....it's an "everything" car. I was on no time frame, so i've had the Granatelli pieces for about a month or two and worked on the car in my free time. I will simply post pictures of my experience, as it was a GREAT ONE! I have never ever swapped out a K-member before in any car and have had nothing to compare it to. I simply followed the directions, USED COMMON SENSE, and took my time on the little steps that need to be done to make it RIGHT. If you think you can just unbolt the stock stuff from your car, and bolt up a COMPLETELY NEW front end kit and it be perfect.....stop kidding yourself. You guys with cams would want to get it dyno'd/tuned to be "right", wouldn't you? Same with nitrous....take your precautions, do it right and enjoy the success. This is the ENTIRE Granatelling front end kit....everything to replace your OE stuff on the weight scale. Close up of some pieces Stock Kmember with stock A arms... ....and add the stock springs to that weight

part 1

[Granatelli]

Originally Posted by 2k2GT Random install pics

part 2

[Granatelli]

Originally Posted by 2k2GT Relocated brake lines(easy issue) This shows the movement forward of the suspension and how no longer the endlink correctly lines up with the swaybar tab Adapter to move swaybar foward one inch using OE hardware C/C plates installed. Notice the use of LARGE FENDER WASHERS under the bolts. This was used due to my car's previous use of Steeda 3-bolt C/C plates. The reason for the fender washers(which were provided in the Granatelli K-member kit)were because I had ENLARGED the OE holes to allow more adjustment on my previous setup. This was all my fault for the washers, your car would not need these. These large washer just help distribute the weight more evenly across the larger hole I made. Granatelli coil overs installed. Some tight tolerances, but using your head and COMMON SENSE will get you through this. Random header clearance shots

part 3

[Granatelli]

Originally Posted by 2k2GT Random finish install pics I want to add that this kit went together WELL! The K-member require very minimal squaring to the car/rear axle. Just using some simple string, some plum bobs(drill bits in my case, i'm a redneck) and some measuring tape. The car aligned damn near perfect. You can see by the C/C plates that have alot of negative camber I can dial in for track days/autocross still...and thats the way I want it. I'm running 1.6* negative camber at the moment and right at 6.1 positive caster with an 1/8th inch toe out. Now, as for durability.....well, I can't predict the future. However, this kit looked really really solidly welded. I even took it to a local fabrication shop to have it inspected before I installed it. I have no clue what a good weld or a bad weld looks like. They said it looks like something they'd have no problem putting on a car they build and do dirt track racing with late models. Thats good enough for me! The coil over kit I thought might be a hassle. They didn't really fit snug on the shock body like i'd hope. However, I a small piece of radiator hose around the garage so I snipped it up a bit and used it as a bushing between the threaded body and the shock body. Works great, no noises no nothing no clanking.....really please with that! The ride is great.....or just as good as I remember it from 4 months ago when I tore out all the stock location stuff. I plan to daily drive this car for a week or so, then go back over ALL the bolts and check for anything abnormal. March starts up autocross and in May I believe the YEAR ONE EXPERIENCE is coming to Road Atlanta, so i'll be putting this thing through the hoops and I'll certainly update this thread as the future becomes past tense. So in closing, this is a great kit and killer for the cost. I want to thank J.R. for being on the other end of the phone when I needed him. The did not, or forgot to ship out C/C plates with my order and J.R.(or his shipping guy) made sure I got them 3 days later. Mistakes happen...no biggie, we're all human. Thanks for viewing/reading!

What can I say that this person did not.

[Granatelli]

Originally Posted by JakeM They used to have HORRIBLE quality control and most of their parts are re-branded anyway. I'd steer clear. Go with MM, BMR, Steeda or any good reputable brand.

Well we try super hard on servicing the customers and as for Rebranding - he is right but has it backwards. Granatelli rebrands for others. Even in a crappy economy, we still ship roughly 120 k-member kits a month, with A-arms and coil overs under our customers names - we rebrand Granatelli under thier name. Plus we ship about 75 more under the Granatelli brand.

I wear my heart on my sleeve and when bashed (i the past) i would try to defend GMS rather then ignore it - that got confused with poor customer relations - I called it defending products against guys that never really had it but made stuff up.

Granatelli has been around for 70 years guys - We are still the same people. Started Aeromotive, Paxton Superchargers, Pro-M West.

We also don't goudge the consumer. We offer fair pricing

[94racing]

Originally Posted by Granatelli Well we try super hard on servicing the customers and as for Rebranding - he is right but has it backwards. Granatelli rebrands for others. Even in a crappy economy, we still ship roughly 120 k-member kits a month, with A-arms and coil overs under our customers names - we rebrand Granatelli under thier name. Plus we ship about 75 more under the Granatelli brand. I wear my heart on my sleeve and when bashed (i the past) i would try to defend GMS rather then ignore it - that got confused with poor customer relations - I called it defending products against guys that never really had it but made stuff up. Granatelli has been around for 70 years guys - We are still the same people. Started Aeromotive, Paxton Superchargers, Pro-M West. We also don't goudge the consumer. We offer fair pricing

so can i have a free trial kmember?
jk
i dont bash if i dont know really im familiar with my dads griggs setup and a few mm setups. id like to see some of these setup cars on the track i was curious about this but i was hoping it wasnt anything like agent 47. ive seen/ had some bad experience as a crew cheif with theyre setup.

[Granatelli]

Originally Posted by 94racing so can i have a free trial kmember? jk i dont bash if i dont know really im familiar with my dads griggs setup and a few mm setups. id like to see some of these setup cars on the track i was curious about this but i was hoping it wasnt anything like agent 47. ive seen/ had some bad experience as a crew cheif with theyre setup.

He got nothing for free - he just paid $600 for the entire package that is normally $800.00 I will make teh same offer to you $600 for all of it

MM has nice stuff - just ask them They charge like it is made out of Gold

Bruce Griggs is awesome - Granatelli worked closely with Griggs in the old days 1992 & 93. Griggs made his own deal with Ford so we went our seperate ways. Its all good

Today Granatelli is the one to watch. We offer the best product at the super best prices. It is just that simple. Since 1990 we have sold over 45,000 K-members and A-arms. All the trash talk and the best anyone can do is dig up a few posts from yester-decade. 90% of Granatelli's problem is Granatelli - He hates it when he gfets bashed and rather then shut up and ignore it - he fights back and then all the bad guys trounce on him it ain't pretty

[JakeM]

GMS tubular K-member

Originally Posted by BlueGT01 A few days ago both of my control arms decided to go out. AT THE SAME TIME. Luckily i was on my street right near my house so i just pulled in front( Thank Manbearpig) So i was looking around for control arms and eventually just got to the point where i said $#%@ it. And went with the GMS k-member, tubular control arms and coil over set. Im hoping these things are as good as ive heard about them. The k-member looks alot more solid than other one but i just wanted to get some opinions.

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Originally Posted by Stacie I checked the coil packs... I actually had fouled out 2 of them during the spring... Granatelli (bless their souls) replaced them free of charge. During that issue she idled really rough... Car would shake during idle and acceleration. I know it's not the coil packs. :/ Thanks for the suggestion though! As far as engine/performance (non suspension/body mods) I'm currently running the Granatelli Extreme Pro-Series coil packs, Steeda CAI, SCT powerflash/tunes for 91+ octane, BBK full lenght headers, SLP loudmouth/muffler delete exhaust, BBK hi-flow cats & X-pipe, brand new (as of last night) alternator & Optima red-top battery. I haven't yet installed my BBK fuel-rails or the Zex Nitrous kit but haven't added that to my SCT tunes yet so couldn't imagine that being an issue. I've toyed with the idle RPM settings to see if that would help. At first it helped, but it's become moot. I've re-flashed to stock and gotten a new tune with only the Steeda CAI and Exhaust info in the tunes and that hasn't helped. I'm desperate for suggestions! I'm still waiting on my other alternator...I had ordered a 200Amp 'Tuff Stuff' alternator from Summit, but they keep pushing out the darned back-order date, so I picked up a "performance plus" alternator yesterday and threw it on with the new battery but that did absolutely NOTHING for my issue.

Granatelli Help

Originally Posted by acw05 Just put in Granatelli's cold air kit on my 05 GT...the idle started surging (dropping low, then coming back to normal) and the factory 'limp home mode' came on. I took it off and put the factory intake back on and it was fine. Everything else is stock and I followed their instructions step by step. Is there another trick I should know to get this working? I emailed GMS too, but it's the weekend and I'm impatient, so I'm looking for help here, too. Thanks all....

Coil packs add HP?

Still trying to say your COP's add horsepower on a otherwise stock car? Sorry, but this is from a 5 minute search on JUST this forum. In my opinion your "quality" speaks for itself.

P.S. Are you slinging your products here even though you're not even a site vendor?

[94racing]

Originally Posted by Granatelli He got nothing for free - he just paid $600 for the entire package that is normally $800.00 I will make teh same offer to you $600 for all of it MM has nice stuff - just ask them They charge like it is made out of Gold Bruce Griggs is awesome - Granatelli worked closely with Griggs in the old days 1992 & 93. Griggs made his own deal with Ford so we went our seperate ways. Its all good Today Granatelli is the one to watch. We offer the best product at the super best prices. It is just that simple. Since 1990 we have sold over 45,000 K-members and A-arms. All the trash talk and the best anyone can do is dig up a few posts from yester-decade. 90% of Granatelli's problem is Granatelli - He hates it when he gfets bashed and rather then shut up and ignore it - he fights back and then all the bad guys trounce on him it ain't pretty

Hmm if i werent concidering getting a newer car i might take you up on it. Will have to see what winter brings but id be interested to see how well youre product performs around mid ohio as compared to a stock car and a mm car. With the same motor mods. And platform. Would be interesting...

[Smilieboy]

Originally Posted by Granatelli He got nothing for free - he just paid $600 for the entire package that is normally $800.00 I will make teh same offer to you $600 for all of it MM has nice stuff - just ask them They charge like it is made out of Gold Bruce Griggs is awesome - Granatelli worked closely with Griggs in the old days 1992 & 93. Griggs made his own deal with Ford so we went our seperate ways. Its all good Today Granatelli is the one to watch. We offer the best product at the super best prices. It is just that simple. Since 1990 we have sold over 45,000 K-members and A-arms. All the trash talk and the best anyone can do is dig up a few posts from yester-decade. 90% of Granatelli's problem is Granatelli - He hates it when he gfets bashed and rather then shut up and ignore it - he fights back and then all the bad guys trounce on him it ain't pretty

4500 is charging like gold to build arguably one of the best suspensions for a new edge with a live axle?

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Also, your company from what i see doesn't address the real issue when it comes to corner carving with this chassis design, the rear suspension. From my experience, that is the number one area that needs fixing, followed then by the front and steering. Maximum and Griggs have spent god knows how much money to find and product sold proven set ups. Granatelli builds good stuff for drag racing, but I haven't seen stuff that proves itself in the cornering game.

[MATT02GT]

+1 I'd stay away from granatelli. I've heard nothing but horror stories. I run alot of Steeda stuff and their quality and fitment have been top notch. I also would recommend looking at racecraft for a k member. It's one of the beefier ones on the market without the hefty price tag of the mm unit. Mine fit great without any alignment issues and they also offer a road race option that adds additional strength.

[Granatelli]

Originally Posted by Smilieboy Also, your company from what i see doesn't address the real issue when it comes to corner carving with this chassis design, the rear suspension. From my experience, that is the number one area that needs fixing, followed then by the front and steering. Maximum and Griggs have spent god knows how much money to find and product sold proven set ups. Granatelli builds good stuff for drag racing, but I haven't seen stuff that proves itself in the cornering game.

You are sort of changing the subject in a round about way. Granatelli has addressed the K-member, Coil overs and A-arms (the front) in the rear we do offer upper and lower control arms with a multitude of bushing options, urethane, billet, Delran and even heim joints. We have weight jacker type arms allowing the end use to preload the rear suspension and lastly while not offered over the counter anymore we still offer a complete rear panhard rod heavy duty system to keep the back end of the car firmly planted on the ground. It dramatically increases cornering stability: forces even rear tire wear and promotes even traction. It also works with all aftermarket torque arms and its intension is for road racing.

While I appreciate the kind words as to our drag racing prowess. Hoever, let’s not forget Granatelli made its name in SCCA road racing, USAC sanctioned events across America and of course Indy Car 1942 through 1992. I did not get into drag racing until much later in my professional career.

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If anyone has this issue, APRIL 1992 of Superford Magazine, it pretty much spells it all out. Granatelli Motor Sports, then a division of Paxton Superchargers, in concert with CCM – Central Coast Mustangs dominated the SuperFord Magazine suspension shoot outs 1990, 1991, 1992 and 1993. 4 years in a row. . You will note there is NO TALK of MM as they did not exist at the time and Bruce Griggs, again respectfully, was working on BMW sports cars. Dennis Hilliard of CCM and my partner at the time, worked hand in hand with Bruce Griggs as they developed our joint venture torque arm and other suspension parts.

As a side bar – I think MM gets a lot of props for a lot of the parts many assume are innovative when really they are just spins offs of Griggs. Again just my opinion.

Anyway back to the story, as you all know there comes a time when everyone wants to make it on their own. Bruce Griggs was no different. Using the connections he made from CCM, GMS and Paxton, Griggs made a deal with Don Walsh Sr. (father of Donnie Walsh the drag racer) who at the time was in charge of Ford Racings performance chassis & after market parts department. Griggs figured if he could make a direct deal with Ford, he would not need CCM or Granatelli anymore.

When Griggs made the deal direct is pissed off CCM who said he would no longer work with Griggs based on disloyalty. CCM and Granatelli just picked up right were they left off and continued to manufacture, sell and dominate The Ford suspension world. By 1993, Ford Drag racing was at an all time high and in Ford Racings own words, “we sell 24 times as much product for drag racing as we do to our road course customers”. We just followed the stronger business model. Ford dropped the Griggs line less than 18 months after making the deal and now Griggs was a manufacture with no one to sell his products. That gave way to MM coming into his sandbox and taking market share.

I am still a Griggs fan over MM and I agree they both focus most of their attention on “corner carving” but that does not take away form our HUGE success in this segment. By 1998 CCM and GMS were selling close to 6 million a year in Mustang suspension 70% drag and 30% road course. By 2001 it was 85% / 15%. – What did you expect I was a Ford Sponsored drag racer from 2000 to 2004 and that consumed all my time.

So that is a long story for – you are correct, Griggs and MM focus on corner carving but that does not mean GMS right here and now still can not help each and every racer looking for great parts that will get you on the podium.