1969 playboy Pink Mustang Fastback

BA Mustang · November 24th, 2009, 07:22 PM

special order

Drick · November 24th, 2009, 07:49 PM

Yep it wasnt a color code It had special or something to that effect (I cant remember exact) Stamped on its data plate

BA Mustang · November 24th, 2009, 08:19 PM

6 number DSO code usually shows special order.

69fastback · November 29th, 2009, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by Countryboy_99

Huh. Everyone's always informed me and everything I read also said that it was a 4 speed. I apologize for my ignorance.

There are toploader 3 speeds, 3 speed w/overdrives, close ratio 4 speeds, and wide ratio 4 speeds.

Countryboy_99 · November 30th, 2009, 09:50 AM

Ok, so what does that translate to in how they're different? The first one is three gears, the second is three gears and an overdrive gear (so technically 4 gears total), the third is 4 gears with an emphasis on acceleration through the gears, and the fourth is 4 gears with gears spaced out wider apart resulting less acceleration but higher top speed and lower rpm's at cruising speeds? How far off am I in my assumptions?

69fastback · November 30th, 2009, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by Countryboy_99

Ok, so what does that translate to in how they're different? The first one is three gears, the second is three gears and an overdrive gear (so technically 4 gears total), the third is 4 gears with an emphasis on acceleration through the gears, and the fourth is 4 gears with gears spaced out wider apart resulting less acceleration but higher top speed and lower rpm's at cruising speeds? How far off am I in my assumptions?

That's pretty close. The 3 speeds were an early transmission, and the overdrive tranny was a truck transmission. It had a "granny gear" for first, and when you went from 3rd to overdrive, it was almost like skipping a gear lol. They're junk and you don't want one.

You're correct on the close ratio being geared towards acceleration. The wide ratio is a little more street friendly, but gives no better cruising speed or anything like that, because the final drive ratio on all of them (accept the overdrive) is 1:1.

Countryboy_99 · December 2nd, 2009, 10:10 AM

Yeah, I'd heard that about the truck version of the toploader and the final drive ratio. Just curious, is it possible to install the overdrive gear into a 4 speed close ration in place of it's final gear? That sounds like it would be the best of both world in terms of acceleration and highway cruising.

69fastback · December 2nd, 2009, 11:35 AM

No, you can't convert an toploader to an overdrive because the output bearing on the O/D transmission is larger than the toploader transmission, so the cases and tailshafts are actually different. If you want O/D a T5 is your best bet.

460brevill · December 3rd, 2009, 09:48 AM

i have a t-5 settup for cheap.

Countryboy_99 · December 3rd, 2009, 09:26 PM

Looks like I'll be looking for a close ratio top loader then.

aintsheperty66 · December 5th, 2009, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by 460brevill

i have a t-5 settup for cheap.

How much?

November 24th, 2009, 07:22 PM	#21
BA Mustang Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 GT Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 1,892 iTrader: 0 reviews	special order __________________

November 24th, 2009, 07:49 PM	#22
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,336 iTrader: 1 reviews	Yep it wasnt a color code It had special or something to that effect (I cant remember exact) Stamped on its data plate __________________ FX4 Crew Crew member #1 Don't take anything I say to heart, I don't try to come off as an asshole. It just happens

November 24th, 2009, 08:19 PM	#23
BA Mustang Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 GT Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 1,892 iTrader: 0 reviews	6 number DSO code usually shows special order. __________________

November 30th, 2009, 09:50 AM	#25
Countryboy_99 Enthusiast '95 GT Was probably faster before I got it. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Wichita, Kansas Posts: 861 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ok, so what does that translate to in how they're different? The first one is three gears, the second is three gears and an overdrive gear (so technically 4 gears total), the third is 4 gears with an emphasis on acceleration through the gears, and the fourth is 4 gears with gears spaced out wider apart resulting less acceleration but higher top speed and lower rpm's at cruising speeds? How far off am I in my assumptions? __________________ Its red, long, and comes with an 8 foot bed attached. Wanna come play with it?

December 2nd, 2009, 10:10 AM	#27
Countryboy_99 Enthusiast '95 GT Was probably faster before I got it. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Wichita, Kansas Posts: 861 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yeah, I'd heard that about the truck version of the toploader and the final drive ratio. Just curious, is it possible to install the overdrive gear into a 4 speed close ration in place of it's final gear? That sounds like it would be the best of both world in terms of acceleration and highway cruising. __________________ Its red, long, and comes with an 8 foot bed attached. Wanna come play with it?

December 2nd, 2009, 11:35 AM	#28
69fastback Premium Member 1969 Mustang Mach 1 6.824@101.61 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oklahoma jackass, get to driving Posts: 5,572 iTrader: 0 reviews	No, you can't convert an toploader to an overdrive because the output bearing on the O/D transmission is larger than the toploader transmission, so the cases and tailshafts are actually different. If you want O/D a T5 is your best bet. __________________ ./___ _ ____ ___ \. ( ]]] _ _ O _ _ [[[ ) \_ o _ _____ _ o _/ \|___\| ......... \|___\| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyYU3...e_gdata_player

December 3rd, 2009, 09:48 AM	#29
460brevill Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Farmville VA Posts: 1,327 iTrader: 0 reviews	i have a t-5 settup for cheap. __________________ i sixing 200 six with 300 hp.

December 3rd, 2009, 09:26 PM	#30
Countryboy_99 Enthusiast '95 GT Was probably faster before I got it. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Wichita, Kansas Posts: 861 iTrader: 0 reviews	Looks like I'll be looking for a close ratio top loader then. __________________ Its red, long, and comes with an 8 foot bed attached. Wanna come play with it?

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