Shifter Locking Up

ajzride · March 26th, 2011, 03:17 PM

My baby made her first mile today!!!

Okay, I have one big issue though. The tranny is a 4-speed top loader from a 1969 Mach 1 that was completely rebuild in december by my father. Using a crescent wrench, it will cycle through all the gears fine. However, when I put the shifter on it (Hurst, original with the tranny), it shifts through all the forward gears with no problems, but if I put it in reverse, I'm done. It will go into reverse and come out, but you can't go into any gears after that, even back to reverse. I have to break the linkage loose and reset it all. I'm pretty sure its an issue with the shifter/linkage, but I wanted to get the opinion of some more knowledgeable persons before I dropped the money on a new shifter.

MustangOne · March 26th, 2011, 08:51 PM

Did you set all the lengths of the rods, set it to neutral and use 1/4 drill bit in the hole, and make all the rods the length to set in neutral

ajzride · March 26th, 2011, 11:10 PM

Thanks MustangOne, I did a dozen google searches last night, and found nothing remotely helpful. After your post, I googled "install hurst shifter drill bit" (go figure) and found one useful result, a very thorough install on a chevy muncie trans.

P177863 Image Large Photo 1

I don't suppose anyone has a link to install instructions for a top loader? Looks like I will be completely ripping it all loose again tomorrow and trying this again using the Camaro walkthrough as a rough guide.

MustangOne · March 27th, 2011, 08:51 AM

It is the same setup on a top loader.

here is a good link you, Hurst shifters

ajzride · March 28th, 2011, 10:39 PM

What I was really looking for was a diagram to show which order and orientation to hook up the linkage, since the linkage can be adjusted so that the bar is above or below the metal plate that attaches to the transmission. If anyone else ever finds themselves needing such information, summit has install instructions for different shifter kits online. Search for the hurst install kit for your transmission, then you can download a pdf with an exploded view to help with the orientation of the linkage.

MustangOne · March 29th, 2011, 09:24 AM

Do you have a link to it so we can just click on it...

ajzride · March 29th, 2011, 09:41 AM

I don't know why I cannot attach files, every file I have ever tried fails. I guess click on the link, then look for instructions below the picture.

Hurst Shifters 3737637 - Hurst Competition/Plus Installation Kits - Overview - SummitRacing.com

MustangOne · March 29th, 2011, 09:54 AM

Here is the link

pdf with an exploded view

ajzride · April 1st, 2011, 08:43 PM

Okay. Everything is oriented the proper way. I used the drill bit to lock the shifter in neutral, and it was a lot easier to hook up. The problem is much less noticable, but it still gets stuck in no man's land sometimes. I noticed that even when the drill was holding the shifter still, the linkage had alot of play in it (like side to side and back and forth). Would a rebuild kit (I guess this would have new bushings) solve my problem, or am I looking at new linkage?

Thanks guys.

ajzride · April 20th, 2011, 12:28 AM

The link above for the exploded PDF is wrong (my fault, not MustangOne): The correct link is:

http://static.summitracing.com/globa...uu-3735587.pdf

March 26th, 2011, 03:17 PM	#1
ajzride Regular 1965 Mustang Coupe Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 483 iTrader: 0 reviews	Shifter Locking Up My baby made her first mile today!!! Okay, I have one big issue though. The tranny is a 4-speed top loader from a 1969 Mach 1 that was completely rebuild in december by my father. Using a crescent wrench, it will cycle through all the gears fine. However, when I put the shifter on it (Hurst, original with the tranny), it shifts through all the forward gears with no problems, but if I put it in reverse, I'm done. It will go into reverse and come out, but you can't go into any gears after that, even back to reverse. I have to break the linkage loose and reset it all. I'm pretty sure its an issue with the shifter/linkage, but I wanted to get the opinion of some more knowledgeable persons before I dropped the money on a new shifter.

March 26th, 2011, 08:51 PM	#2
MustangOne Lost in the 60's 1968 GT 500 Super Snake 12.6 @ 114.3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sapulpa Oklahoma Posts: 2,053 iTrader: 0 reviews	Did you set all the lengths of the rods, set it to neutral and use 1/4 drill bit in the hole, and make all the rods the length to set in neutral __________________ MustangOne's Car's How to post Photos in Your Thread. Vote for your Favorite Ride of the month, Every Month Modded Mustangs Facebook

March 26th, 2011, 11:10 PM	#3
ajzride Regular 1965 Mustang Coupe Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 483 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanks MustangOne, I did a dozen google searches last night, and found nothing remotely helpful. After your post, I googled "install hurst shifter drill bit" (go figure) and found one useful result, a very thorough install on a chevy muncie trans. P177863 Image Large Photo 1 I don't suppose anyone has a link to install instructions for a top loader? Looks like I will be completely ripping it all loose again tomorrow and trying this again using the Camaro walkthrough as a rough guide. Last edited by ajzride; March 26th, 2011 at 11:11 PM. Reason: giving props to MustangOne

March 27th, 2011, 08:51 AM	#4
MustangOne Lost in the 60's 1968 GT 500 Super Snake 12.6 @ 114.3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sapulpa Oklahoma Posts: 2,053 iTrader: 0 reviews	It is the same setup on a top loader. here is a good link you, Hurst shifters __________________ MustangOne's Car's How to post Photos in Your Thread. Vote for your Favorite Ride of the month, Every Month Modded Mustangs Facebook

March 29th, 2011, 09:24 AM	#6
MustangOne Lost in the 60's 1968 GT 500 Super Snake 12.6 @ 114.3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sapulpa Oklahoma Posts: 2,053 iTrader: 0 reviews	Do you have a link to it so we can just click on it... __________________ MustangOne's Car's How to post Photos in Your Thread. Vote for your Favorite Ride of the month, Every Month Modded Mustangs Facebook

March 28th, 2011, 10:39 PM	#5
ajzride Regular 1965 Mustang Coupe Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 483 iTrader: 0 reviews	What I was really looking for was a diagram to show which order and orientation to hook up the linkage, since the linkage can be adjusted so that the bar is above or below the metal plate that attaches to the transmission. If anyone else ever finds themselves needing such information, summit has install instructions for different shifter kits online. Search for the hurst install kit for your transmission, then you can download a pdf with an exploded view to help with the orientation of the linkage.

March 29th, 2011, 09:41 AM	#7
ajzride Regular 1965 Mustang Coupe Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 483 iTrader: 0 reviews	I don't know why I cannot attach files, every file I have ever tried fails. I guess click on the link, then look for instructions below the picture. Hurst Shifters 3737637 - Hurst Competition/Plus Installation Kits - Overview - SummitRacing.com

March 29th, 2011, 09:54 AM	#8
MustangOne Lost in the 60's 1968 GT 500 Super Snake 12.6 @ 114.3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sapulpa Oklahoma Posts: 2,053 iTrader: 0 reviews	Here is the link pdf with an exploded view __________________ MustangOne's Car's How to post Photos in Your Thread. Vote for your Favorite Ride of the month, Every Month Modded Mustangs Facebook

April 1st, 2011, 08:43 PM	#9
ajzride Regular 1965 Mustang Coupe Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 483 iTrader: 0 reviews	Okay. Everything is oriented the proper way. I used the drill bit to lock the shifter in neutral, and it was a lot easier to hook up. The problem is much less noticable, but it still gets stuck in no man's land sometimes. I noticed that even when the drill was holding the shifter still, the linkage had alot of play in it (like side to side and back and forth). Would a rebuild kit (I guess this would have new bushings) solve my problem, or am I looking at new linkage? Thanks guys.

April 20th, 2011, 12:28 AM	#10
ajzride Regular 1965 Mustang Coupe Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 483 iTrader: 0 reviews	The link above for the exploded PDF is wrong (my fault, not MustangOne): The correct link is: http://static.summitracing.com/globa...uu-3735587.pdf

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