[Gregski]

Originally Posted by RickIsYoDaddy im still out looking for my fastback dammit.. noone is selling a decent condition one. I wouldnt mind a convertible either but none are for sale either.

what third world country do you live in bud, not being a jerk but have you heard of Craigslist, eBay, your local newspaper, they made thousandths of these Mustangs and you can't find one, watch speed Channel and call in to bid on some of those high end auctions if nothing else is up to your specs, LOL sheesh it's like the most popular Muscle car and you can't find one? ok deep breath and find my center

[Gregski]

Originally Posted by 67ATX So tomorrow i'm gonna pick up some 1971-76 351 windsor heads for $50/each and drop them off to get a valve job.

Not all 351 Windsor heads were created equal. We've all heard of the common mod of mounting 351 heads on a 302 block and expecting better performance. Well I thought so too, I mean bigger is better right? Not exactly. There were two different 351 heads, here are the specs:

69-77 The Good Ones

Combustion Chamber - 60.4
Intake - 1.84
Exhaust - 1.54


78-80 The Not So Good Ones (Same as the 77-87 302 heads)

Combustion Chamber - 69.0
Intake - 1.78
Exhaust - 1.45


So if you get the latter ones all you are doing is creating more work for yourself since you will need special bolts to bolt them down with as the 351 heads used bigger bolts. Just trying to help.

[Gregski]

Originally Posted by 67ATX ...I swung by Mike's mustang shop to pick up some 351W heads to replace the ones that came outta the boat. We found a pair and decoded them, they're 1978 351W. $50/each

Nooooooooo.... these are same as the 302 heads and worse than your old ones.

Originally Posted by 67ATX The old heads were 1976 351W.

Ah yes, the good ones!

Originally Posted by 67ATX he handed me a 1 piece tower support. Hot damn! *Free*

Nope, actually $50 see first comment above, lol

Originally Posted by 67ATX On our way back through the property I spotted a 5 blade flex fan and grabbed that too *Free*

Nope, actually $50 see first comment above, lol

Originally Posted by 67ATX On Tuesday I'll be dropping off these 78 heads and the intake to the machine shop to get cleaned up and do a valve job.

Please don't, punt on them, they are just your 302 heads but require special bolts to mount up to the 302 block.

Man I am not being a jerk, I love this thread and I want to see you succeed, but you got screwed on the heads. So if you need heads look for some GT40P heads from a Ford Explorer.

[67ATX]

Originally Posted by Gregski Nooooooooo.... these are same as the 302 heads and worse than your old ones. Ah yes, the good ones! Nope, actually $50 see first comment above, lol Nope, actually $50 see first comment above, lol Please don't, punt on them, they are just your 302 heads but require special bolts to mount up to the 302 block. Man I am not being a jerk, I love this thread and I want to see you succeed, but you got screwed on the heads. So if you need heads look for some GT40P heads from a Ford Explorer.

I thought the "Good" heads were only 69-70? You aaare correct about the head bolts, they run $35 more than regular 302 head bolts. When I picked them up, he had 3 other sets of 351W heads. Im thinkin i'll swap these 78s for a different set, now knowing the situation at hand. What're the specs on those gt40Ps?
Thanks Gregski

[68rod]

Nice progress!!!

Im doing the exact swap to my 67! use to be a 6 cyl and i just picked up a 302 last weekend!

Have a few questions! Where did you get your motor mounts from? And are they just bolted in or welded?

And any advice you can give me?

[67ATX]

The motor mounts are bolt on. I got the mounts used for $100 from a classic mustang shop and the rubber part of the mounts from mustangone for $36. You will ATlEAST need to put a 1"-1 1/8" sway bar and V8 coil springs on the front, get a V8 radiator, V8 Z bar for the clutch linkage and V8 throttle linkage. I plan on using the 3spd for now, so I got a 289 bell housing and clutch and it'll bolt up to a SBF.

[67ATX]

Update: I bought a pair of C9OE heads and dropped them off at the machine shop. Just playing the waiting game now...

[Tigerwhite1]

Awesome stuff man. Keep posting the pics and the updates

[xmustanguyx]

Nice work, can't wait to see the end result!

[67ATX]

Here's the bell housing after I cleaned it up - $125

The clutch kit - $100

This is the dizzy that came outta the boat, I'm gonna slap a new cap n rotor on it and see if it works. The points still look good

Here's the 5 blade flex fan (still dirty) The new rubber mounts ($32) and the Z bar ($45)

The clutch release arm and boot - $73

The clutch release spring - $10

These are the valve covers I bought from Mike - $40

Edelbrock 1405 - $100 used


I noticed there's not a bracket for the manual choke on this carb. Where would I find one? Or will I have to convert to electric?

[Gregski]

Finally an update, Christ I've been going through withdrawals!!! Don't ever let us go almost a week without a post...

Originally Posted by 67ATX This is the dizzy that came outta the boat, I'm gonna slap a new cap n rotor on it and see if it works. The points still look good

TWO WORDS:Petronix IGNITOR

it will be the best $80 bucks you ever spend...

[67ATX]

So that's kinda like putting Iridium points in your dizzy? Assuming that were possible.

And yes, I noticed my thread slipping down the 1st page so I decided to take some pics today haha. I'm still just waiting on this damn machine shop. I believe the cylinders are bored and sleeved. No status updates on the heads, I don't even know if they'll be usable yet: therefore I can't order the master engine rebuild kit just yet. I plan on cleaning up the oil pan and 5 blade fan next. You bet yer ass there'll be pics up as soon as I do.

[67ATX]

UPDATE 5-12-11

Today the machine shop called and confirmed the C9OEs will work with a valve job. So I called Mabbco in Tyler, Tx and ordered this engine kit for $312 w/tax & shipping. Ford 302 5.0 Master Engine Rebuild Kit 1968-1982 2pc. | eBay
The kit should arrive on wednesday.
Hopefully the flat top pistons will get me closer to 9:1 compression.
I was told the block should be done by the middle of next week.

[Gregski]

great update, I am excited for you, I didn't see the specs on the cam, do you have them?

[67ATX]

Originally Posted by Gregski great update, I am excited for you, I didn't see the specs on the cam, do you have them?

It'll be a custom ground, stock cam. I can't remember what brand it is and the ebay description is not very descriptive.
So now I just need to order an edelbrock carb spacer, electric choke conversion, throttle linkage, a correct 67 water pump, and a few return/assist springs. I'm also considering replacing every engine bolt with some ARPs. Also, once the heada are installed i'll need to measure what push rod length i'll need and order those. Thats about it... I'm gettin pretty excited

[luster]

Nice build

[BA Mustang]

I used Trick Flow head bolts, but rest of my bolts were ARP.

[Frankenstank]

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I noticed there's not a bracket for the manual choke on this carb. Where would I find one? Or will I have to convert to electric?[/QUOTE]

Convert to electric choke. Manual is a PITA. While trying to warm up the engine.

[Gregski]

17 days without an update, and your thread fell off the front page, the natives are getting restless man, restless... oh I get it you went to see Hangover II, well what did you think of it?

[67ATX]

Originally Posted by Gregski 17 days without an update, and your thread fell off the front page, the natives are getting restless man, restless... oh I get it you went to see Hangover II, well what did you think of it?

It's been an eventful work vacation, I went to south padre for a week and then stayed at the lake for another 3 days. The remaining 4 days were just recovering

Though I did call the machine shop today; they claim to have it finished by the end of the week. It's about damn time

And yes, I did see Hangover II. It's the same movie just more epic.. and Stew gets banged by a tranny