[migg400]

I know that there are several folks on this forum and in the stang community that has done swaps with Termi motors and Coyotes. I have decided that I would go ahead and make my 67 fastback happy by stuffing a Termi or Coyote in. I know that there are front ends, clips, coilover kits, notching kits, etc. made by companies such as TCI, TCP, DVS, and various others. I did some searching and found a company called AJE Racing that offers a Tubular K-member specifically made for 4.6 and 5.4 swaps into our classics. Has anyone ever heard of them or used their products. I gave them a call earlier today and the rep that I spoke to said that I could use spindles, brakes, and steering rack from a 87-93 or 94-04 stang of course with a coilover conversion. I have exactly these various parts left over from my 01 that I recently parted out (thats why I'm curious).

Any suggestions? I have followed other posts, but didnt want to intrude on the builds with too many questions.

Here is the AJE link: 64-70 Mustang

[Durr4456]

I tell you what, buy both of them, and which ever one you don't use, give to me

[migg400]

LOL!!!!

Decisions, Decisions!!!

[MustangOne]

I never saw the AJE Racing before. The thing is you still keep part of your shock tower. Loss of some room.

I have used a few of them, Rod & Custom, Heidts, TCP and Favorite one still is the TCI set up. It fixes the front frame rails flex and Lowers the weight in the car a foot. And remover the shock towers completly, add room that you need.

[67svtstang]

If you read my recent post on my second build, TCI does not make mounts that align any of the modular blocks correctly in the engine bay. If you use their mounts, you will have to cut out portions of the firewall and the transmission tunnel and you will not have clearance for the heater/ac system at the firewall and you will have to spend about a grand on a hydroboost system because a power brake or standard master cylinder will not work.
I would look into rod and customs. They are further along with catering to the modular conversion crowd. The TCI salesman will lie to you to sell you their product, and that might go for other companies as well, so if you call any of them to discuss their products, make sure you talk to those at the company that actually know the products. removing the shock towers is a must though!!! The notching kits are a waste of time and money and will only cause headaches.

Also, if you want to keep costs down, i would go with a complete pull out package from a wrecked car. Things like fuel pumps, alternators, belts, pulleys, radiators, hoses, thermostats, etc. add up quickly.

[migg400]

I have followed your previous posts and got some really great tips!. My plan is to find a Termi engine with all of the components to swap in (going with the place you suggested in the PM). I'm just still a bit confused as to what I want to do as far as the front suspension?? I do know that there will be the need to clear the shock towers. I was looking into a few strut type coilovers, as well as kits that still use the upper control arms. As far as cost I was trying to use parts that I have left from my 01 stang such as brakes and steering rack. I still have spindles, brakes, steering rack, etc...

[67svtstang]

I dont see how it is possible to still use the upper control arms and have clearance for the exhaust. Trust me, its not worth it. I would just go with the rod and customs or the TCi front and have someone fab up engine mounts for you. Or you can take the TCI mounts and cut them and move the engine forward to where you want it, mark them, and have someone reweld them. I would avoid the strut type coilovers-too much money for too little suspension.

[migg400]

I'll look into one of those set ups and try to decide. Another issue is knowing what spindles are used with some of these kits??. Of course I already have wheels that I purchased and want to make sure that I can still use them once I convert to a new front set up. A lot of these parts I purchased over the last few years with the intent on using a 351W engine. Since I have decided to go with a Termi or Coyote, it looks like I will have to sell off parts to make changes.

[67svtstang]

Originally Posted by migg400 I'll look into one of those set ups and try to decide. Another issue is knowing what spindles are used with some of these kits??. Of course I already have wheels that I purchased and want to make sure that I can still use them once I convert to a new front set up. A lot of these parts I purchased over the last few years with the intent on using a 351W engine. Since I have decided to go with a Termi or Coyote, it looks like I will have to sell off parts to make changes.

Most of the companies make their own spindles, so they are not something you will find off the shelf or in a junkyard.

[69FB]

You could also look at the Griggs Racing Suspension. It uses the original mustang spindles and power rack.

[migg400]

Thanks for the tip!! I did check out the GRIGGS set-up and it looks pretty cool. I may keep that in mind once the time approaches....

[blksn8k]

You might want to check out a recent episode of Hot Rod TV. Gateway Classic Mustang did a Coyote swap into a 69 fastback. As far as the swap parts, they used the notched shock towers from Dynacorn along with their own strut type front suspension. That allowed them to maintain the structural integrity of the unibody. That also kept the steering rack behind the front suspension, in the stock steering location. They used a prototype Canton front sump oil pan to clear the crossmember and steering. Overall this looks to me like the cleanest way to go with a Coyote swap. I have been thinking about doing the same thing to my 68 Cougar.

Building the Baddest Boss: '69 Mustang | Hot Rod TV and AutoTrader Classics - YouTube

Building the Baddest Boss: '69 Mustang | Hot Rod TV and AutoTrader Classics - YouTube

[GPR]

TCI will have a new crossmember and mounts for a Coyote soon. We will be installing one in a 1966 project car for Modified Mustangs & Fords magazine as soon as the parts get here.

[67svtstang]

Apparently it is already out.

[migg400]

Thanks for the tips guys. Now that tax time is approaching, I can sell off the rest of my parts and hopefully buy everything that I need including the engine and trans.

[Emperor Cassius]

I have been thinking about stuffing a new 302 Boss crate in a 68 coupe so thank you all for the great info. Lots of research ahead for me to get it right. Thanks again.

[migg400]

Sounds like a plan!!! Best of luck to you. I'm still gathering ideas and making a parts list.

[67svtstang]

[QUOTE=blksn8k;4160735]You might want to check out a recent episode of Hot Rod TV. Gateway Classic Mustang did a Coyote swap into a 69 fastback. As far as the swap parts, they used the notched shock towers from Dynacorn along with their own strut type front suspension. That allowed them to maintain the structural integrity of the unibody. That also kept the steering rack behind the front suspension, in the stock steering location. They used a prototype Canton front sump oil pan to clear the crossmember and steering. Overall this looks to me like the cleanest way to go with a Coyote swap. I have been thinking about doing the same thing to my 68 Cougar.


That is not the way to go, trust me. Been there and done that. On my second build, i can lower the motor in and out by myself and there is plenty of room for the headers, wiring, air intake, etc. Note how there are 4 people trying to keep that motor from playing ping pong ball off the shock towers. Keeping the shock towers is a mistake. The front suspension they are using is the RRS kit. Oh, and those guys are full of it, anybody can buy the Shelby Baer Brakes, or save 300.00 and just buy the baer calipers without the shelby logo. I love how they act like the name on the side of caliper makes the caliper function better.

[migg400]

I have decided to ditch the towers!!. I have seen one too many set-ups with literally "no room" under the hood to work with. I'm guessing TCI, Heidts, or Rod & Customs IFS. I think one of them makes the front suspension with a special crossmember to fix the oil pan problem that some folks run into. I am really leaning towards the Termi engine, but the Coyote does look very appealing.

[67svtstang]

Originally Posted by migg400 I have decided to ditch the towers!!. I have seen one too many set-ups with literally "no room" under the hood to work with. I'm guessing TCI, Heidts, or Rod & Customs IFS. I think one of them makes the front suspension with a special crossmember to fix the oil pan problem that some folks run into. I am really leaning towards the Termi engine, but the Coyote does look very appealing.

TCI has their new crossmember and motor mounts out now.