[460brevill]

same thing i said mustangone.looking for a lot from a little.

[built351w]

you can make a 289 hit 400hp easily my friend, but it won't be a street machine..... RPM's are key!!! Someday I want to spend a ton of money on a 289, my plan would be this.

Dart block, trick flow heads, weber carbs and obv the best crank, rods and pistons money can buy..... Get that puppy to turn at 10,000+rpm's with 12.5:1 compression!!! That's how you get a 289 to make more than 400hp my friend.....

[Vinyl66]

if i end up stroking it ill just use my 302. its already bored.030.

and have you used the procomps before? ive been told to stay away from them by a few locals

[460brevill]

yes,you can hit 400hp,but he only wants to spend 3000.00.a lot for a little.

[69fastback]

Originally Posted by built351w you can make a 289 hit 400hp easily my friend, but it won't be a street machine..... RPM's are key!!! Someday I want to spend a ton of money on a 289, my plan would be this. Dart block, trick flow heads, weber carbs and obv the best crank, rods and pistons money can buy..... Get that puppy to turn at 10,000+rpm's with 12.5:1 compression!!! That's how you get a 289 to make more than 400hp my friend.....

You won't have one that will last very many miles if you're twisting 10,000 RPMs.

As I said previously, horsepower doesn't blow up engines, RPMs do.

[MustangOne]

If you stroke your 302 with the build that I posted, the 331 be a Great Motor that will last. and can make 400hp and live. Good Luck,if you like to see some of my motors go to my site and watch the video's. I am not new to this quest of yours.

[built351w]

Originally Posted by 69fastback You won't have one that will last very many miles if you're twisting 10,000 RPMs. As I said previously, horsepower doesn't blow up engines, RPMs do.

yeah this is true, but Shelby made his last in the 1960's, pretty sure an engine almost i dentical to the one i want to build was used on the daytona coupe, it spanked the ferrari's in the 24 hour lemans race in 1965 I believe...... If you can get one of them to hold up to 24 hours of balls to the wall racing i'm pretty sure it would last a while with good maintinance right?

BTW this would be a moonshine running car, no traffic to worry about at 2am and it's not like I'd be stopping right??? hahaha just kidding, well maybe I might need a side job if gas hit $4 a gallon!!!!!

[69fastback]

Originally Posted by built351w yeah this is true, but Shelby made his last in the 1960's, pretty sure an engine almost i dentical to the one i want to build was used on the daytona coupe, it spanked the ferrari's in the 24 hour lemans race in 1965 I believe...... If you can get one of them to hold up to 24 hours of balls to the wall racing i'm pretty sure it would last a while with good maintinance right? BTW this would be a moonshine running car, no traffic to worry about at 2am and it's not like I'd be stopping right??? hahaha just kidding, well maybe I might need a side job if gas hit $4 a gallon!!!!!

The 289 is a great engine, and it's capable of turning some RPMs, but be sure to put a solid cam and lifters in it. There's nothing like the sound of a solid cammed engine wrapping up

[MustangOne]

The 1964 / 1965 Daytona coupe was a 390 hp@6750 rpm

The Shelby Cobra
Daytona Coupe
Specifications 1964 & 65Total Built 6EngineTypeV-8,iron block, water cooledHeadCast iron, removableValvesOverhead, pushrod/rocker-actuatedMax BHP390 @ 6,750 rpmMax Torque341 lbs-ft @ 4,000 rpmBore4.05" (101.6mm)Stroke2.87" (72.9MM)Displacement289cid, 4736ccCompression Ratio10.8:1Induction system4 Weber 48 IDAExhaust systemStandard, dual exhaustElectrical system12-volt distributor systemChassisFrameladder type steel tube BodyaluminumFront and rear suspensionIndependent front and rear, with A-arm, transverse springs, Koni tube type adjustable shocks, anti-roll (sway) bars front and rearTire typeGoodyear Stock Car SpecialTire Size

Front6.70 x 15"Rear8.20 x 15"

WheelsMagnesium alloy rims, front 15.0x6.0", rear 15.0x8.0"

Weights and MeasuresWheelbase90.0"Front track51.5"Rear track52.5"Overall height49.0"Overall width61.0"Overall length151.5"Crankcase10 quartCooling system20 quartGas tank35 gallonsWeight Distribution53/47Curb weight

Curb2,300 lbs.Test2,430 lbs.

ClutchTypeSingle dry discDiameterActuationMechanicalTransmissionTypeBorg Worner T-10M Four speedRatios

First2.32:1Second1.69:1Third1.29:1Fourth1.00:1

Brakes

Front11" Girling discsRear10.0x2.5" drum

Steeringrecirculating ball

DifferentialRatios3.09:1Drive axles - typeEnclosed, semi-floatingSteeringTypeRecirculating ball, 19:1 ratioTurns, lock to lock2.75Turning circle34 feetPerformanceTop Speed198 mph @ 7,000 rpm3rd gear142 mph @ 7,000 rpm2nd gear112 mph @ 7,000 rpm1st gear85 mph @ 7,000 rpm0-301.73 sec0-402.40 sec0-503.03 sec0-60 4.01 sec0-704.90 esc0-805.93 sec0-1008.81 secQuarter mile12.12 sec @ 112mphEstimated Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price $15,000. No cars were sold. All were built to be raced. The cars were painted in different colors for the races they participated in. The basic color was Viking Blue and Guardsman Blue. Black was also an available color.
Six cars were built, only five are accounted for. The first car, CSX2287, has not surfaced. (New information, this car has been located, read the story here.)The Cobra Daytona Coupe information was collected from many sources, all resources are listed on the books and publications.

This page designed and written by Dennis Begley for Donabee Web Productions.
All Rights Reserved, 2001
Last updated Tuesday, March 08, 2005

[built351w]

Wait mustangone, are you saying that the 65 Daytona Coupe had a 390 engine?? or are you just showing the specs? Your wording is " The 1964 / 1965 Daytona coupe was a 390 hp@6750 rpm" so you just have me a little confused........ it was a 289, but i guess it only turned to 7000rpms...

[460brevill]

i think he is saying 289 and 390 hp@7000 rpm.

[Vinyl66]

mustangone you've done a similar build on a 331 before producing 400hp? im just wondering because i ran the specs on a dyno simulator and it showing 370hp peak

[MustangOne]

lol, Vinyl... You make me laugh...

The build that I show you is the most you can get out of a 302, and drive it to school still, for under 3k.
Now if you really want to get over 400 hp all you have to do is spary it. 75hp shot would be fine on this build.

But with all good power, you will find the weaks links in your drive line.

[Vinyl66]

what can i say i guess everything i say is funny

[MustangOne]

We have alot of guys that are Looking for power on a budget.

This build Ive told you about is one that we have built 3 time now. For a little motor its alot of fun. I have this same build in my Lime Green 1965 Fastback Mustang. and it is a 347 Stroker. If you have drove a car with over 300 Real hp you will know that its alot of power for a car that dosnt have room for rear tires. My 65 have 245/45/17 on the rear of it and it just spins. With 347 Stroker cooling is a issue in a 1965/66 radator is just to small.

With the 331 the bore is only .30 over witch is the biggest you need to bore a 289/302 for a 65/66.

If you like you can pick my brain for anything else you need to know.

I just like for you to get what you like out of your car and know what all is involved in it befor you send your money.

[460brevill]

on page one i suggested the 347 stroker kit.they didnt listen to me either.i have been building for 40 years and that kit is rad if done right.i agree with mustangone.

[jspagna1]

Car Craft had a good article on getting 400 HP out of a stock cammed 302 by only adding Heads, Headers, And Rocker Arms.

Ford 302 V8 Engine Buildup- Car Craft Magazine

[nba1341]

Originally Posted by 460brevill on page one i suggested the 347 stroker kit.they didnt listen to me either.i have been building for 40 years and that kit is rad if done right.i agree with mustangone.

i listen

[Vinyl66]

Originally Posted by 460brevill on page one i suggested the 347 stroker kit.they didnt listen to me either.i have been building for 40 years and that kit is rad if done right.i agree with mustangone.

who wasn't listening? i just wanted to know if it could be done with stock displacement. and i was asking specific questions on the stroker build from mustangone

[460brevill]

i here you vinyl.if you cram that kit in your car,hold on to your draws.