What do ya think?

AnimalCrackers · January 26th, 2009, 12:26 PM

If Obama is able to allow various states to enforce tighter emission regulations on cars, I'm seriously doubting GM's ability to release the Camaro, probably the same would hold true for a 5.0 GT in 2011. You think GM would still release a Camaro with a downgraded engine? or perhaps with more limitations in place via the computer (which could be removed aftermarket)? I would like to see the new fish released, but don't see it happening if emissions get cut down even further in large selling states like california.

atlacatl213 · January 26th, 2009, 12:34 PM

That's what worries me, even though I'm not in the market of buying another stang any time soon. I would suck to see it pass and then they would have to downgrade the quality the companies were already shooting for. It sucks more for us here in Cali since they're tightwads about emissions here. Regardless there's still going to be a way to get around it in the aftermarket but it would be harder to keep the cars emissions legal

MSO · January 26th, 2009, 12:43 PM

sucks for the hand-me-down market in 5-10 years

you know, the people that buy used cars instead of the brand new ones

AtlanticBlue99 · January 26th, 2009, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by MSO

sucks for the hand-me-down market in 5-10 years

you know, the people that buy used cars instead of the brand new ones

The "hand-me-down" market is professionally referred to as the Used-Car Market, the Pre-Owned Vehicle Market, and the Second Hand Car Market. ModdedMustangs is a professional site, and we encourage the use professional jargon.

AnimalCrackers · January 26th, 2009, 01:05 PM

A lot of times, an older car can file for exemption under lower emissions standards so long as it was produced before those standards were enforced. If you aren't able to file for exemption, I believe there are also methods of getting reimbursement for bringing your car up to standard.

03_StangGuy · January 26th, 2009, 01:29 PM

I dont see the restrictions happening at least not how they are proposing it. There would be no structure for manufacturers to follow. They can build a car and then a state can change reg when ever they want I dont think so.

atlacatl213 · January 26th, 2009, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by AnimalCrackers

A lot of times, an older car can file for exemption under lower emissions standards so long as it was produced before those standards were enforced. If you aren't able to file for exemption, I believe there are also methods of getting reimbursement for bringing your car up to standard.

I see, that would be nice for my friend since his Camaro is 1979 and standards were probably crap back then. I might have to do a bit more research and see what we could do for his car then.

Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99

The "hand-me-down" market is professionally referred to as the Used-Car Market, the Pre-Owned Vehicle Market, and the Second Hand Car Market. ModdedMustangs is a professional site, and we encourage the use professional jargon.

Yare yare, and how does this contribute to this discussion? I don't suppose cussing and belittling people is part of being professional as well?

Least he got the point across.

Now tell me, how do you really feel

AtlanticBlue99 · January 26th, 2009, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by atlacatl213

Yare yare, and how does this contribute to this discussion? I don't suppose cussing and belittling people is part of being professional as well?

Least he got the point across.

Now tell me, how do you really feel

Because I cussed? I am just adding searchable keywords to the thread...

atlacatl213 · January 26th, 2009, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99

Because I cussed? I am just adding searchable keywords to the thread...

Not you specifically but people in general.

As for putting in keywords for making this thread appear in search, I say touché.

Genevieve! · January 26th, 2009, 02:11 PM

wait a minute, Is Obama thinking of this ? .Im gonna have to google this bullshit. I live in Ca, the most strict emissions state in the United states, its hard enough as it is.

atlacatl213 · January 26th, 2009, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by GenevieveD

wait a minute, Is Obama thinking of this ? .Im gonna have to google this bullshit. I live in Ca, the most strict emissions state in the United states, its hard enough as it is.

Believe it my dear

Obama clearing way for California emissions waiver - Los Angeles Times

AnimalCrackers · January 26th, 2009, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by GenevieveD

wait a minute, Is Obama thinking of this ? .Im gonna have to google this bullshit. I live in Ca, the most strict emissions state in the United states, its hard enough as it is.

The jist of it is that he would allow states who want to impose stricter emissions standards, to do so. As it is now, EPA regulates it all.

Genevieve! · January 26th, 2009, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by AnimalCrackers

The jist of it is that he would allow states who want to impose stricter emissions standards, to do so. As it is now, EPA regulates it all.

well CA is a blue state so we're pretty much fucked here. Next thing you know were gonna have to smog our pre-75 Vehicles

AnimalCrackers · January 26th, 2009, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by GenevieveD

well CA is a blue state so we're pretty much fucked.

it's among the 14 states listed that want to apply stricter standards on the auto industry.

stangfreak · January 26th, 2009, 02:20 PM

welcome to 1974

Genevieve! · January 26th, 2009, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by stangfreak

welcome to 1974

EXACCTLY!! I just said this to my boyfriend

Goodbye Horsepower and fuel efficiency

atlacatl213 · January 26th, 2009, 02:32 PM

I'm moving to Arizona and registering my cars (when I get more) there

Actually... We have a place there so I think I can!

I'll just stay here for school though

But they best not put no more emission regulations for the meantime, this Mexican will be sad

Dansby · January 26th, 2009, 03:26 PM

Texas FTW! haha. No "real" emissions restrictions.

04mustang232 · January 26th, 2009, 03:37 PM

lets all burn our cars and walk everywhere from now on. We can grow our hair long and wear sandals and be like jesus. Lets make computers our of bamboo, tables out of tofu, and we can sing coom bye yah (sp) while not showering because the soap can kill bacteria and well, hey, bacteria needs to live too!

Fuck emissions, they keep getting more and more strict and costing the American public more and more and more. These new laws will do nothing but continue to hurt this economy while other countries are doing nothing to save the planet.

The world is suffering from global cooling right now anyways...

stangfreak · January 26th, 2009, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by jdansby1

Texas FTW! haha. No "real" emissions restrictions.

kansas too

January 26th, 2009, 12:26 PM	#1
AnimalCrackers Hardcore Enthusiast 2007 Mustang GT 12.6@110 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kansas City Posts: 2,210 iTrader: 0 reviews	What do ya think? If Obama is able to allow various states to enforce tighter emission regulations on cars, I'm seriously doubting GM's ability to release the Camaro, probably the same would hold true for a 5.0 GT in 2011. You think GM would still release a Camaro with a downgraded engine? or perhaps with more limitations in place via the computer (which could be removed aftermarket)? I would like to see the new fish released, but don't see it happening if emissions get cut down even further in large selling states like california. __________________ Professor Crackers

January 26th, 2009, 12:43 PM	#3
MSO Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: アメリカ Posts: 5,933 iTrader: 0 reviews	sucks for the hand-me-down market in 5-10 years you know, the people that buy used cars instead of the brand new ones __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] [SIZE="5"][FONT="Arial Black"]OBEY THE FACE![/FONT][/SIZE] Edited By Moderator. Next time will be a ban.

January 26th, 2009, 01:05 PM	#5
AnimalCrackers Hardcore Enthusiast 2007 Mustang GT 12.6@110 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kansas City Posts: 2,210 iTrader: 0 reviews	A lot of times, an older car can file for exemption under lower emissions standards so long as it was produced before those standards were enforced. If you aren't able to file for exemption, I believe there are also methods of getting reimbursement for bringing your car up to standard. __________________ Professor Crackers

January 26th, 2009, 01:29 PM	#6
03_StangGuy I Poop Entirely Way Too Much Blown 03 GT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 6,917 iTrader: 0 reviews	I dont see the restrictions happening at least not how they are proposing it. There would be no structure for manufacturers to follow. They can build a car and then a state can change reg when ever they want I dont think so. __________________

January 26th, 2009, 02:11 PM	#10
Genevieve! eeeee! 2003 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Coruscant Posts: 6,242 iTrader: 0 reviews	wait a minute, Is Obama thinking of this ? .Im gonna have to google this bullshit. I live in Ca, the most strict emissions state in the United states, its hard enough as it is. __________________

January 26th, 2009, 02:20 PM	#15
stangfreak Banned MEMBER #334 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wyandotte County Posts: 1,633 iTrader: 0 reviews	welcome to 1974 __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] [SIZE="4"]"This just in....14.79 @ 92.15 is not fast"[/SIZE]

January 26th, 2009, 03:26 PM	#18
Dansby Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Orange, Texas Posts: 2,285 iTrader: 1 reviews	Texas FTW! haha. No "real" emissions restrictions.

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