[mu5t4ng]

well. I was watching youtube, piiiiamp i know. I wanted to see some rice get cooked. Well i landed on a video thats talking about Imports are able to walk on every domestic car because domestics are heavy.. I agree, domestics are heavy, but why is it that NO one but a domestic driver understands this one simple factor that makes domestics SO much better than an import


My friends

THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT (rant on rice) STOP saying your I4 can win over a v8 because guess what! if you do the same mods to each engine, throw it in the same chassis and start them from 1/4 mile i can GARUNTEE that the V8 will win. Knock knock, Who's there? 358cuin DUMBASS!

thanks for listening.

[2000Si]

No replacement for displacement?

Um... ok...

Why does a 7 liter V8 Corvette Z06 beat a 10 liter V10 Viper?


If you do the same mods to each engine... blah blah. Run what you brung. Win or lose you know what your car can do.

But hell, a cheaper import with a lot of mods could beat a brand new Mustang GT if the import owner was willing to dump a lot of money into it, adding up to the base price of the GT.

It's all about personal taste. I love to see a big fatty built-to-all-hell Mustang ripping it's tires apart. But I also enjoy watching Imports do 10s and 11s down the track.

What's the point in insulting each other? To me it just shows ignorance and a shallow mind.

I'll sit on Hondaswap and defend Mustangs all day long, but then I come here and read the same old sob/whine story about imports.

I'm sick of hearing "no replacement for displacement" because it doesn't even remotely work in the Domestic vs domestic debates anymore.

Technology > Displacement. Period.

[MustangMatt96GT]

+1
Dont get me wrong, i am a die hard mustang fan, but put the same alloys and technology in the mustang as in the hondas and you a have a real powerfull engine.

[mu5t4ng]

i'm not saying mustangs only. im saying Domestics in general.

[MustangMatt96GT]

What i am saying is that honda has the best technology with alloys and that its amazing what they can produce. I believe that it is an balance between technology and size.

[87foxbodylx]

just get over it for christ sake... ive seen 3 threads so far of import this import that bs... its nice for a few jokes, but now its just getting old. you cant argue opinions over opinions... some people prefur cars with tq so weak i could screw my wheels on, others prefer high tq.... also other reasons we have imports is not alot of people can afford a V8. so what do they do? they buy a 4-6 banger, modify the shit out of it. and whatbam, cheap insurence, but a fairly fast car... its just all the way it works. I still think if the stupid fast and the furious movies didnt come out, there wouldnt be all this "rice" running around.

[2000Si]

Originally Posted by 87foxbodylx I still think if the stupid fast and the furious movies didnt come out, there wouldnt be all this "rice" running around.

Eh... well, I'll disagree with this part at least... That ricing shit was around LONG before F&F ever came out, it just expanded the 'scene' and made it more mainstream which is why you see it so much more now.

Probably also doesn't help that, because of that movie(s), you pay more attention to these cars you see on the street than you would have had the movie not been made.

Everything is just a matter of perspective. I enjoy cars. Period.

I4, H4, V6, I6, Straight 6, V8, V10. I don't care. A nice car is a nice car, a fast car is a fast car.

Just appreciate things for what they are and you'll be 55% less likely to have a stroke or heart attack in the future.


Disclaimer: Percentages are not scientific fact backed up by any study whatsoever.

[Drgnracin72]

i agree with 2000Si on this . im not a fan of imports but a fast car is a fast car, wether its got 4 cyl, or 16.

[Drgnracin72]

oh and most import drivers if you actually respect what they have done with their car, theyll respect your mustang for what it is right back. not i realise not all is like that but i bet ya most of em are.

[ChrisJ]

I ahve to agree with SI on this...

[HMUSN]

[00vabchgt]

Originally Posted by 2000Si Originally Posted by 87foxbodylx I still think if the stupid fast and the furious movies didnt come out, there wouldnt be all this "rice" running around. Eh... well, I'll disagree with this part at least... That ricing shit was around LONG before F&F ever came out, it just expanded the 'scene' and made it more mainstream which is why you see it so much more now. Probably also doesn't help that, because of that movie(s), you pay more attention to these cars you see on the street than you would have had the movie not been made. Everything is just a matter of perspective. I enjoy cars. Period. I4, H4, V6, I6, Straight 6, V8, V10. I don't care. A nice car is a nice car, a fast car is a fast car. Just appreciate things for what they are and you'll be 55% less likely to have a stroke or heart attack in the future. Disclaimer: Percentages are not scientific fact backed up by any study whatsoever.

couldn't agree more. i've got a lot of friends that drive imports and trust me, they hate ricers too. the guys with the huge wings on FWD cars and fart can exhausts give legit tuners a bad name, just like the mullett wearing muscleheads that drive domestic musclecars and hate all imports give mustang owners a bad name.

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by 2000Si Originally Posted by 87foxbodylx I still think if the stupid fast and the furious movies didnt come out, there wouldnt be all this "rice" running around. Eh... well, I'll disagree with this part at least... That ricing shit was around LONG before F&F ever came out, it just expanded the 'scene' and made it more mainstream which is why you see it so much more now. Probably also doesn't help that, because of that movie(s), you pay more attention to these cars you see on the street than you would have had the movie not been made. Everything is just a matter of perspective. I enjoy cars. Period. I4, H4, V6, I6, Straight 6, V8, V10. I don't care. A nice car is a nice car, a fast car is a fast car. Just appreciate things for what they are and you'll be 55% less likely to have a stroke or heart attack in the future. Disclaimer: Percentages are not scientific fact backed up by any study whatsoever.

Have to agree with everything that si has said. My car club is a very diverse car club. We have had our mustangs, civics, evolutions, even had a ferrari at one point. Yea, it may be mostly American cars with 3 Mustangs, a 442, possibily a camaro, but there are some imports that are looking at my club that can dust all of our "American muscle." Celica with a TSI DOHC motor in it, awd vr4 galant runnin about 20 lbs of boost, civ hatch runnin 18 lbs. A fast car is a fast car, and a nice car is a nice car. I don't care what the owner has done to get the power, the fact of the matter is that they have it, and they use it.

[CobraStang161]

Originally Posted by 2000Si No replacement for displacement? Um... ok... Why does a 7 liter V8 Corvette Z06 beat a 10 liter V10 Viper? If you do the same mods to each engine... blah blah. Run what you brung. Win or lose you know what your car can do. But hell, a cheaper import with a lot of mods could beat a brand new Mustang GT if the import owner was willing to dump a lot of money into it, adding up to the base price of the GT. It's all about personal taste. I love to see a big fatty built-to-all-hell Mustang ripping it's tires apart. But I also enjoy watching Imports do 10s and 11s down the track. What's the point in insulting each other? To me it just shows ignorance and a shallow mind. I'll sit on Hondaswap and defend Mustangs all day long, but then I come here and read the same old sob/whine story about imports. I'm sick of hearing "no replacement for displacement" because it doesn't even remotely work in the Domestic vs domestic debates anymore. Technology > Displacement. Period.

A 7L z06 beats a viper because the new vipers suck. Put it up against a GTS and it will be different.

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by CobraStang161 Originally Posted by 2000Si No replacement for displacement? Um... ok... Why does a 7 liter V8 Corvette Z06 beat a 10 liter V10 Viper? If you do the same mods to each engine... blah blah. Run what you brung. Win or lose you know what your car can do. But hell, a cheaper import with a lot of mods could beat a brand new Mustang GT if the import owner was willing to dump a lot of money into it, adding up to the base price of the GT. It's all about personal taste. I love to see a big fatty built-to-all-hell Mustang ripping it's tires apart. But I also enjoy watching Imports do 10s and 11s down the track. What's the point in insulting each other? To me it just shows ignorance and a shallow mind. I'll sit on Hondaswap and defend Mustangs all day long, but then I come here and read the same old sob/whine story about imports. I'm sick of hearing "no replacement for displacement" because it doesn't even remotely work in the Domestic vs domestic debates anymore. Technology > Displacement. Period. A 7L z06 beats a viper because the new vipers suck. Put it up against a GTS and it will be different.

Thats not the point. The point of that is to show that "no replacemant for displacement" really doesn't hold any value anymore. Look at the differences inbetween the numbers of those cars engines. The viper obviously has more displacement than the z06. So what you just said was irrelevant.

[CobraStang161]

Originally Posted by Cricket Originally Posted by CobraStang161 Originally Posted by 2000Si No replacement for displacement? Um... ok... Why does a 7 liter V8 Corvette Z06 beat a 10 liter V10 Viper? If you do the same mods to each engine... blah blah. Run what you brung. Win or lose you know what your car can do. But hell, a cheaper import with a lot of mods could beat a brand new Mustang GT if the import owner was willing to dump a lot of money into it, adding up to the base price of the GT. It's all about personal taste. I love to see a big fatty built-to-all-hell Mustang ripping it's tires apart. But I also enjoy watching Imports do 10s and 11s down the track. What's the point in insulting each other? To me it just shows ignorance and a shallow mind. I'll sit on Hondaswap and defend Mustangs all day long, but then I come here and read the same old sob/whine story about imports. I'm sick of hearing "no replacement for displacement" because it doesn't even remotely work in the Domestic vs domestic debates anymore. Technology > Displacement. Period. A 7L z06 beats a viper because the new vipers suck. Put it up against a GTS and it will be different. Thats not the point. The point of that is to show that "no replacemant for displacement" really doesn't hold any value anymore. Look at the differences inbetween the numbers of those cars engines. The viper obviously has more displacement than the z06. So what you just said was irrelevant.

I can see it was irrelevant, but the new vipers do suck so it really contradicts what your saying as well LOL. Anyway it sounds plausible what he's saying, although its a little weird.

[Cricket]

The fact of if a car sucks or not doesn't contradict the fact that the viper engine is obviously larger. SI is a car lover, and knows his stuff. He isn't one of those guys thats knows only about one car, and I'm always up to readin what he has to say about a subject on this. Also since he plays devil advocate all the time, and I find it hilarious.

[matrixpuba]

if its a fast car, i like it. i did the inport thing and the domestic thing. had fun with both. have to say that my toyota matrix and nissan 300zx were better built cars, but i would still rather have the stang!!!

[2000Si]

I've gotta say that this board is already about 20 times more mature and sane than MF.

I was expecting to be insulted and people running their mouths about things like this after I've posted. But not here, I actually have people... agreeing... with my point of view?

what the? lol

[ByPopularDemand]

Originally Posted by 2000Si I've gotta say that this board is already about 20 times more mature and sane than MF. I was expecting to be insulted and people running their mouths about things like this after I've posted. But not here, I actually have people... agreeing... with my point of view? what the? lol

Shocking isnt it lol...Oh and there is no replacement for good engineering