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Old March 30th, 2009, 04:14 PM   #1
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FYI -

As of right now, the 5.0 is rated around 340hp for the 2011 Mustang GT. If things change, I'll let you know.

The 5.0 is still on schedule for Feb.2010. Ford almost scrapped the project due to the new regulations. If all goes well, a new DI 5.0 will follow.

A new SE is coming. Hints say a Mach1 or Boss. I'll have more details later. There is even a chance it will be released prior to the new 5.0, so if that happens it will either be a 4.6 or 5.4.
Right now, it appears it will be in the 350-400hp range.

GRWD project is dead. The next generation Mustang will be on the same platform. Highly doubt you'll see IRS.

Thats all for now.
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A Mach 1 with a N/A 5.4L and TR6060 would be SICK. Isnt the BOSS a trademarked name that cant be used again? Eitherway, BOSS 302 would be great if it was a true BOSS 302. More engine options is great and all, but I want some style changes made to the 2010 'stang before I'd ever consider a new one.

Still a 5.0 at 340 HP is clearly a conservative number, some minor "bolt ons" and it'd make some good power, although i'm sure a N/A 5.4L would be SICK too. Kinda makes me want a GT500 and remove that Supercharger and do some sick ass cams
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GRWD? What's that?

And I doubt there would be a new Boss - I thought that the rights to that name were Shinoda's, not Ford's - but a new Mach 1 would make sense.
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Originally Posted by Whiskey11 View Post
A Mach 1 with a N/A 5.4L and TR6060 would be SICK. Isnt the BOSS a trademarked name that cant be used again? Eitherway, BOSS 302 would be great if it was a true BOSS 302. More engine options is great and all, but I want some style changes made to the 2010 'stang before I'd ever consider a new one.

Still a 5.0 at 340 HP is clearly a conservative number, some minor "bolt ons" and it'd make some good power, although i'm sure a N/A 5.4L would be SICK too. Kinda makes me want a GT500 and remove that Supercharger and do some sick ass cams
I'd if they came out with that. I'd really, really, REALLY have to consider trading in for it too.


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Originally Posted by AnimalCrackers View Post
I'd if they came out with that. I'd really, really, REALLY have to consider trading in for it too.
Inorite! To be true to the Mach they would at least have to have the Shaker system like of ole which would be some seriously SICK shit, but if they follow the nice updates to the base GT that they did with previous Mach1's and with fuel efficieny "crisis" in the states and regulations, mating the 5.4L to the TR6060 like in the GT500 would be necessary to save in fuel efficiency and get the performance boost they'd expect. Hell I'm surprised that the base GT for 2010 doesnt have the TR6060 on that fact alone with some seriously conservative gearing. But having the 5.4L and TR6060 in the Mach1 would make the 5.0 GT's almost pointless. The only advantage would be claiming the 302 (even though 5.0L's is 305 cubic inches) heritage at which point we'd be more likely to see the BOSS return then a Mach me thinks. There is also the independent twin cam timing stuff which would be a huge improvement.

I will continue to dream of my N/A 5.4L with TR6060... hell I may find a way to get a hold of a GT500 5.4L and TR6060 and drop it in my 09 for GRINS. Although that supercharger would promptly GTFO my car
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I'd rather see a Mach 1 with a 3v V10, but I know it'll never happen
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i like the idea of the 5.4 N/A mach, tr6060 would be a bonus and logical for fuel economy. Now MSRP on something like that would prob be starting in the low 30s, plus options... could get expensive. But sounds awesome!

Id like to see some renderings of what it could look like.
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wow n/a 4v 5.4 with a 6spd from factory would be nuts
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Originally Posted by jlaw98gt View Post
wow n/a 4v 5.4 with a 6spd from factory would pretty much be just like an LS1 Camaro
Fixed that for you
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Originally Posted by bigpappy33 View Post
i like the idea of the 5.4 N/A mach, tr6060 would be a bonus and logical for fuel economy. Now MSRP on something like that would prob be starting in the low 30s, plus options... could get expensive. But sounds awesome!

Id like to see some renderings of what it could look like.
that engine alone is 10k
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Mid 30's for an SE no doubt.
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It might be a mach 1 and I would hope that the 5.0 could muster more than 340hp. I was hoping for the 400 hp mark.
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I heard 400HP N/A 5.0, 475HP N/A 5.4, and Aluminum Spread Bore Block GT500.
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Originally Posted by mustangfan123 View Post
I heard 400HP N/A 5.0, 475HP N/A 5.4, and Aluminum Spread Bore Block GT500.
I was hoping they would keep the GT 500 S/C'd.....
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Originally Posted by ReverendDexter View Post
Fixed that for you
Why are you still on these forums? It's modded MUSTANGS not modded "I hate everything Mustangs" Seriously, dont even compare the car to the Camaro, LS1 or not.

I heard 400 HP for the 5.0 going in the F150 and more for the Mustang, but that was a relativly old thread.

As to what a Mach1 would look like? Look at GTPONY1's car, fairly close to that if they wanted to be trueish to the original. When money permits my plans are to "recreate" the Mach1 on an S197

A N/A GT500 would be good for those of us who hate the sound of FI cars (me, and probably only me) I'd rather have a N/A beast than a beast that sounds like the GF you never wanted.

So much speculation, not enough info. DarkCandy can you go sleep with the CEO some more and get us some hard facts?
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Originally Posted by navyman8903 View Post
I was hoping they would keep the GT 500 S/C'd.....
They are, they are just changing to a aluminum block to lose 100lbs.
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Originally Posted by Whiskey11 View Post
Why are you still on these forums? It's modded MUSTANGS not modded "I hate everything Mustangs" Seriously, dont even compare the car to the Camaro, LS1 or not.

I heard 400 HP for the 5.0 going in the F150 and more for the Mustang, but that was a relativly old thread.

As to what a Mach1 would look like? Look at GTPONY1's car, fairly close to that if they wanted to be trueish to the original. When money permits my plans are to "recreate" the Mach1 on an S197

A N/A GT500 would be good for those of us who hate the sound of FI cars (me, and probably only me) I'd rather have a N/A beast than a beast that sounds like the GF you never wanted.

So much speculation, not enough info. DarkCandy can you go sleep with the CEO some more and get us some hard facts?

lol so much animosity! the Rev is just busting nuts!

fuck camaro's.. they are slow and ugly
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