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At Hot Rod magazine's Drag Week, Mike proved just how well his Duramax-Mustang combination works with a string of low 10-second runs with no nitrous, and a final 9.91-second pass once Mike turned the bottle on. Oh, and he drove it 900 miles just to get to the event. On the return trip, Mike let us know he averaged an astounding 35 mpg at about 75 mph. What's scary is that there is a lot more left in the car. On his 9.91-second pass Mike shifted late, ran out of nitrous, and had a slow launch.
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ehh, i respect the wrench time, but i am still left asking why. to each his own i guess
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yes its bad but i cant stand duramax's
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Thats awesome! I made a post in the tech section a long time ago wondering if anyone ever put a diesel in a mustang...pretty much got flamed for the idea lol...I'd love to see that car!
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ehh, i respect the wrench time, but i am still left asking why
Gobs of torque + awesome mileage.

I have no feelings one way or another towards Duramaxes, though I remember FM1R saying they were the best diesels to mod for power.

I'd probably never do this one myself - I'm too concerned about weight balance, and I'm sure that motor is HEAVY.

I just thought it was a cool swap, not one I'd seen before.
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id rock it. why not thats neat
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they might be pretty good on power but they dont last long at all and there expensive as shit to mod unlike a 12 valve cummins which you can do most mods for free and gain a shit ton of power but its whatever to each his own
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wait free mods to add power on a cummins? like what this intrest me
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neat but it'd be really nose heavy
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Originally Posted by ReverendDexter View Post
Gobs of torque + awesome mileage.

I have no feelings one way or another towards Duramaxes, though I remember FM1R saying they were the best diesels to mod for power.

I'd probably never do this one myself - I'm too concerned about weight balance, and I'm sure that motor is HEAVY.
I just thought it was a cool swap, not one I'd seen before.
I'd think heavy front end (with that much power) would be great for drag racing...It's too bad that diesel has such a bad name to the average person...I'd love to see a smaller I-6 or v-8 in diesel form to use in road racing!
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on a 92-98 cummins 12 valve you can turn the injection pump up manually its hard to explain how with out showing you but also for exhaust all you do is cut off the muffler and you have it your putting more fuel to the engine and your helping the turbo spool up quicker because of the free exhaust which has no back pressure to keep the turbine from spooling at full rpm's and also you can take the silencer ring out of the hx35 for more air flow into the turbo and a lil more whistle.Also i know they made cummins 89-92 but those had mechanical vp44 rotory pumps on them and they are junk compared to the p7100 inline injection pump, just to clarify that up.
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yes its bad but i cant stand duramax's
That is too bad they make great power extremely easily too.

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they might be pretty good on power but they dont last long at all and there expensive as shit to mod unlike a 12 valve cummins which you can do most mods for free and gain a shit ton of power but its whatever to each his own
They'll out last any Cummins motor that is modded. I like ya bud, but you don't know what you are talking about. I put 60k miles in a 700+rwhp 1600+rwtq Dmax on a stock engine. I daily drove it and beat the pants off of it everyday.

12 valve Cummins motors are expensive as fuck to build, and difficult yo mod, and cannot be driven on the street when modded. So don't start yapping, if you don't know what you're talking about dude.
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I'd love to see a smaller I-6 or v-8 in diesel form to use in road racing!
Urm, that already happened - Audi already won Le Mans with a diesel.
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on a 92-98 cummins 12 valve you can turn the injection pump up manually its hard to explain how with out showing you but also for exhaust all you do is cut off the muffler and you have it your putting more fuel to the engine and your helping the turbo spool up quicker because of the free exhaust which has no back pressure to keep the turbine from spooling at full rpm's and also you can take the silencer ring out of the hx35 for more air flow into the turbo and a lil more whistle.
It's really easy, you pop the inspection cover off, and turn the star wheel out, and put in a smaller plate. The smaller the plate the more the pump opens up. The more it opens up the more fuel it will pump. That took me 30 sec, to do so. Then again I know what I'm talking about.
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on a 92-98 cummins 12 valve you can turn the injection pump up manually its hard to explain how with out showing you but also for exhaust all you do is cut off the muffler and you have it your putting more fuel to the engine and your helping the turbo spool up quicker because of the free exhaust which has no back pressure to keep the turbine from spooling at full rpm's and also you can take the silencer ring out of the hx35 for more air flow into the turbo and a lil more whistle.
so doing all of that is going to give you a 11 second diesel? man your full of crap. when you start modding diesels to the point of getting fast, they are all expensive, and there are no free mods that make a big difference. ive got a duramax and that thing is badass. duramax is on par with the cummins in production of power and longevity, and they are both way better than a powerchoke.

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they might be pretty good on power but they dont last long at all and there expensive as shit to mod unlike a 12 valve cummins which you can do most mods for free and gain a shit ton of power but its whatever to each his own
how do you figure they dont last long? please show us your vast knowledge of diesels
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Urm, that already happened - Audi already won Le Mans with a diesel.
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Yeah I've seen that car, and love it! I should have clarified in my other post...I meant something that the average person could do a motor swap with. Diesels get a really bad rep, about the only way your going to find them is in rather small economical setups (ie golf 1.9 tdi) or heavy duty trucks...there really isn't much in between that in the commercial world.
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I would not reccomend turning up your Bosch P7100 otherwise known the almighty P Pump, unless you have an aftermarket lift pump to supply the injection pump, otherwise you'll run it dry, and burn the pump up.

Also the stock slushbox can't handle the extra power, so I wouldn't reccomend unless you plan on building your trans. Lets not even get into that, because the trans are junk, and the most expensive to build, then you might as well get into the front end of the Dodge which is also junk. Steering boxes go out around every 40k, hubs wear out prematurely. They're junk.
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Yeah I've seen that car, and love it! I should have clarified in my other post...I meant something that the average person could do a motor swap with. Diesels get a really bad rep, about the only way your going to find them is in rather small economical setups (ie golf 1.9 tdi) or heavy duty trucks...there really isn't much in between that in the commercial world.
Yeah, I'd love to see a small displacement, high boost diesel V6. That would keep the center of mass as far back in the engine bay as possible, and it shouldn't be much heavier than an iron-block V8 (which is to stay, still pretty heavy).

Who knows, with the way gasoline prices and emissions are likely to go, I bet we start seeing more diesels in the next 10 years.
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so doing all of that is going to give you a 11 second diesel? man your full of crap. when you start modding diesels to the point of getting fast, they are all expensive, and there are no free mods that make a big difference. ive got a duramax and that thing is badass. duramax is on par with the cummins in production of power and longevity, and they are both way better than a powerchoke.

how do you figure they dont last long? please show us your vast knowledge of diesels
ok look i never said anything about making a 11 sec diesel out of free mods with a cummins dont put words in my mouth and im not talking shit on duramax's ive seen nasty ones at the pulls we take our truck to but they are always talking to us how awsome it is and this and that but something always goes wrong after 15-20 pulls so weve seen.
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