[BostonPerformance]

I have a dog. She's about 6 months old and is a boxer/pit mix. I have a 9 month old son also. I knew getting her that I would have to be VERY careful in how I trained her so that she would know that she is in no way to assert dominance over anyone, ever. I was advised by a trainer who specializes in dominant breeds that I should aim to teach her to always assume that anyone she comes into contact with, animals included, is her superior and she should be subservient and obedient to them.
Well along with that I have been told to make sure she knows that I am in sole control of EVERYTHING she does, so I am. She eats only when I allow her to (2x a day) and goes out on a pretty much set schedule. I also decide when playtime, petting time, etc is.
She hasn't shown many dominance issues as far as I can see. She's wonderful with guests and the two other dogs she is allowed to play with, as well as my son.
Here's the problem. When I first got her, I could punish her simply by say showing her the item she was not supposed to be playing with and popping her on the nose. However recently she knows when I am going to punish her and runs away. This quite frankly sets off my already hairline-trigger temper. I catch her and bring her back to the (say she peed on the carpet) spot and try to pop her. She fights me and will not allow me to do it, so I end up hitting her because she is fighting me.
Well a few minutes ago she was chewing on my son's shoe and I said "no" and got the shoe and told her to come so I could pop her with it. she ran to her kennel so I went to my room where the kennel is, sat down, and told her to come, she didn't. I went to pull her out of the kennel and she tried to bite me and got my finger a little on the second try.
I need help getting this dog to not fight me. I probably have punished her a little harshly previously but I can't let her run and fight me when I am trying to discipline her.

[White99stang]

its just a natural reaction dude, she already knows what she was doing was wrong so she is running away to not get disciplined. Would you hang around and come to someone if you knew they were going to punch you in the nose. Exactly either does a dog. No dog that i have ever seen nor had has ever come to me to let me hit them on the nose to tell them no. They just run to their safe spot which is the kennel.

[Flynnster]

She knows what she did was wrong, and she knows what you are going to do to her that's why she runs away.
Also the kennel is "hers" so almost all dogs will be agressive when someone tries to enter their safe place.

Edit: White said almost the exact same thing as me.

[BostonPerformance]

So what do I do? just let her go run and hide? and what about when I have her and am trying to just say put her nose in the spot and she is fighting me?
Also, she seems to have a super sensitive stomach. she pukes and gets the runs every time i give her table food. anything i can do to help that?

[Tiller]

Bite her back if she bites you...

No I'm serious I have seen it done!

My friends old dog this was like 4 years ago, she got on the table and got food he said no went to smack her on the nose and she ran he walked after her and said NO went to smack her on the nose (not hard like whap or something) she bite him and he got on her bit her I WAS LIKE WOAH!!

So anyway she never tried to bite him again LOL

[White99stang]

dude if a dog is getting sick from table scraps don't feed the damn thing table scraps and stick to dog food. There are so many preservatives and non natural things in human food that they aren't used to it. I figured that would be simple, dog gets sick from certain food, stop feeding that food. If you get the mega shits like hurting shits from eating say spicy chili, do you keep eating and eating it. no. Your not going to be able to put a dogs face or nose into therre piss or shit if they did something wrong, thats something you do when they are puppies not almost full grown dogs. you need to read up on some training homie

[Tiller]

Originally Posted by White99stang;2349687[U ]dude if a dog is getting sick from table scraps don't feed the damn thing table scraps and stick to dog food. There are so many preservatives and non natural things in human food that they aren't used to it. I figured that would be simple, dog gets sick from certain food, stop feeding that food[/u]. If you get the mega shits like hurting shits from eating say spicy chili, do you keep eating and eating it. no. Your not going to be able to put a dogs face or nose into therre piss or shit if they did something wrong, thats something you do when they are puppies not almost full grown dogs. you need to read up on some training homie

where did that come from?

Also yeah another note according to dog professionals you have 1.3 seconds to yell/correct the dog before it does not understand what is going on.

So they say but I think dogs are alot smarter then that.
Also you might want to hire a trainer because you dont want to push your dog so far as of

1) to be afraid of you
2) be so scared to try and bite you
3) on the edge all the time since you have a kid



Edit you know putting a dogs nose in their own pee/poop has been a proven method not to do right?
Like they say thats a bad thing their are other things to do about that.

Catch them in the act yell no take them outside, or if they already did it take them to it show them the pee/poop get a paper towel and get it up then take it outside while brining your dog to show them.

(those both work I know for a fact but you have to do it EVERYTIME I know this because the girl I was talking to awhile ago was with her for a year wanted to be a vet and did these things)

[Katen]

hum i dont know how much help i will be i have never had this problem with dogs but i also never had your kind of dog. the one thing i will say is when you are training her do you praise an reward the dog with a treat or something. that is one thing that while traning my husky she understood. but i dont rub the dogs nose in there pee or crap but putting it close to it then lightly tap them on the rear gets the message across. no the biteing thing, just bite the dog back, that will show dominance an will prove to the dog that you are not messing around.

[v606er]

Edit: Boston, I'd hate it if anything bad were to happen to your son, but if you think your dog is trustworthy and gentle, keep her and love her.

v Love you.

[Tiller]

606er we're friends

but dude thats bullshit.

This is where we dont see eye to eye.

Not all pitbulls are like that man, any dog can do that!
It all comes on how you raise your dog.

Edit and if your HELLBENT on its a pitbull thing it also has boxer in it as he stated.

I know pitbulls that would kill to protect their owners children but of course you NEVER see that on the news do you?
Same with german sheperds, they have hurt kids and they will kill to protect them as well.

[silverstang]

v606er, you are full of shit. Those are actually some of the BEST pets to have around. It is actually a highly suggested pet. There are hundreds and hundreds MORE dog attacks from OTHER breeds every single year, you just don't hear about it if the news headline doesnt say "pit bull" in it somewhere.


On the training side. I heard you say "petting time"...................DO NOT have certain "times" set asside for things like this. If your dog comes around, pet it. Play with it when it wants to. FEED IT when it is hungry. Don't overfeed your dog, but you should be able to tell how much is too much to feed her. If the dog is running from you, thats not really a bad thing. It knows it was doing something wrong. It doesn't want to get hit. BUTTTT its a dog, its going to chew on things. Get stuff for it to chew on, it doesn't matter if you have a million chew toys around your house, make the dog happy.

[Smoothgrandmama]

I dont like slobber. therefore i dont like dogs.

[BakerFX4]

i am the type that has no tolerance for a dog that shows ANY aggression. My dad has owned NUMEROUS dogs, most being deer dogs and coon dogs. They were as fierce and ugly as you could get on a coon/deer but were the biggest cowards to me and my lil bro. There was 1 dog (coon dog) that showed that he would growl and give the hint that he would bite. He did it to my bro (10 or 11 years old at the time). That dog was put down right then. REGARDLESS of how good they were at hunting.

All it takes is ONE time! Thats it. Thats the way i look at it and its just WAY TOO MUCH of a liability for my kids or anyone else and their kids. Not worth it in any way to me. I was bit by a neighbor's dog a while back and it turned into a big ordeal due to me calling the owner a "fucking coward if he doesnt put a bullet in that dogs head RIGHT NOW!" Cops came and shit and ended up the pound put the dog down.

[BostonPerformance]

Thanks for all the help guys. I'll try to make this post readable for everyone.

I have two feedings for her a day and she eats her fill at these times, due to the fact that she is a 100% inside dog and I need to keep her on scheduled "potty" times.

She is housetrained but not to the extent I would like. If I feed her then get busy with my son and don't take her out for a while she will pee on the floor. I just wish I could get her to go sit by the door to remind me when that happens. I do have her sit by the door while I leash her and make her sit till I open the door but she still doesn't know to go sit by the door if she needs to go out- I'm stuck just trying to remember to take her out which in itself isn't bad but sometimes it gets busy if my son's eating or bathing and mom's not home or we have company over.

I did bite her back but I don't know how hard to do so.. I just bit her ear till she yelped a little.

And for the record I don't believe all the bad rap about pits, rotties, and dobermans. These dogs are smart, the only problem is their high energy level and their DOMINANCE issues that have to be addressed. Almost all dogs have these issues, these breeds just show it more.

I do use positive reinforcement when training, and randomly also. Like I'll call her and give her a treat for responding quickly, etc.

She's the best dog I've ever had on a leash, I've even got her to the point where she "heels" with distraction, without a leash.

And as far as human food I gave her some chicken that had been boiled in water and it made her sick. No seasoning, not even salt in the water. So I guess she just has a super sensitive stomach. She eats science diet, but I'm assuming that has more dies/bad stuff than just plain chicken.

I am going to try to end most of my negative reinforcement and focus a bit more on rewarding positive behavior and see if it helps.. but I DO NOT want her seeing her kennel as her territory. Everything in the house is MY territory and I want her to know that. I allow her to sleep there and that is all (this is because sometimes my son thinks it's fun to play in the kennel)

My main tactic if she is way out of hand is to remove her air supply by squeezing her esophagus, I know how to do this without causing muscular damage and I have been told that it is an effective way to establish dominance/control.. but she REALLY doesn't like it. Hopefully I can move away from that successfully. I will try to provide some updates, and pictures of "peanut" as well.

[GenevieveD]

Boiled chicken is ok for dogs,sometimes when I notice my dog is sickly, has the runs, or is throwing up, I make him rice, chicken and random veggies, it helps his stomach, this is what they do at the boarding kennels also, So her throwing up things like that, is strange to me, UNLESS she is allergic to chicken? (and many dogs are believe it or not)

When I come home and my dog is not at the door to greet me, I know he has done something wrong, Like pooped on the floor. He won't come to me, no matter how hard I try, he KNOWS hes in trouble already, and the raising of my voice lets him know I'm the boss. My dog is dominant, (towards other animals) there is nothing I can do about it, hes an alpha male, EXCEPT when it comes to me, he knows I'm the queen of this household. It seems like you are doing everything right, the positive reinforcements and set schedules.

Dogs bite when they are scared. She was scared of you, so she tried to get at you, this of course is not acceptable, next time try locking her in her kennel. If dogs are hit too much they tend to become hostile. They lose their confidence and resort to biting. When I catch my puppy chewing on something she shouldn't be, I scold her and replace whatever she was chewing on, with something she is Allowed to chew on. I also make sure there are plenty of dog toys around for her, and I have a few sets of them, dogs get bored so you gotta switch things up.

[vastang757]

Originally Posted by BostonPerformance I have a dog. She's about 6 months old and is a boxer/pit mix. I have a 9 month old son also. I knew getting her that I would have to be VERY careful in how I trained her so that she would know that she is in no way to assert dominance over anyone, ever. I was advised by a trainer who specializes in dominant breeds that I should aim to teach her to always assume that anyone she comes into contact with, animals included, is her superior and she should be subservient and obedient to them. Well along with that I have been told to make sure she knows that I am in sole control of EVERYTHING she does, so I am. She eats only when I allow her to (2x a day) and goes out on a pretty much set schedule. I also decide when playtime, petting time, etc is. She hasn't shown many dominance issues as far as I can see. She's wonderful with guests and the two other dogs she is allowed to play with, as well as my son. Here's the problem. When I first got her, I could punish her simply by say showing her the item she was not supposed to be playing with and popping her on the nose. However recently she knows when I am going to punish her and runs away. This quite frankly sets off my already hairline-trigger temper. I catch her and bring her back to the (say she peed on the carpet) spot and try to pop her. She fights me and will not allow me to do it, so I end up hitting her because she is fighting me. Well a few minutes ago she was chewing on my son's shoe and I said "no" and got the shoe and told her to come so I could pop her with it. she ran to her kennel so I went to my room where the kennel is, sat down, and told her to come, she didn't. I went to pull her out of the kennel and she tried to bite me and got my finger a little on the second try. I need help getting this dog to not fight me. I probably have punished her a little harshly previously but I can't let her run and fight me when I am trying to discipline her.

Originally Posted by BostonPerformance So what do I do? just let her go run and hide? and what about when I have her and am trying to just say put her nose in the spot and she is fighting me? Also, she seems to have a super sensitive stomach. she pukes and gets the runs every time i give her table food. anything i can do to help that?

Didn't read through everything so if somethings a repost sorry.

1) You NEVER call your dog to you to punish her. If you keep doing that then she will all together stop coming to you when called. If you call her to you then you need to praise her, regaurdless of what she just did. If she's running to her cage then she knows she did something wrong. Just lock her up for 20 or 30 mins before letting her back out. Think about it, would you want to have your nose stuck in a pee spot and smacked on the nose? Of course she's going to fight you. The best way to get her to stop is to actually catch her in the act and tell her no. If you try to discipline her while she's doing this she could eventually altogether stop peeing in your presence (not good if you go on long trips and make rest stops). Other than that it seems like you're doing a good job. Just remember, you have to discipline her in the act. Otherwise she won't know why she's getting punished.

2) You should never give you're dogs table scraps. Its not good for them. She's telling you this by puking and getting the runs every time you give them to her, so stop. There's a hand full of foods that are good for her however (fruits/veges, etc.) Do some research and find out what they are and test them out.

[BostonPerformance]

I forgot to mention- I do have things here for her to chew on. She has a rope we play with, a cow knuckle, and two other bones at the moment. Except for the rope, they are all regularly replaced.

I agree with not calling her to punish her now that I look at it from that perspective. I guess I don't necessarily need to physically punish her if she runs to her kennel and shows she knows she broke a rule.

I know people food is bad for dogs, but boiled chicken? They would eat the stuff raw in nature. I could see if it was breaded or seasoned but just boiled? And she does this with ANYTHING I give her. She did it yesterday with spaghetti noodles. Plain noodles. I keep saying I won't give her anymore people food but then I have something plain like that and I'm like "well.."
Guess I really do gotta stop.

[dr.gonzo]

Originally Posted by BostonPerformance I have a dog. I am trying to discipline her.

PIITB

[White99stang]

dude i know she seems trained well but you scare me with handling pets. It seems you don't love a dog and more or less just want something that obeys your every single command and does what you say when you say it and everything on schedule. Do you enjoy having a dog, i read somewhere about set petting times. I say anytime your dog is around show it as much love as possible. At least my dogs are my companions not my super obedient slaves. And i know v606r edited his post but its dumbass's like him that give pits a bad name, guys that have never owned one but just dumb and ignorant and listens to what the brain washing media has to say about them. One day people that have no fuckin clue what the fuck they are talking about will learn to keep the fuckin mouths shut, and yes i am talking to you v606r

[BostonPerformance]

I don't have set petting times, as I clarified earlier. I just was told that I should not let her decide when she should be petted/played with, that I should make it clear that those things happen when I want them to. IE she can't rub up against me expecting to be rubbed on, but I do spend a lot of time with her and play/pet her a lot. She's the best dog I've ever had and pretty much my constant companion when I'm home, I just want her to be as obedient as possible in the case that something bad does happen. I don't want to have to put her down one day because I didn't teach her right.