I'm stumped... Wanna help?

1FastFox · October 12th, 2009, 08:34 PM

Ok, my buddy has this 02 alero. Windows don't work, lighter doesn't work, power mirrors don't work, turn signals don't work. But the sunroof and dash and dome lights do. I checked all the fuses and their good but no power is getting to the window switches or power mirror switch. WTF?
I will paypal someone $10 if they can figure this out.

Notcho · October 12th, 2009, 08:50 PM

Those things all sound like items that only work with the ignition on, with the possible exception being the lighter...

The dome and dash lights should work with the ignition off, but the sunroof has me stumped, unless it is on a different circuit.

Maybe a relay somewhere that is supposed to activate those items when you turn on the ignition is stuck..

Check fuseable links (if it has them).. wires that go directly to the battery and are always powered.

Talk to him... did he plug something big into the lighter that might have drawn too many amps to blow a fuse or something? Has he messed with the electrical system recently, like a new radio or amp or something?

Blitz34 · October 12th, 2009, 08:57 PM

There are multiple fuses for these things. There are two that can shut off the alarm, windows and every power option door related, then there is one just for power locks and alarm. etc.

I'd say get a book that shows the required fuses because it may be missing all together.

second there may be a short in some wiring to one of these things.

Third, most of them have relays as well as fuses. If the relay is out, so is everything else, regardless of the fuse.

1FastFox · October 12th, 2009, 09:11 PM

Car is 100% stock. Not even an aftermarket radio. I have already checked the fuses agianst the book and they are all there and good. This one definitally has me baffled.

04mustang232 · October 12th, 2009, 09:13 PM

Mouse inside the car chewed through wires

This sounds like a headache though, good luck

CobraPhoenix · October 12th, 2009, 09:18 PM

im going to laugh so hard, when tomorrow he post on here, hey 04 your right it was a mouse

08blkgt500 · October 12th, 2009, 09:21 PM

+1 on the mouse. a damn rat chewed mine up just couple weeks ago and caused my engine to misfire. almost caused a freaking fire.

CobraPhoenix · October 12th, 2009, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by 08blkgt500

+1 on the mouse. a damn rat chewed mine up just couple weeks ago and caused my engine to misfire. almost caused a freaking fire.

lol im sorry bout the almost fire, but you have to admit the chances are slim. do you think that its a rare factory issue haha

StangGTR07 · October 12th, 2009, 09:33 PM

faulty ignition switch not giving power to said circuits?

08blkgt500 · October 12th, 2009, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by 96StangGT4

lol im sorry bout the almost fire, but you have to admit the chances are slim. do you think that its a rare factory issue haha

um it said so in the manual that if i have a blinking engine service soon light on it stated im having an engine misfire and it could cause a fire. i checked under the hood i could see a round burnt circle on the fire mat under the hood right above where the chewed up wires were...

CobraPhoenix · October 12th, 2009, 09:37 PM

+1 i had that happen before, a while ago, but i didnt have all the power options so idk if its relevant

CobraPhoenix · October 12th, 2009, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by 08blkgt500

um it said so in the manual that if i have a blinking engine service soon light on it stated im having an engine misfire and it could cause a fire. i checked under the hood i could see a round burnt circle on the fire mat under the hood right above where the chewed up wires were...

thats sucks, thats too close for comfort, i think i shoulda reread that and worded it right, i meant the rat chewin on the wires as a factory problem

04mustang232 · October 12th, 2009, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by 96StangGT4

im going to laugh so hard, when tomorrow he post on here, hey 04 your right it was a mouse

lol, i better set up a paypal account

Catfiesh · October 12th, 2009, 09:48 PM

I believe that car has a body control module(could be wrong) backprobe the module connector to see if you have power going in and power command signals coming out. Insure all grounds are good as well. Battery power to module, good grounds, no output usually = bad module... that is if it has one.. hopefully this helps

EDIT: make sure to use a wiring diagram!

08blkgt500 · October 12th, 2009, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by 96StangGT4

thats sucks, thats too close for comfort, i think i shoulda reread that and worded it right, i meant the rat chewin on the wires as a factory problem

haha yeah they should have an alarm that shoots rats in the engine bay

CobraPhoenix · October 12th, 2009, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by 08blkgt500

haha yeah they should have an alarm that shoots rats in the engine bay

lol i can imagine what the dash light would be...

Blitz34 · October 12th, 2009, 10:00 PM

Wow I guess I was wrong. Its definitely a mouse/rat problem.

CobraPhoenix · October 12th, 2009, 10:03 PM

lol ok im done jackin the thread my bad yall

Lefty · October 12th, 2009, 10:06 PM

1FF, I can get you wiring diagrams tomorrow night if you need them...Lemme know...

futureMACH1racer · October 13th, 2009, 08:18 AM

I got beat, I was going to a say check the relay.

October 12th, 2009, 08:34 PM	#1
1FastFox Skirt Chasing Phallus Phondler Kit Car/Ducati/Explorer Nike Fast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 10,494 iTrader: 4 reviews	I'm stumped... Wanna help? Ok, my buddy has this 02 alero. Windows don't work, lighter doesn't work, power mirrors don't work, turn signals don't work. But the sunroof and dash and dome lights do. I checked all the fuses and their good but no power is getting to the window switches or power mirror switch. WTF? I will paypal someone $10 if they can figure this out. __________________ QUOTE OF THE DAY (5/25/12): “Don’t play what’s there, play what’s not there.” ‐ Miles Davis

October 12th, 2009, 08:50 PM	#2
Notcho meh ======== Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Braunfels, Tex / Seguin, Tex Posts: 5,184 iTrader: 0 reviews	Those things all sound like items that only work with the ignition on, with the possible exception being the lighter... The dome and dash lights should work with the ignition off, but the sunroof has me stumped, unless it is on a different circuit. Maybe a relay somewhere that is supposed to activate those items when you turn on the ignition is stuck.. Check fuseable links (if it has them).. wires that go directly to the battery and are always powered. Talk to him... did he plug something big into the lighter that might have drawn too many amps to blow a fuse or something? Has he messed with the electrical system recently, like a new radio or amp or something? __________________ '87 2.3 Notch with +4 cylinder mod Ass, Cash, or Grass.. nobody rides for free Black Stang Crew Member #11

October 12th, 2009, 08:57 PM	#3
Blitz34 Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.907@99.85 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,543 iTrader: 11 reviews	There are multiple fuses for these things. There are two that can shut off the alarm, windows and every power option door related, then there is one just for power locks and alarm. etc. I'd say get a book that shows the required fuses because it may be missing all together. second there may be a short in some wiring to one of these things. Third, most of them have relays as well as fuses. If the relay is out, so is everything else, regardless of the fuse. __________________

October 12th, 2009, 09:11 PM	#4
1FastFox Skirt Chasing Phallus Phondler Kit Car/Ducati/Explorer Nike Fast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 10,494 iTrader: 4 reviews	Car is 100% stock. Not even an aftermarket radio. I have already checked the fuses agianst the book and they are all there and good. This one definitally has me baffled. __________________ QUOTE OF THE DAY (5/25/12): “Don’t play what’s there, play what’s not there.” ‐ Miles Davis

October 12th, 2009, 09:21 PM	#7
08blkgt500 MM's Anti-Hardparker 2008 Shelby GT500 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: San Jose, CA/Denver, CO Posts: 10,249 iTrader: 0 reviews	+1 on the mouse. a damn rat chewed mine up just couple weeks ago and caused my engine to misfire. almost caused a freaking fire. __________________ MM Cobra Club #24

October 12th, 2009, 09:33 PM	#9
StangGTR07 What's this Photoshop? 2007 Mustang GT 5 speed Join Date: May 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,248 iTrader: 0 reviews	faulty ignition switch not giving power to said circuits? __________________

October 12th, 2009, 09:48 PM	#14
Catfiesh Enthusiast 2003 Cobra Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tejas Posts: 636 iTrader: 0 reviews	I believe that car has a body control module(could be wrong) backprobe the module connector to see if you have power going in and power command signals coming out. Insure all grounds are good as well. Battery power to module, good grounds, no output usually = bad module... that is if it has one.. hopefully this helps EDIT: make sure to use a wiring diagram! __________________ MM Cobra Club #48 Mineral Gray Club Member #12 Im what you would call a "bad influence". Last edited by Catfiesh; October 12th, 2009 at 09:52 PM.

October 12th, 2009, 10:00 PM	#17
Blitz34 Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.907@99.85 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,543 iTrader: 11 reviews	Wow I guess I was wrong. Its definitely a mouse/rat problem. __________________

October 12th, 2009, 10:06 PM	#19
Lefty Resident DJ '01 Cobra Vert. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 28,701 iTrader: 12 reviews	1FF, I can get you wiring diagrams tomorrow night if you need them...Lemme know... __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S (the daily) 2006 Yamaha R6 50th Anniversary Edition (the other toy)

October 13th, 2009, 08:18 AM	#20
futureMACH1racer I.D.G.A.F. 2009 John Deere 9670 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: United States of America Posts: 11,347 iTrader: 0 reviews	I got beat, I was going to a say check the relay. __________________ RIP Travis Bilings 5/6/1982-7/5/2011 Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

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