Kit Car or Restore a Classic?

MellowYellow · November 3rd, 2009, 10:46 PM

After I graduate college in 2 years my dad and I are going to start a project car. I'm trying to decide if I want to restore a 1st gen Mustang or Camaro or if I want to build a kit car. If I go the classic car route in will be a dragstrip/show and shine car and if I go the kit route it will either be the Factory 5 GTM or the K1 Attack. Links to the kits below. Input?

GTM Supercar

current model range | K-1 ENGINEERING

BWAL09 · November 3rd, 2009, 10:50 PM

i'm not a big fan of the GTM, but i would take a factory five coupe or roadster in a heart beat.

another car to look at if you want a kit car is the Ultima GTR. it runs on the corvette drivetrain just like the GTM and it holds the world record for fastest 0-100-0mph time at 9.3 seconds with a 720hp twin turbo LS1

MellowYellow · November 3rd, 2009, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by BWAL09

i'm not a big fan of the GTM, but i would take a factory five coupe or roadster in a heart beat.

another car to look at if you want a kit car is the Ultima GTR. it runs on the corvette drivetrain just like the GTM and it holds the world record for fastest 0-100-0mph time at 9.3 seconds with a 720hp twin turbo LS1

The performance on that car is rediculous but I'm not crazy about the looks. I don't think I could fit into it anyway lol.

zigbigadoru · November 3rd, 2009, 11:16 PM

i vote the gtm supercar

StangGTR07 · November 3rd, 2009, 11:24 PM

If you can get your hands on a nice first gen camaro or mustang that would be my choice. I'll probably have to just settle for a Year One body shell if I ever decide to do one, at least I won't have to replace any rusty panels.

08blkgt500 · November 3rd, 2009, 11:45 PM

classic shelby gt500.

MellowYellow · November 4th, 2009, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by 08blkgt500

classic shelby gt500.

Ha, I wish.

89 5.0 LX · November 4th, 2009, 12:01 AM

After I wrecked my 89 5.0 I actually contemplated putting it in storage until I could afford the Factory Five roadster.. for some reason I love the way that model looks. There is a hotrod shop by my parent's house that does nothing but restore and sell cars. They had one at some point. Affordable Dream Cars is their website. The factory 5 car is not on the site.

My dad and I are restoring his '69 SS 396 Chevelle (non door post body). His parents (my grandparents) custom ordered it for him when he graduated high school. The best thing about popular classic cars is there is always some company that sells everything for them. When you start with something very few people have seen, although it is cool in its uniqueness, finding parts can prove to be a bitch...

btw... what's the TAMUSCC all about? I've seen their cars at Sbisa, but there never were any Ford guys there.. just a subaru, a 4 door pontiac, a T/A, and a miata.

08blkgt500 · November 4th, 2009, 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by MellowYellow

Ha, I wish.

haha why not? if you are going to restore a first gen mustang, it might as well be a rare kind!

MellowYellow · November 4th, 2009, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by 89 5.0 LX

btw... what's the TAMUSCC all about? I've seen their cars at Sbisa, but there never were any Ford guys there.. just a subaru, a 4 door pontiac, a T/A, and a miata.

They are a bunch of losers. I only have that down in my sig to show i'm from A&M lol. I'm going to join bcs street when I get my car back together in a couple weeks. Shoot me a pm and i'll add you on facebook.

MellowYellow · November 4th, 2009, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by 08blkgt500

haha why not? if you are going to restore a first gen mustang, it might as well be a rare kind!

I would feel bad turning something that rare into a drag car.

08blkgt500 · November 4th, 2009, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by MellowYellow

I would feel bad turning something that rare into a drag car.

true, id probably make it a sunday driver haha

i like the idea of first gen mustang project, sounds fun. you better post up A LOT of pics when you start building!

MellowYellow · November 4th, 2009, 12:12 AM

Any other cool kit cars or opinions on kit cars as a whole? The idea never even crossed my mind until I read a article in hotrod magazine about the new factory 5 kit.

dannyboy281 · November 4th, 2009, 03:35 AM

i saw a really cool kit car that was a roadster that ran a small block chevy 350 but was amazing in looks, performance, weight....it was on the show supercars exposed on speed it was green i for got the name of it but it was really cool

1FastFox · November 4th, 2009, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by MellowYellow

The performance on that car is rediculous but I'm not crazy about the looks. I don't think I could fit into it anyway lol.

THe performance of a kit car is however you make it.

But my vote goes to the fact 5 kit build but I guess my opinion is slightly bias on this...

JBIGBOOTSY · November 4th, 2009, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by MellowYellow

After I graduate college in 2 years my dad and I are going to start a project car. I'm trying to decide if I want to restore a 1st gen Mustang or Camaro or if I want to build a kit car. If I go the classic car route in will be a dragstrip/show and shine car and if I go the kit route it will either be the Factory 5 GTM or the K1 Attack. Links to the kits below. Input?

GTM Supercar

current model range | K-1 ENGINEERING

restore=good resale value, and marginal fun

classic=decent resale value, good fun, good wow effect

kit car=marginal value, super fun, ans marginal wow.

this is in my opinion.

vita · November 4th, 2009, 10:24 AM

GTM for the win... thats a hot car, but realize, the pictures they show are people who drop a lot of money ontop of what they start with.

1FastFox · November 4th, 2009, 10:38 AM

^ Thats no shit... I have already dropped 15k into mine and still dont have a frame, motor, trans, rearend, brakes, ect...

Shit adds up quick, I cant remember exactly but I figured my build to come out to 35k once everythings said and done. But this is also using a GT500 5.4 and some mods, so there is 15k alone.

MellowYellow · November 4th, 2009, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by 1FastFox

^ Thats no shit... I have already dropped 15k into mine and still dont have a frame, motor, trans, rearend, brakes, ect...

Shit adds up quick, I cant remember exactly but I figured my build to come out to 35k once everythings said and done. But this is also using a GT500 5.4 and some mods, so there is 15k alone.

I thought the gtm came with everything but the motor, rearend and trans. How's the build going so far?

1FastFox · November 4th, 2009, 01:26 PM

Heres a list of the stuff you will need to get that doesnt come with the kit...
( Straight from Factory Fives site )

Major Components/Parts 1997-2004 Corvette C5

Engine, computer and exhaust manifolds

Front and rear suspension components (minus leaf springs and shocks)

Front and rear brakes, hubs, calipers and rotors (outer CV joints on rear)

Fuel tanks with pump(s) and flexible lines uncut

Radiator w/fans and plastic shroud

Wiring harness w/engine, throttle control, & ignition sections

Wheels and tires

Minor Components/Parts 1997-2004 Corvette C5

Tilt steering column w/stalks and Ignition switch

Flexible brake lines- calipers

Radiator fill tank

Wiper motor

Oxygen sensors (4)

Side & rear view mirrors

Exterior door handles and door window mechanisms

Seat belts

Vehicle speed sensor

E-brake handle/cables, Gas pedal

Hood latches w/ cable actuator

Other Components/Parts

Porsche Transaxle Parts from 1990-1998 2-wheel drive 911 models

Porsche G50 or G50 variant transmission including clutch disk, pressure plate, throw-out bearing, inner CV joints and starter.

My build is going good so far... Just getting all the little stuff organized so I can get the larger stuff going. Its all about the detials... Everytime I think I get everything setup on paper the way I want it, I change my mind on something and it changes like 10 different things. But thats just how it goes when your building something from scratch.

November 3rd, 2009, 10:46 PM	#1
MellowYellow No Homo 2002 Mustang GT New Engine! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Aggieland Texas Posts: 2,542	Kit Car or Restore a Classic? After I graduate college in 2 years my dad and I are going to start a project car. I'm trying to decide if I want to restore a 1st gen Mustang or Camaro or if I want to build a kit car. If I go the classic car route in will be a dragstrip/show and shine car and if I go the kit route it will either be the Factory 5 GTM or the K1 Attack. Links to the kits below. Input? GTM Supercar current model range \| K-1 ENGINEERING __________________ 07 GT500 & 2002 GT:

November 3rd, 2009, 10:50 PM	#2
BWAL09 Any hole is my goal! 2021 Mustang V12 Quad Turbo with nawz Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: modified88dreamer likes penis in and around his mouth Posts: 9,962	i'm not a big fan of the GTM, but i would take a factory five coupe or roadster in a heart beat. another car to look at if you want a kit car is the Ultima GTR. it runs on the corvette drivetrain just like the GTM and it holds the world record for fastest 0-100-0mph time at 9.3 seconds with a 720hp twin turbo LS1 __________________ 1989 LX 5.0 1990 LX 5.0 1993 LX 2.3 notch 1992 LX 5.0 1997 Cobra Buy one get one free. PM me i founded the founder of the cobra club

November 3rd, 2009, 11:16 PM	#4
zigbigadoru Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: lansing, MI Posts: 897	i vote the gtm supercar __________________ quote from the gathering storm: how do you fight someone who is smarter than yourself? the answer is simple. you make her think that you are sitting across the table from her, ready to play her game. then you punch her in the face as hard as you can

November 3rd, 2009, 11:24 PM	#5
StangGTR07 Enthusiast 2007 Mustang GT 5 speed Join Date: May 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 572	If you can get your hands on a nice first gen camaro or mustang that would be my choice. I'll probably have to just settle for a Year One body shell if I ever decide to do one, at least I won't have to replace any rusty panels. __________________ Got a sig? Need a sig? PM me.

November 3rd, 2009, 11:45 PM	#6
08blkgt500 Hardcore Enthusiast 2008 Shelby GT500 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,085	classic shelby gt500. __________________ MM Cobra Club #24 MMCC Official Doorman Black Stang Crew #4 Steelers 6-3 baby!!!

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89 5.0 LX Regular 1989 5.0 LX 1987 LX Notch Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Aggieland, Tx / Seguin, Tx Posts: 409	After I wrecked my 89 5.0 I actually contemplated putting it in storage until I could afford the Factory Five roadster.. for some reason I love the way that model looks. There is a hotrod shop by my parent's house that does nothing but restore and sell cars. They had one at some point. Affordable Dream Cars is their website. The factory 5 car is not on the site. My dad and I are restoring his '69 SS 396 Chevelle (non door post body). His parents (my grandparents) custom ordered it for him when he graduated high school. The best thing about popular classic cars is there is always some company that sells everything for them. When you start with something very few people have seen, although it is cool in its uniqueness, finding parts can prove to be a bitch... btw... what's the TAMUSCC all about? I've seen their cars at Sbisa, but there never were any Ford guys there.. just a subaru, a 4 door pontiac, a T/A, and a miata. __________________ The future's uncertain and the end is always near. '89 5.0 LX (5.0 swap donor car) '87 2.3 Notch (Now a 5.0 Notch)

November 4th, 2009, 12:12 AM	#13
MellowYellow No Homo 2002 Mustang GT New Engine! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Aggieland Texas Posts: 2,542	Any other cool kit cars or opinions on kit cars as a whole? The idea never even crossed my mind until I read a article in hotrod magazine about the new factory 5 kit. __________________ 07 GT500 & 2002 GT:

November 4th, 2009, 03:35 AM	#14
dannyboy281 Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT 40th Aniv coming soon Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: El Paso, Tx Posts: 660	i saw a really cool kit car that was a roadster that ran a small block chevy 350 but was amazing in looks, performance, weight....it was on the show supercars exposed on speed it was green i for got the name of it but it was really cool __________________ Accufab Upper Plenum & 70 mm Throttle Body, SLP Long Tubes, SLP Catted X-Pipe, SLP Loudmouth Catback, 91 Octane SCT-X3 Tune, K&N FIPK, Hurst Short Throw, Mach 1 Grill Delete & Chin, 18" Cobra R wrapped in Nitto 555's

November 4th, 2009, 10:24 AM	#17
vita Regular N/A Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 109	GTM for the win... thats a hot car, but realize, the pictures they show are people who drop a lot of money ontop of what they start with. __________________ Hurry up, I got things to see and people to do... MM Cobra Club #51 http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l1...Untitled-3.jpg

November 4th, 2009, 10:38 AM	#18
1FastFox MMs Official Playboy Only Time will tell... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,917	^ Thats no shit... I have already dropped 15k into mine and still dont have a frame, motor, trans, rearend, brakes, ect... Shit adds up quick, I cant remember exactly but I figured my build to come out to 35k once everythings said and done. But this is also using a GT500 5.4 and some mods, so there is 15k alone. __________________ There's no roof, no side glass, not even a radio. "That's the formula," said Carroll Shelby. "It's a massive motor in a tiny, lightweight car." Hmmm... Now theres some food for thought on a fun build.

November 4th, 2009, 01:26 PM	#20
1FastFox MMs Official Playboy Only Time will tell... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,917	Heres a list of the stuff you will need to get that doesnt come with the kit... ( Straight from Factory Fives site ) Major Components/Parts 1997-2004 Corvette C5 Engine, computer and exhaust manifolds Front and rear suspension components (minus leaf springs and shocks) Front and rear brakes, hubs, calipers and rotors (outer CV joints on rear) Fuel tanks with pump(s) and flexible lines uncut Radiator w/fans and plastic shroud Wiring harness w/engine, throttle control, & ignition sections Wheels and tires Minor Components/Parts 1997-2004 Corvette C5 Tilt steering column w/stalks and Ignition switch Flexible brake lines- calipers Radiator fill tank Wiper motor Oxygen sensors (4) Side & rear view mirrors Exterior door handles and door window mechanisms Seat belts Vehicle speed sensor E-brake handle/cables, Gas pedal Hood latches w/ cable actuator Other Components/Parts Porsche Transaxle Parts from 1990-1998 2-wheel drive 911 models Porsche G50 or G50 variant transmission including clutch disk, pressure plate, throw-out bearing, inner CV joints and starter. My build is going good so far... Just getting all the little stuff organized so I can get the larger stuff going. Its all about the detials... Everytime I think I get everything setup on paper the way I want it, I change my mind on something and it changes like 10 different things. But thats just how it goes when your building something from scratch. __________________ There's no roof, no side glass, not even a radio. "That's the formula," said Carroll Shelby. "It's a massive motor in a tiny, lightweight car." Hmmm... Now theres some food for thought on a fun build.

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