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Old November 20th, 2009, 10:56 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by catchtheroadrunner View Post
Tiller you are spot on. If someone told me they took a bunch of caffeine and then their shoulder, neck, and heart hurt, I'd have layed them down on the floor and called 911. That his heart still hurts is really troubling and he should get his tail to the doctor ASAP just to be safe. And your description of an MI vs cardiac arrest was very accurate. He could've had a small heart attack by way of a temporary clamping down of the small arteriols. This would have decreased oxygen to that small area of the heart enough to cause pain but not do any long term damage. If some bigger arteries upstream clamped down a bit, the pain would cover a larger part of the heart and surrounding area. Heart pain is felt in areas other than the heart because of the vagus nerve. I haven't read enough to understand the particulars on why the brain seems to misinterpret the data delivered by the vagus nerve, but a good example is brain freeze. The diagnosis for what you are probably talking about is stable angina or unstable angina. Stable angina is not nearly as big a concern as unstable angina. I'm certified in Advanced Cardiac Life Support (ACLS).

Poster, dude, just to be safe, go see your physician. And for the sake of the rest of our blood pressures, don't tell us the next time you take three tablets of something unfamiliar from someone who says, "Try this!" Especially if she's your beneficiary.
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4) ACLS is that considered paramedic? Or your JUST advanced in cardiac Life support?
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Old November 20th, 2009, 11:12 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by Tiller View Post
1) rep'd if I can
2) glad someone agreed with me
3) glad someone with more medical knowledge confirmed/denied my above statements
4) ACLS is that considered paramedic? Or your JUST advanced in cardiac Life support?
I'm not sure what level of cardiac life support paramedics are trained to, but it's probably ACLS (advanced cardiac life support). I'm an OR nurse and was forced to get that credential as part of a settlement with the state when the OR I was in at the time had a patient die because nobody in that room new how to work the defibrillator, not the anesthesiologist, surgeon, room nurse, or surgical technician. Getting the entire OR staff of nurses ACLS certified was one of the correction actions the hospital volunteered to take.

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Old November 21st, 2009, 02:27 AM   #23
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Originally Posted by Tiller View Post
Dont take this the wrong way bro but always check the medicine, even if my mom gives me something I always check it because she may have grabbed the wrong bottle ya know?

Also if it felt like it was going to fast it could be because obviously the caffeine and you had tachycardia heartbeats over 100bpm, so thats why your heart felt weird.

Cardiac arrest is where your arm and shoulder feel numb and tingly.

A heart attack, 90% of people who have a heart attack feel it but rub it off on its indigestion or something else, its like the heart just having a accident and most people push it off like its nothing which heart attack with obviously lead to cardiac arrest eventually..

Just saying man you may what to call your doc and tell her what happened see what she says. Again when doc gets nonlinear if I am wrong he can clear it up but we had a test on this and I aced it
Those are SYMPTOMS of a heart attack also known as "angina"...doesn't mean that person is having a cardiac arrest at that time.

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