[alovell]

Hi guys, let's discuss.

So, when I joined this site, it was because I got an incredible job, and wanted to mod the good ole sixxer. I was planning on Procharging it ... with the third power pack or whatever, and buying a Turbo Miata, just for fun (12 sec, best handling car ever for far under 10K). Any way, realizing my full opportunities, I can afford a 25ishK car now. You all know what that means: Cobra. I was ecstatic, then my friends (the same ones who talked me out of modding the V6) basically made me realize how shitty the Cobra interior/engine was. Not shitty, just not as nice (well actually- the interior sucks). So, I began looking at GTOs, the real ones, LS2 6.0l 400hp/tq. Have actually yet to drive either, but can't really decide. Right now, I'm leaning far towards the GTO.
Reasons:
1. Engine- stock for stock- same. But the Cobra has forged internals and a blower while the GTO is "stock." This means, far more modding room in the GTO. Head+Cam on GTO = best noise ever and 500+ whp. I understand you can get that easily out of the Cobra, but adding boost= much more engine strain. NTM the GTO will eventually be blown, unless 600ish whp is 'enough'- don't plan on it. Let's all agree though- NA power> FI power.
2. Interior- the GTO interior is sooo much nicer: guages, electronics, seats, size, just pure niceness. NTM- I'm sure there will be a few less squeaks and rattles.
3. Price- I'm talking about 05/06 GTOs and 03/04 Cobras. Newer, less miles, warranty, and oh yeah, newer.
4. Looks- Yeah so, the Cobra wins this one by far, but look at the V6, I work wonders on cars. No but really, I'll leave either stock, aside from full suspension work- most likely.
5. Attention- GTO grabs less- good or bad? No telling.



Let's not be gay guys, on stangnet- they all flame, noone has said GTO. Think realistically, and discuss. I really can't decide. Driving will hopefully be the deciding factor.

[SSStang]

03 cobra hands down -

And if you think a cammed LS2 is the best noise ever, I have a friend here with a KB cobra 4v + cam = pure sex

[alovell]

Reasons....???

[SSStang]

I've ridden in both
I've driven both...

Just don't like the GTO

[alovell]

Just don't like it... like power, comfort... what? Not enough body kit?

[98mustang]

This is Just a Mach 1, cobra engine minus the blower, and the mach still out preforms him!!! And interior can be changed, especially if you do wonders with cars! I would go with the 03-04 cobra it will absolutly kill a GTO in a race and can be modded to be 800hp and still be streetable.

http://www.highperformancepontiac.co...ag_strip_test/

[Bill]

im a fan of the new GTO's but wouldnt call them the real ones. they look nice and are sleeperish looking if your next to someone who doesnt know what it is.

those 6.0's do sound damn good tho.

i would be happy with either one.

[alovell]

Originally Posted by 98mustang This is Just a Mach 1, cobra engine minus the blower, and the mach still out preforms him!!! And interior can be changed, especially if you do wonders with cars! I would go with the 03-04 cobra it will absolutly kill a GTO in a race and can be modded to be 800hp and still be streetable. http://www.highperformancepontiac.co...ag_strip_test/

That's an 04 GTO buddy, not an 05... huge difference.
And..while talking to a dealership that had only a Cobra on the lot (no GTOs), I found out that their owners stock GTO out ran the "hell" out of the Cobra. That's how the dealerships in Milledgeville roll- lol.

[98mustang]

Regardless the Cobra is called a Terminator for a reason it terminated the war between the Mustang Guys and the LS1 Guys, dont make a mistake the cobra is an incredable original design!! The GTO is a austrailian car with a LS1 in it!!!!

[alovell]

Originally Posted by 98mustang Regardless the Cobra is called a Terminator for a reason it terminated the war between the Mustang Guys and the LS1 Guys, dont make a mistake the cobra is an incredable original design!! The GTO is a austrailian car with a LS1 in it!!!!

LS2- READ
And you cannot tell me the Cobra is "nicer" than the GTO.

[98mustang]

Whatever dont come on a mustang site post in the wrong thread and talk about how our interiors are shitty, you do wonders right? Buy the superior car and fix the interior!!! Case closed, they prob flamed you because it is a mustang forum and no one wants to hear you talk shit about their cars!!!

[alovell]

I haven't talked shit; I have simply compared it to a superior vehicle. If by "do wonders with the interior" you mean do w/e it is the ricers do with interiors, then my simple answer is no... it's not my job to make an interior nice, nor should I use my money to make it nice. I was not trying to argue with anyone, it just said 6.0l LS2 a few times, and could not resist pointing it out. Sorry dude, shit.

[breakout831]

Pontiac's design engineers in the recent years have blended all the cars together as far as exterior design. No one pontiac really looked a lot different then the other. Then in 05-06 pontiac put the ram air scoop on the GTO and gave it a more agressive look, which I like. I test drove an 05 when my buddy was at the dealership to buy a G35. It was a carmax (lol), and the only GTO was an automatic. Yeah, I would never buy an automatic sports car in my life, but I wanted to get a feel for how the GTO's drive. It was amazing. However, I am not bias by test driving one car. I have been in a cobra, and nutted my pants every second of the time. As much as I love mustangs, the GTO was a classy car inside and out. It has a lot of potential. The mustang looks amazing from the outside, but the inside Ford could have made better. It seems the originator of this post and I are the only ones that think differently in this forum. That doesn't make us haters, we just think outside of the box.

I say go with the GTO.

[powersrj]

I would get the cobra beacause of the potential of the motor. Sure the ls2 has potential but like you side it would need alot more mods than that cobra would to get the hp gains you want. The interior on the cobra is a little bland Ill admit but that can be changed in a few hundred dollars. And i mean it as a goog change. Not the ricy change ha.

[alovell]

I'm hardcore about clean interiors, nice is stock, and stock for stock, GTO gets it. I know yall are talking about changing the head units, seats, guages and all.. but i hate changing all that stuff- not clean at all... so basically- that's in my opinion- not nice at all. This is why my car has full audio system, but stock head unit- I couldn't mess up the green lighting or the perfect (for a Ford) sizing of the console. Same goes for guages, the only way I'll have different colors are if I'm in an Acura or Infiniti, or Cobra I guess (white face), but I actually hate all interior mods, aside from maybe throwing leather in a non leather car- but still a waste of money.

[96Snaker]

Well hell I voted for the GTO simply because if I were looking to spend THAT kind of money on a basically untouched car I'd want to be the first owner of the thing, ya know. Not to mention there is not 1 bad thing anyone can possible say about the 6 Liter LS2. You might as well say corvettes are terribly underpowered if you think badly of any LS engine. So my pick = GTO. Yeah I love terms and would trade my 96 Cobe for an 04 Cobe in a heartbeat if I could afford it, but Term vs. GTO I hate to say it (because I'm a blue blooded gentleman all the way) but I'd side with pontiac on this one.

(I'd take 'em both btw)

[alovell]

Originally Posted by 96Snaker Well hell I voted for the GTO simply because if I were looking to spend THAT kind of money on a basically untouched car I'd want to be the first owner of the thing, ya know. Not to mention there is not 1 bad thing anyone can possible say about the 6 Liter LS2. You might as well say corvettes are terribly underpowered if you think badly of any LS engine. So my pick = GTO. Yeah I love terms and would trade my 96 Cobe for an 04 Cobe in a heartbeat if I could afford it, but Term vs. GTO I hate to say it (because I'm a blue blooded gentleman all the way) but I'd side with pontiac on this one. (I'd take 'em both btw)

That's my exact standpoint, except I say I'd trade my 03V6 for an 03 Cobra- given.

[98mustang]

I mean if saying "basically made me realize how shitty the Cobra interior/engine was. Not shitty, just not as nice (well actually- the interior sucks)." is not talking shit then i guess i was wrong but do whatever you want the cobras will be flying by you with less mods and more power. And pontiac has been blending the styles but it would have been better if they wouldnt have taken a australian car already developed and put the LS2 in it, its just one of those cars that should have had the american behind it.

[BWAL09]

cobra hands down. thats a no brainer. the mustang gt puts up a good fight with the GTO.. dont let those big numbers fool you, those things are heavy too.. like said above, the cobra has more potential, not to mention re-sale value.. if you care about how people view you, the cobra is the way to go becuase its a beast.. and rare too.. there are so many people who see GTOs driving down the road and automatically think its a honda.. it just doesnt have "the look".. you can spot a terminator from a mile away and you can hear it from that far too.. as far as a race between them would go, i'd be willing to bet my life savings on the cobra.. maybe i am a bit biased, but i think what i am telling you is the truth.. the 03/04 cobra is in the top 5 of my dream car list and as soon as ican afford one, i can guarantee you there will be one sitting in my driveway.. again, this is just my opinion and you should think long and hard about what i have said and what others have said before you makea decision.. its cool if you choose the GTO, just be sure that you dont regret what you get..

[96Snaker]

Yeah there's no argument over which one looks better. Hands down the exterior styling of the Mustang is overwhelmingly more fierce and might I add georgous whereas the GTO looks like a family sedan. But I've sat in the newer pontiacs and GM definitely does up their interiors waaay better than Ford.