fed up with my car.. need help

ZoomZoomMFer · December 2nd, 2010, 04:03 PM

ok well this is where i stand with my car and i dont know where to go from here. Ive ruled out everything as far as i know. IF a car is getting fuel and spark, what else could be keeping it from starting? Just changed the plugs because i thought that i may have fouled them trying to crank the car several times with out spark. So i changed them and this is what its doing. Every time i press the gas to try and un flood the car it begins to crank very slow like you hear.

YouTube - Trying to crank

Dolbs4082 · December 2nd, 2010, 04:06 PM

have a sensor unhooked? like a crank position?

I know on my old jeep it did that until we fixed that sensor.

other then that idk man...

ZoomZoomMFer · December 2nd, 2010, 04:09 PM

as far as i know the sensor is plugged in lol

Dolbs4082 · December 2nd, 2010, 04:13 PM

yikes. is there anyway to check some of your sensors? like the cam shaft position sensor, or the crank, those would be the first two that come to my mind.

ZoomZoomMFer · December 2nd, 2010, 04:16 PM

i mean, i know theyre plugged in, but i dont know if there is any way to check if they are in proper working order.

Trick Tuners · December 2nd, 2010, 04:19 PM

There are a bunch of things that can cause a no start like that. Did this happen without any modifications or tune changes?

sharkbait · December 2nd, 2010, 04:32 PM

how do you know its getting spark.

ZoomZoomMFer · December 2nd, 2010, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Trick Tuners

There are a bunch of things that can cause a no start like that. Did this happen without any modifications or tune changes?

lol, its a 00 GT with a 03 cobra motor, with a modified GT harness with a 00 GT computer with a flashed sniper cobra tune.

Originally Posted by sharkbait

how do you know its getting spark.

took a spark plug out, put it in the coil and cranked it lol

JakeM · December 2nd, 2010, 04:39 PM

What exactly did you have to "modify" on the GT harness. That scares me.

ZoomZoomMFer · December 2nd, 2010, 04:44 PM

nothing is really "modified" coils and a few other sensors needed to be lengthened and on the coils they needed the polarity reversed, but that it as far as i know.

JakeM · December 2nd, 2010, 05:02 PM

The coils needed the polarity reversed? Did you do the modifications? What are your plugs gapped to?

quadracer786 · December 2nd, 2010, 05:10 PM

not too be a smartass but you need fuel, spark, AND compression

JakeM · December 2nd, 2010, 05:14 PM

LoL Technically you don't "need" compression in a gasoline engine. All you "need" is fuel, air and spark. It should run, however crappily (if that is a word), with low compression issues. The only engine that 'needs' compression is a diesel.

MyGT · December 2nd, 2010, 05:28 PM

I think it's something computer/harness related.

JakeM · December 2nd, 2010, 05:30 PM

Have you tried running codes on it yet? Can you barrow a handheld or do you have a sniper hand held that you can pull codes with or datalog?

jbenevides89 · December 2nd, 2010, 05:56 PM

fuel, air, and spark at the right time. one of those is off. you have ruled out the fuel and air....

ZoomZoomMFer · December 2nd, 2010, 06:28 PM

I know there is fuel air and spark like i said. Pulled a plug out stuck it in the coil and cranked it. No I haven't check for any codes because I don't have a hand held.

ZoomZoomMFer · December 3rd, 2010, 12:19 AM

think im just gonna take it up to local mustang shop. Lamotta Performance, yall probably heard of them. Just gonna have them fix the damn thing. Grandfather offered me 5k to get the damn thing running.

88TempoGLS · December 3rd, 2010, 01:14 AM

did you mess with the timing at all? could be a timing issue as well.

ZoomZoomMFer · December 3rd, 2010, 01:33 AM

nothing in the motor was ever touched.

December 2nd, 2010, 04:06 PM	#2
Dolbs4082 I Blumpkin Entirely Way Too Much 2005 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: kansas Posts: 5,959 iTrader: 0 reviews	have a sensor unhooked? like a crank position? I know on my old jeep it did that until we fixed that sensor. other then that idk man... __________________ MM + Cleavage member #22

December 2nd, 2010, 04:09 PM	#3
ZoomZoomMFer zippeewannabee 06' Mazda Speed6 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 3,211 iTrader: 17 reviews	as far as i know the sensor is plugged in lol __________________ Cobb SRI \| Eibach ProKit \| JBR Short Shift Plate \| JBR Rear Motor Mount

December 2nd, 2010, 04:13 PM	#4
Dolbs4082 I Blumpkin Entirely Way Too Much 2005 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: kansas Posts: 5,959 iTrader: 0 reviews	yikes. is there anyway to check some of your sensors? like the cam shaft position sensor, or the crank, those would be the first two that come to my mind. __________________ MM + Cleavage member #22

December 2nd, 2010, 04:16 PM	#5
ZoomZoomMFer zippeewannabee 06' Mazda Speed6 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 3,211 iTrader: 17 reviews	i mean, i know theyre plugged in, but i dont know if there is any way to check if they are in proper working order. __________________ Cobb SRI \| Eibach ProKit \| JBR Short Shift Plate \| JBR Rear Motor Mount

December 2nd, 2010, 04:19 PM	#6
Trick Tuners MM Fanatic KB'd GT Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,467 iTrader: 3 reviews	There are a bunch of things that can cause a no start like that. Did this happen without any modifications or tune changes? __________________ Check out my forums for stuff on troubleshooting, tuning, etc We teamed up with Socal Performance Racing to bring dyno tuning to San Diego. Be friends with us on FB

December 2nd, 2010, 04:32 PM	#7
sharkbait Hooo Ha Ha 1997 Mustang GT 11.65 @ 115 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pasadena MD Posts: 9,743 iTrader: 10 reviews	how do you know its getting spark. __________________ 410rwhp 520rwtq @ 12.9 psi

December 2nd, 2010, 04:44 PM	#10
ZoomZoomMFer zippeewannabee 06' Mazda Speed6 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 3,211 iTrader: 17 reviews	nothing is really "modified" coils and a few other sensors needed to be lengthened and on the coils they needed the polarity reversed, but that it as far as i know. __________________ Cobb SRI \| Eibach ProKit \| JBR Short Shift Plate \| JBR Rear Motor Mount

December 2nd, 2010, 05:10 PM	#12
quadracer786 Hardcore Enthusiast 2006 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,303 iTrader: 0 reviews	not too be a smartass but you need fuel, spark, AND compression

December 2nd, 2010, 05:28 PM	#14
MyGT Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT 13.1@105 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Houston Posts: 2,237 iTrader: 7 reviews	I think it's something computer/harness related. __________________ 2009 Super-Stangs Fantasy Football League Champion Thanks Brees!

December 2nd, 2010, 05:56 PM	#16
jbenevides89 Hardon Enthusiast 2008 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2010 Location: Columbia SC Posts: 1,722 iTrader: 1 reviews	fuel, air, and spark at the right time. one of those is off. you have ruled out the fuel and air.... __________________ Hurst Billet Comp Plus, Shortys, Violators, CMDPs C&L Racer, SCT Bama 93 Race Tune MILITARY CREW

December 2nd, 2010, 06:28 PM	#17
ZoomZoomMFer zippeewannabee 06' Mazda Speed6 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 3,211 iTrader: 17 reviews	I know there is fuel air and spark like i said. Pulled a plug out stuck it in the coil and cranked it. No I haven't check for any codes because I don't have a hand held. __________________ Cobb SRI \| Eibach ProKit \| JBR Short Shift Plate \| JBR Rear Motor Mount

December 3rd, 2010, 12:19 AM	#18
ZoomZoomMFer zippeewannabee 06' Mazda Speed6 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 3,211 iTrader: 17 reviews	think im just gonna take it up to local mustang shop. Lamotta Performance, yall probably heard of them. Just gonna have them fix the damn thing. Grandfather offered me 5k to get the damn thing running. __________________ Cobb SRI \| Eibach ProKit \| JBR Short Shift Plate \| JBR Rear Motor Mount

December 3rd, 2010, 01:14 AM	#19
88TempoGLS Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 Ford Contour SVT 15.2 @ 90mph Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Middletown, Pa Posts: 2,452 iTrader: 0 reviews	did you mess with the timing at all? could be a timing issue as well. __________________ 2000 CSVT 03 Escape 3L block, 02 Mercury Cougar 2.5 heads, SVT cams untuned. Stock manifolds, short ram intake, MSDS Y pipe, stock exhaust. 195whp/182wtq 1985 Honda 450 Nighthawk 70+MPG average 8200 miles and counting

December 3rd, 2010, 01:33 AM	#20
ZoomZoomMFer zippeewannabee 06' Mazda Speed6 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 3,211 iTrader: 17 reviews	nothing in the motor was ever touched. __________________ Cobb SRI \| Eibach ProKit \| JBR Short Shift Plate \| JBR Rear Motor Mount

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