Which diesel truck do you like?

ryanhewett466 · July 25th, 2006, 06:43 PM

This topic has possibly received some of the most diversed opinions i've ever seen. So i'll ask it on this forum. Out of Ford, GM, and Dodge, which diesel pickup is the most attractive to you? For me it's the closest choice between Ford Powerstroke and the Dodge cummins ISB.

99mustang232 · July 25th, 2006, 07:00 PM

same here, i wish you could blend the two...

stang fanatic · July 25th, 2006, 07:03 PM

as a certified med duty tech, the duramax is the quietest out there..but too many issues right now to make me want one myself. Overall, ford has the largest room in their vehicles, but engine wise, as a cummins tech, i would want the isb for power, durability and most of all...reliability

turp · July 25th, 2006, 07:07 PM

F350's are hot!

ChrisJ · July 25th, 2006, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by turp

F350's are hot!

I second that one...I want one...

Bossman351 · July 25th, 2006, 07:57 PM

Here is my fantasy choice. It is an F-650 XD. It is a Ford truck with a Cummins engine so its a great combo. They ARE available to the public but the prices start at 85k for a stripped down, rubber floor mat, manual window/lock, base model. They claim it gets about 19 mpg and can seat 8-12 in seatbelts. I LOVE THESE TRUCKS!!

In real life I may one day be able to afford something more along the lines of an F-250/350 SD. That is my dream truck. It would have to be a 4x4 with the Power Stroke. I know the Cummins is a bit of a better motor being an I6 vs. a V8 but Ive driven the Cummins (both the old one and the new one) and the Power Stroke and the Duramax. I didnt care for the Duramax and I just prefered the whole ford package over the Dodge.

ChrisJ · July 25th, 2006, 07:59 PM

^^^^

Thats a big truck...lol...I think I saw that in a magazine a while back...

Bossman351 · July 25th, 2006, 08:02 PM

Yeah, I was watching trucks on Spike the other day and they did a makeover on an 06 F250. they did a Bully Dog performance programmer with a monitoring system and a full Bully Dog exhaust and claim it added an extra 140 HP just from those 2 mods alone!! That is a lot of HP to be had from a few simple mods.

99mustang232 · July 25th, 2006, 08:20 PM

yeh i love diesels where else can you find over 100hp+ from bolt-ons?

Horseshoeing · July 25th, 2006, 08:32 PM

I like the ole 12v cummins. Others will have more power, but they will not out live it.

Drgnracin72 · July 25th, 2006, 08:35 PM

i like the cummins but the ddge trucks just fall apart aorund the engine. its a million mile motor with a 150k mile body, the duramax is nice but like someone said, still has a few problems but once youve driven one with an allison tranny, holy hell youll wan one. as for the ford i dont have any experience but i am sure they are great engines! and diesels are badass for making a ton of power. theres a guy around here with a 6 speed cummins that has twin trubos and water/ methanol injection and ive seen him run an 11.3 and have it on tape somewhere!!

Horseshoeing · July 25th, 2006, 08:38 PM

You got all of them nailed

Hwyman · July 25th, 2006, 08:40 PM

The 7.3L Power Stroke was an awesome engine. The 6.0L Power Stroke stubled a little out of the gate, but they seem to have the bugs ironed out now from what I hear. What scares me witht he Power Stroke is that the 08 Super Duty Fords are going to be redesigned and they are getting an all new Power Stroke from International (same manufacturer for the other 2 Power Strokes) that will be a 6.4L Twin Turbo. I'd either get one of the current 6.0L or wait a few years to make sure the 6.4L is ok.

The Cummins in the Dodge is a good motor, but Dodges have been notorious for transmission problems.

The only plus side I see for the Chevy/GMC is you can get it with an Allison transmission.

Bossman351 · July 25th, 2006, 08:41 PM

The only problems I have heard of with the Power Stroke is that being a V8, they are prone to having the cylinders get egg shaped and the other thing I heard was that the turbo is hard to work on being under the intake manifold.

I agree, the Allison tranny is kickass!! The Chevy I drove was a bone stock 2500 HD. I liked it and the cab was very comfortable but there was still just that little something about the Ford that I liked.

ChrisJ · July 25th, 2006, 08:44 PM

All this talk makes me want to go buy a Ford F-350SD

Bossman351 · July 25th, 2006, 08:48 PM

Yeah, its kind of re-sparked my interest in them. I got over it for the longest time but now Im getting the itch to find that perfect one again.

Hwyman · July 25th, 2006, 08:52 PM

I know, this is making me want to think about selling my 91 F-150!

Horseshoeing · July 25th, 2006, 09:08 PM

I think the new Dodge trans are ok now

Bossman351 · July 25th, 2006, 09:21 PM

I dont have any experience with the newer Dodge trannys but I had 2 Dodge 3/4 ton Diesel work trucks at my last job, an 01 and an 02. The 01 had 3 trannies and lots of front end work done all within 138k. I will say in its defense that it didnt go anywhere without a full bed of tools and parts and a VERY heavy trailer with anywhere from 3000 to 6000 lbs of equipment on it. It was an automatic.

Horseshoeing · July 25th, 2006, 09:24 PM

On the autos you have to beef them up. The six speeds are nice.

July 25th, 2006, 06:43 PM	#1
ryanhewett466 Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 112 iTrader: 1 reviews	Which diesel truck do you like? This topic has possibly received some of the most diversed opinions i've ever seen. So i'll ask it on this forum. Out of Ford, GM, and Dodge, which diesel pickup is the most attractive to you? For me it's the closest choice between Ford Powerstroke and the Dodge cummins ISB.

July 25th, 2006, 07:00 PM	#2
99mustang232 MM Fanatic 1999 Ford Mustang V6 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: newport news, va Posts: 3,745 iTrader: 0 reviews	same here, i wish you could blend the two... __________________ ...even fire and single cammin 1986 Ford F-150 5.0L 2WD 1994 Toyota Pickup 2.4L 4WD 1999 Ford Mustang 3.8L V6 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L 2WD 2008 GMC Sierra Denali 6.2L AWD

July 25th, 2006, 07:03 PM	#3
stang fanatic Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: El Paso, Tx Posts: 855 iTrader: 0 reviews	as a certified med duty tech, the duramax is the quietest out there..but too many issues right now to make me want one myself. Overall, ford has the largest room in their vehicles, but engine wise, as a cummins tech, i would want the isb for power, durability and most of all...reliability __________________ "The gods too are fond of a joke." "If I had only known, I would have been a locksmith. "

July 25th, 2006, 07:07 PM	#4
turp My Stallion is Bigger! 1989 Eddie Bauer Bronco 3 feet... Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: VA Beach Posts: 3,013 iTrader: 0 reviews	F350's are hot! __________________

July 25th, 2006, 07:57 PM	#6
Bossman351 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: On the trailer.......broke. Posts: 1,258 iTrader: 0 reviews	Here is my fantasy choice. It is an F-650 XD. It is a Ford truck with a Cummins engine so its a great combo. They ARE available to the public but the prices start at 85k for a stripped down, rubber floor mat, manual window/lock, base model. They claim it gets about 19 mpg and can seat 8-12 in seatbelts. I LOVE THESE TRUCKS!! In real life I may one day be able to afford something more along the lines of an F-250/350 SD. That is my dream truck. It would have to be a 4x4 with the Power Stroke. I know the Cummins is a bit of a better motor being an I6 vs. a V8 but Ive driven the Cummins (both the old one and the new one) and the Power Stroke and the Duramax. I didnt care for the Duramax and I just prefered the whole ford package over the Dodge. __________________

July 25th, 2006, 07:59 PM	#7
ChrisJ RLY SRS Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 36,743 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 9 reviews	^^^^ Thats a big truck...lol...I think I saw that in a magazine a while back... __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S - 2008 EB Ford Expedition - 2002 Boosted GT - Sold Facebook Google+

July 25th, 2006, 08:02 PM	#8
Bossman351 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: On the trailer.......broke. Posts: 1,258 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yeah, I was watching trucks on Spike the other day and they did a makeover on an 06 F250. they did a Bully Dog performance programmer with a monitoring system and a full Bully Dog exhaust and claim it added an extra 140 HP just from those 2 mods alone!! That is a lot of HP to be had from a few simple mods. __________________

July 25th, 2006, 08:20 PM	#9
99mustang232 MM Fanatic 1999 Ford Mustang V6 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: newport news, va Posts: 3,745 iTrader: 0 reviews	yeh i love diesels where else can you find over 100hp+ from bolt-ons? __________________ ...even fire and single cammin 1986 Ford F-150 5.0L 2WD 1994 Toyota Pickup 2.4L 4WD 1999 Ford Mustang 3.8L V6 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L 2WD 2008 GMC Sierra Denali 6.2L AWD

July 25th, 2006, 08:32 PM	#10
Horseshoeing Classic Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: GA Posts: 4,177 iTrader: 0 reviews	I like the ole 12v cummins. Others will have more power, but they will not out live it. __________________ Classic Mustangs are the best! Get one.

July 25th, 2006, 08:35 PM	#11
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,638 iTrader: 2 reviews	i like the cummins but the ddge trucks just fall apart aorund the engine. its a million mile motor with a 150k mile body, the duramax is nice but like someone said, still has a few problems but once youve driven one with an allison tranny, holy hell youll wan one. as for the ford i dont have any experience but i am sure they are great engines! and diesels are badass for making a ton of power. theres a guy around here with a 6 speed cummins that has twin trubos and water/ methanol injection and ive seen him run an 11.3 and have it on tape somewhere!! __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

July 25th, 2006, 08:38 PM	#12
Horseshoeing Classic Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: GA Posts: 4,177 iTrader: 0 reviews	You got all of them nailed __________________ Classic Mustangs are the best! Get one.

July 25th, 2006, 08:40 PM	#13
Hwyman Newbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 41 iTrader: 0 reviews	The 7.3L Power Stroke was an awesome engine. The 6.0L Power Stroke stubled a little out of the gate, but they seem to have the bugs ironed out now from what I hear. What scares me witht he Power Stroke is that the 08 Super Duty Fords are going to be redesigned and they are getting an all new Power Stroke from International (same manufacturer for the other 2 Power Strokes) that will be a 6.4L Twin Turbo. I'd either get one of the current 6.0L or wait a few years to make sure the 6.4L is ok. The Cummins in the Dodge is a good motor, but Dodges have been notorious for transmission problems. The only plus side I see for the Chevy/GMC is you can get it with an Allison transmission.

July 25th, 2006, 08:41 PM	#14
Bossman351 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: On the trailer.......broke. Posts: 1,258 iTrader: 0 reviews	The only problems I have heard of with the Power Stroke is that being a V8, they are prone to having the cylinders get egg shaped and the other thing I heard was that the turbo is hard to work on being under the intake manifold. I agree, the Allison tranny is kickass!! The Chevy I drove was a bone stock 2500 HD. I liked it and the cab was very comfortable but there was still just that little something about the Ford that I liked. __________________

July 25th, 2006, 08:44 PM	#15
ChrisJ RLY SRS Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 36,743 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 9 reviews	All this talk makes me want to go buy a Ford F-350SD __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S - 2008 EB Ford Expedition - 2002 Boosted GT - Sold Facebook Google+

July 25th, 2006, 08:48 PM	#16
Bossman351 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: On the trailer.......broke. Posts: 1,258 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yeah, its kind of re-sparked my interest in them. I got over it for the longest time but now Im getting the itch to find that perfect one again. __________________

July 25th, 2006, 08:52 PM	#17
Hwyman Newbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 41 iTrader: 0 reviews	I know, this is making me want to think about selling my 91 F-150!

July 25th, 2006, 09:08 PM	#18
Horseshoeing Classic Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: GA Posts: 4,177 iTrader: 0 reviews	I think the new Dodge trans are ok now __________________ Classic Mustangs are the best! Get one.

July 25th, 2006, 09:21 PM	#19
Bossman351 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: On the trailer.......broke. Posts: 1,258 iTrader: 0 reviews	I dont have any experience with the newer Dodge trannys but I had 2 Dodge 3/4 ton Diesel work trucks at my last job, an 01 and an 02. The 01 had 3 trannies and lots of front end work done all within 138k. I will say in its defense that it didnt go anywhere without a full bed of tools and parts and a VERY heavy trailer with anywhere from 3000 to 6000 lbs of equipment on it. It was an automatic. __________________

July 25th, 2006, 09:24 PM	#20
Horseshoeing Classic Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: GA Posts: 4,177 iTrader: 0 reviews	On the autos you have to beef them up. The six speeds are nice. __________________ Classic Mustangs are the best! Get one.

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