[El_Cangri]

so yeah i'm getting the stang sold dont ask y...

i got 2 options buy a car or a zx-14 (my uncle is going to sell his zx-14 07 so maybe he will give it to me pretty cheap)

so wht should i take or do?..

if u guys neverheard of a zx-14 look here (there are 2 different links in those 2 words)

[BWAL09]

lol dude, if have less than 5 years of experience on a high powered bike, that zx-14, or any 1000cc or possibly 600cc bike for that matter is gonna kick your ass.. thats a terrible mistake to get a bike any more powerful than a 600cc (and thats pushing it) for your first bike

and depending on the situation, i think you'd be happier with the car, since the bike wont do youmuch good in rain or bad weather or for anything else other than just riding

[BWAL09]

just ask tony.. he knows more about this kinda stuff than me

[El_Cangri]

its not going to be my first bike... it would be the first on i own.. not the first one i would drive..

i started with 125 cc then 250cc and continue moving on.. but now i just want 1400 cc

[BWAL09]

yeah man, 250cc will never prepare you for a 1400cc bike.. i'd suggest riding a 600cc for several years (5-10) before you even move onto a liter bike, then after a few more years move onto a 1300 or 1400cc

[El_Cangri]

i alredy got the feel of 600...

still havent been on curvy roads with one.. yet..

i know about this my uncle buyed his 1400 w.o never riding a 600 cc and it was very hard for him to drive his ninja.. it took him like 3 months to drive it really good still heavy ass hell bikes... more for drag than curves..

[BWAL09]

ok man, you dont have to listen to me.. what do i know?

atleast im not the person that will have to pay for your funeral

[06RedfireGT]

Dude you are what 15 or 16? a bike like that will eat you for dinner. I don't care what you have ridden before. Just because you have ridden one doesn't mean you can handle it everyday. Go for the car.

[HMUSN]

your going to kill yourself on that thing.

[06RedfireGT]

+1 you will not might. You simply couldn't handle the power. Its so easy to hurt yourself on my 450 dirtbike, let alone a 1400cc street bike

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[El_Cangri]

i'm not gonna bu it now... just gonna buy it like in one years and bwal i'm not bashin ur opinion or w.e...

i understand that even a 15 mph crash can kill u on a bike... too much factors when in a bike...

and yes i'm 15.. and just in case i'm not planning on going above the speed limit no matter what i'm not like those crazy dumbasses that do wheelies at 80 on highway...

the only times i'm planning on hitting above the speed limit would be in a dragstrip..

[BWAL09]

in all honesty, a 600cc bike will surprise the hell out of you too.. we're talking about 117hp (i think i read that somewhere) on something that weighs a fraction of most cars with that much hp..

i know a few extremely experienced riders that own 1000cc bikes and 600cc bikes and they say that even the 1000cc bikes are too powerful to have fun with.. i mean one small slip of the throttle and your neck is broken bro.. the ZX-14 is good for ONE THING and ONE THING ONLY and that is racing for EXTREMELY EXPERIENCED RIDERS, not a 15 year old who doesn't even have a driver's license (no offense)

[HMUSN]

it's not your driving that you need to worry about man.

it's everyone else's.

people don't seem to watch out for bikes enough and considering your age I doubt that you have the driving experience to handle situations that can and WILL arise on the streets.

[BWAL09]

Originally Posted by El_Cangri i'm not gonna bu it now... just gonna buy it like in one years and bwal i'm not bashin ur opinion or w.e... i understand that even a 15 mph crash can kill u on a bike... too much factors when in a bike... and yes i'm 15.. and just in case i'm not planning on going above the speed limit no matter what i'm not like those crazy dumbasses that do wheelies at 80 on highway... the only times i'm planning on hitting above the speed limit would be in a dragstrip..

dude, it has nothing to do with going over the speed limit.. you could be cruising at 20mph and a car pull out in front of you and guess what? BYE BYE EL CANGRI! you're DEAD.. accidents happen man, it has nothing at all to do with responsibility or maturity, its all about skill and experience, and obviously those are 2 things you dont have yet man

[El_Cangri]

yeah i understand man... i know all the concept.. and i'm not planning on buying the bike and riding it like a maniac..

o well.. i'l buy an 600 or 800something w.e..

[BWAL09]

Originally Posted by El_Cangri yeah i understand man... i know all the concept.. and i'm not planning on buying the bike and riding it like a maniac.. o well.. i'l buy an 600 or 800something w.e..

take my word for it man.. for your own safety.. you will NEVER get tired of a 600cc bike and it is plenty fast enough for you to never get bored with it, and you can smoke just about anything on the street with it.. like i said, even a 250cc dirtbike to a 600cc street bike is a huge hop, and the 600cc is by no means "safe" but i think that it would be your best bet if you consider yourself to be responsible and mature..

[El_Cangri]

Originally Posted by BWAL09 Originally Posted by El_Cangri yeah i understand man... i know all the concept.. and i'm not planning on buying the bike and riding it like a maniac.. o well.. i'l buy an 600 or 800something w.e.. take my word for it man.. for your own safety.. you will NEVER get tired of a 600cc bike and it is plenty fast enough for you to never get bored with it, and you can smoke just about anything on the street with it.. like i said, even a 250cc dirtbike to a 600cc street bike is a huge hop, and the 600cc is by no means "safe" but i think that it would be your best bet if you consider yourself to be responsible and mature..

yeah i know about the accidents and just in case that post i made wasnt meant for the HMUSN post or urs that went before mine...

well.. gonna get a car then a 600

[BWAL09]

^ good decision man, you wont regret it.

[El_Cangri]

hey who know how much is a skyline motor lol...

would a rb20DET fit a 92 240sx?

[Tony_90fox]

The truth is, you CAN learn to ride anything...But clutch/throttle/braking/steering/leaning skills are going to change with EVERY bike you ride...If you feel comfortable on a 600cc, be ready to take a HUGE step...Even if you meet in the middle...1000cc bikes, IMO are the most anybody would ever need..Busas are cool, and look good, but really i think people get them just to say they have more cc's...The weight difference is crazy! I have been riding dirtbikes all my life basically, and been on crotch rockets since i was 16 and got my endorsement when i was 17. I would be afraid to stop on any type of hill with a 1400, just because of its size...Even with me being 6', my legs are too short for that andadd the hill and the size, well that could spell disaster.

I know you already said you are getting the car, but i want to continue! lol

Bwal said it perfectly imo. 600cc bikes are actually perfect. Stock is fast. Get into exhaust, power commanders, and then sprocket upgrades, then they are wheelie kings...Most stunters prefer 600cc. they are relatively cheap, light bikes, with so much room for growth and improvement. But the 1000s are great for that too,

I have never owned my own bike either...I have been riding the 5 or so my dad has had since i was 16...

I am saving for a new yamaha R1 or Honda cbr1000rr