[ChrisJ]

Originally Posted by Vinyl66 not at all. anyone that deals with computers will tell you that you don't need one unless you do risky stuff on the net. i download stuff off limewire constantly and i don't get viruses. you just don't open shit that you don't know what it is and your fine. however if you not computer savvy i suggest getting one.

Lets see I was a Netork Administrator in the Air Force...I am a Systems Administrator in the Army as a contractor...

I can list my credentials if you would like...

My certs include but are not limited:

- CompTIA Security+ Certified
- CCNA
- MCSE (Server 2003)

I have certs in other locations as well but those are the 3 that pertain to this...

Anyone not running an anti-virus is asking for trouble...I run a router at my house with a IDS, Honeypot, Firewall, and port security...I also run AVG Anti-Virus on my computer...Do you know how mnay times a day my IDS goes off? On average 10 - 15 times...You know how many people i get in my honeypot? Average of around 3-4 a week...

And I am not really on the computer at my house all that much...Using limewire you are already running one strike...You are running on barrowed time not running an anti-virus...Do you at least run a firewall?

All it takes is one .exe file to destroy yourtt system...

One .exe file to broadcast back to the creator with your ip and what ports are open...Then the creator will take over your computer and see what info they want...They will take that and then prolly use your computer in a DDoS...

Then you will realize a anti-virus is a needed piece of equipment...

Spyware remover is fine but AVG is an all in one...And IMHO it is the best out there for your average home computer user...

[nba1341]

windows one care because it is made by microsoft so you wont have fucking annoying shit like from norton where its like windows trys to monitor your antivirus do u want to turn off

[ChrisJ]

Also if a person wants to they can hide the virus in your music or whatever you are downloading and when you click the file you downloaded it will start the file but it will also actiuvate the virus and then you start broadcasting all your info to the creator and anyone else that he decides to let listen...

[Drick]

Originally Posted by ChrisJ Check out AVG bro...

The free version of AVG sucks my friend got spyware right through it I got symantec it $50 a year and never had anything get through it it always pops up on the bottom of the screen INTRUDER BLOCKED and I like it updates itself and scans itself when something is detected

[Juggalo_X]

Originally Posted by nba1341 windows one care because it is made by microsoft so you wont have fucking annoying shit like from norton where its like windows trys to monitor your antivirus do u want to turn off

One care works about as good as using a butter knife to cut a brick. any symantic product isnt worth the resources it uses on your system. the @ top AV systems on the market right now is Kaspersky and NOD32

[Drick]

Tell me why symantec isnt worth its reasources

[ChrisJ]

Originally Posted by 8t6gt Originally Posted by ChrisJ Check out AVG bro... The free version of AVG sucks my friend got spyware right through it I got symantec it $50 a year and never had anything get through it it always pops up on the bottom of the screen INTRUDER BLOCKED and I like it updates itself and scans itself when something is detected

I dont run the free version and neither will he be...

I dont run very much free $hit becuase most of it is open source code...

[Juggalo_X]

Originally Posted by 8t6gt Tell me why symantec isnt worth its reasources

go install norton 360 and u will see ur not goign to win this argument with a computer technician. its a pig, hog and a tank what ever u will call it. and its still not as effective as most alternatives for catching viruses, spyware and worms. half the time norton catches a trojan it can never remove it. and there is the fact it throws in shit that u dont even need half the time. and Norton Internet Security is probably the most useless thing Symantic has ever created. Not worth the resources it takes up. Norton uses about 20x more ram then NOD32 or Kaspersky. and NOD32 and Kaspersky catch more shit dont beleive me ill send your the netsky or sasser worm and u will see norton wont even know its on ur system :wink

[Drick]

Originally Posted by Juggalo_X Originally Posted by 8t6gt Tell me why symantec isnt worth its reasources go install norton 360 and u will see ur not goign to win this argument with a computer technician. its a pig, hog and a tank what ever u will call it. and its still not as effective as most alternatives for catching viruses, spyware and worms. half the time norton catches a trojan it can never remove it. and there is the fact it throws in shit that u dont even need half the time. and Norton Internet Security is probably the most useless thing Symantic has ever created. Not worth the resources it takes up. Norton uses about 20x more ram then NOD32 or Kaspersky. and NOD32 and Kaspersky catch more shit dont beleive me ill send your the netsky or sasser work and u will see norton wont even know its on ur system :wink

I dont have 360 I am not trying to argue with you just wondering why it is useless thats all

[Vinyl66]

Originally Posted by ChrisJ Originally Posted by Vinyl66 not at all. anyone that deals with computers will tell you that you don't need one unless you do risky stuff on the net. i download stuff off limewire constantly and i don't get viruses. you just don't open shit that you don't know what it is and your fine. however if you not computer savvy i suggest getting one. Lets see I was a Netork Administrator in the Air Force...I am a Systems Administrator in the Army as a contractor... I can list my credentials if you would like... My certs include but are not limited: - CompTIA Security+ Certified - CCNA - MCSE (Server 2003) I have certs in other locations as well but those are the 3 that pertain to this... Anyone not running an anti-virus is asking for trouble...I run a router at my house with a IDS, Honeypot, Firewall, and port security...I also run AVG Anti-Virus on my computer...Do you know how mnay times a day my IDS goes off? On average 10 - 15 times...You know how many people i get in my honeypot? Average of around 3-4 a week... And I am not really on the computer at my house all that much...Using limewire you are already running one strike...You are running on barrowed time not running an anti-virus...Do you at least run a firewall? All it takes is one .exe file to destroy yourtt system... One .exe file to broadcast back to the creator with your ip and what ports are open...Then the creator will take over your computer and see what info they want...They will take that and then prolly use your computer in a DDoS... Then you will realize a anti-virus is a needed piece of equipment... Spyware remover is fine but AVG is an all in one...And IMHO it is the best out there for your average home computer user...

calm done the net admini didn't ask for your bio nor did i say don't get an anti virus i only stated that i feel their is no need for one. oh and btw im right now go right me another bio and/or life story

[Juggalo_X]

Originally Posted by 8t6gt Originally Posted by Juggalo_X Originally Posted by 8t6gt Tell me why symantec isnt worth its reasources go install norton 360 and u will see ur not goign to win this argument with a computer technician. its a pig, hog and a tank what ever u will call it. and its still not as effective as most alternatives for catching viruses, spyware and worms. half the time norton catches a trojan it can never remove it. and there is the fact it throws in shit that u dont even need half the time. and Norton Internet Security is probably the most useless thing Symantic has ever created. Not worth the resources it takes up. Norton uses about 20x more ram then NOD32 or Kaspersky. and NOD32 and Kaspersky catch more shit dont beleive me ill send your the netsky or sasser work and u will see norton wont even know its on ur system :wink I dont have 360 I am not trying to argue with you just wondering why it is useless thats all

Its a resource hog and dont catch half the crap out there

[ChrisJ]

Originally Posted by Vinyl66 Originally Posted by ChrisJ Originally Posted by Vinyl66 not at all. anyone that deals with computers will tell you that you don't need one unless you do risky stuff on the net. i download stuff off limewire constantly and i don't get viruses. you just don't open shit that you don't know what it is and your fine. however if you not computer savvy i suggest getting one. Lets see I was a Netork Administrator in the Air Force...I am a Systems Administrator in the Army as a contractor... I can list my credentials if you would like... My certs include but are not limited: - CompTIA Security+ Certified - CCNA - MCSE (Server 2003) I have certs in other locations as well but those are the 3 that pertain to this... Anyone not running an anti-virus is asking for trouble...I run a router at my house with a IDS, Honeypot, Firewall, and port security...I also run AVG Anti-Virus on my computer...Do you know how mnay times a day my IDS goes off? On average 10 - 15 times...You know how many people i get in my honeypot? Average of around 3-4 a week... And I am not really on the computer at my house all that much...Using limewire you are already running one strike...You are running on barrowed time not running an anti-virus...Do you at least run a firewall? All it takes is one .exe file to destroy yourtt system... One .exe file to broadcast back to the creator with your ip and what ports are open...Then the creator will take over your computer and see what info they want...They will take that and then prolly use your computer in a DDoS... Then you will realize a anti-virus is a needed piece of equipment... Spyware remover is fine but AVG is an all in one...And IMHO it is the best out there for your average home computer user... calm done the net admini didn't ask for your bio nor did i say don't get an anti virus i only stated that i feel their is no need for one. oh and btw im right now go right me another bio and/or life story

Dont be mad that you didnt understand what i said...I was showing you since I see that you are new to the forums...Didnt want you to think I was blowing smoke up your arse...

Its ok....Dont use an anti-virus...But dont come crying when you get a virus that rapes your computer...

Just trying to help you out...Wont happen again there hotrod...Keep on doing what your doing...

I wont write you another BIO nor did I in the first place but I will write you a fun little script/batchfile/executable if you would like...

[Juggalo_X]

Originally Posted by ChrisJ Originally Posted by Vinyl66 Originally Posted by ChrisJ Originally Posted by Vinyl66 not at all. anyone that deals with computers will tell you that you don't need one unless you do risky stuff on the net. i download stuff off limewire constantly and i don't get viruses. you just don't open shit that you don't know what it is and your fine. however if you not computer savvy i suggest getting one. Lets see I was a Netork Administrator in the Air Force...I am a Systems Administrator in the Army as a contractor... I can list my credentials if you would like... My certs include but are not limited: - CompTIA Security+ Certified - CCNA - MCSE (Server 2003) I have certs in other locations as well but those are the 3 that pertain to this... Anyone not running an anti-virus is asking for trouble...I run a router at my house with a IDS, Honeypot, Firewall, and port security...I also run AVG Anti-Virus on my computer...Do you know how mnay times a day my IDS goes off? On average 10 - 15 times...You know how many people i get in my honeypot? Average of around 3-4 a week... And I am not really on the computer at my house all that much...Using limewire you are already running one strike...You are running on barrowed time not running an anti-virus...Do you at least run a firewall? All it takes is one .exe file to destroy yourtt system... One .exe file to broadcast back to the creator with your ip and what ports are open...Then the creator will take over your computer and see what info they want...They will take that and then prolly use your computer in a DDoS... Then you will realize a anti-virus is a needed piece of equipment... Spyware remover is fine but AVG is an all in one...And IMHO it is the best out there for your average home computer user... calm done the net admini didn't ask for your bio nor did i say don't get an anti virus i only stated that i feel their is no need for one. oh and btw im right now go right me another bio and/or life story Dont be mad that you didnt understand what i said...I was showing you since I see that you are new to the forums...Didnt want you to think I was blowing smoke up your arse... Its ok....Dont use an anti-virus...But dont come crying when you get a virus that rapes your computer... Just trying to help you out...Wont happen again there hotrod...Keep on doing what your doing...Would you like a fun script?

Im with you ChrisJ As a tech i see virus infections daily and yes they do rape your computer very badly.

[Vinyl66]

didn't ask for your help and apparently i don't need it considering again i was making a statement lol your the one who feels the need to get on my shit there hotrod lol

[HMUSN]

i agree.

I am on my lab top because Chris sent my desk top a virus and killed it because I called him an asshole.

chris I still gotta get this damn thing fixed..

[ChrisJ]

Originally Posted by Vinyl66 didn't ask for your help and apparently i don't need it considering again i was making a statement lol your the one who feels the need to get on my shit there hotrod lol

Im just trying to help you see that an anti-virus is a good thing...Im not on your $hit I am trying to help you...trying to keep you from getting a virus...But oh well have fun...

Plain and simple guys...Viruses are real and they are only getting rougher...This is not the days of the nice bugs...This is the days of you being robbed without even knowing it...

Take it from someone that knows Identity Theft is a real deal...And it sucks...All it takes is one virus and BAM...Someone has all your bank records and all the info they need to wreck your life...Mine was stolen from a mailbox...But I have seen alot of people become ruined from internet hacking and viruses...

[06RedfireGT]

ChrisJ another PM heading your way

[Luis_GT]

Avast FTMFW!

Its worked a lot better than AVG for me and its free to boot.

Also, Norton AV SUCKS MAJORLY!

[chevy_killer]

mcaffe...dont know if anyone said that but it works great...its better than avg...and it monitors all the sites you go to telling you if you should download anything......???? thats my 2 cents

[Fox2102]

AVG or Avast. www.download.com