BEWARE dont buy Pypes brand products

NotAFivePointSlow · October 10th, 2007, 09:49 PM

I'm not sure if this belongs in this sub forum or not, but i figured anyone researching x-pipes might see it here.

I recently purchased a Pypes brand x pipe with catalytic converters, which is listed as California C.A.R.B. legal on their website.
I was imediately disapointed with the product due to the fact that the picture showed a fully welded system, and the system i got was in pieces and had to be clamped.
I decided to give it a shot, and put it on. The fit was rather poor, but i managed to fudge it in. The clamps did a pretty poor job of sealing it up and it leaked all over.
A couple weeks later i decided to just weld it because their site mentioned that it was the strongest way to attach it.
Not a huge deal, since the price was decent and it seemed to work ok after i welded it.
A month or so later, it was time to go for my smog check. I braught it in and they failed me because they said my x pipe wasnt smog legal. I was rather confused due to the fact their site specifically said it was legal for use in CA.
At this point i figured it was time to call the manufacturer. After i expained the situation, they told me that California is just being picky and that it is legal. I told them that in order to be legal, it needs to have a C.A.R.B. number. He put me on hold for a minute and said i should try going through smog again because i just went to a bad smog station. I knew this was B.S. so i asked for the carb number. He put me on hold one more time and said the carb number was listed on their site and was d-567. Now i might not be a detective, but that seems like a bogus number to me, judging by the other carb numbers i've seen.
After 10 minutes on the phone with this guy, it was apparent he had no intentions of owning up to their mistake or helping me out. After this realization, I mentioned that i had nothing but problems with the installation and that i had to weld it just to get it to seal, and also that claiming that it was C.A.R.B. legal when in fact it wasnt was false advertising and against the law. His reply was that since i welded it, they had no responsibility to fix the situation since i didnt call them before i welded it EVEN THOUGH THEIR SITE STATES THAT WELDING IS THE STRONGEST WAY TO GO. If they dont want it welded, they shouldnt put that on there or they should clearify that it will completely rid themselves of any responsibility of correcting major mistakes on their part.

Sorry for the rant, but since there are probably Californians on this site, i figured i should at least give some warning.

02StangGToWNEr · October 10th, 2007, 10:14 PM

Sorry to hear that you went through all of that bullshit. I never heard anything bad about Pypes before, so it's all news to me. Good luck.

Timm10221 · October 11th, 2007, 09:33 AM

damm man, that sucks bad, you would think since it is catted that it would pass

SWEET2KSTANG · October 11th, 2007, 09:40 AM

sorry to hear that. a friend of mine put their x-pipe on his gt and he was just as pissed. the fitment was junk and leaked all the time. he ended up trading the car in for a few reasons, that being a big one. he now has a 04 cobra, for some reason he likes it better than his gt.

Dawgfude03GT · October 11th, 2007, 12:21 PM

I have Pypes cat back and it's great but I am glad for the heads up on the mid pipe. Any posibility of swapping out for another high performance cat? If all else fails let me give you this piece of advice.. Coming from a customer service call center background, ESCALATE! If you don't get the answer you want ESCALATE! Get his boss. Then if its the same shit get their boss! Eventually you willg et what you want. No matter how high you go there is always someone higher. and by the time it gets to the manager of the entire cust service team they don't wanna deal with an irate calll so they give you the refund.

Dawgfude03GT · October 11th, 2007, 12:22 PM

and don't forget to throw in the BBB for false advertising..

HessiaN257 · October 11th, 2007, 02:36 PM

I have the pypes X pipe, and honestly couldn't be happier with it. No leaks and sound is great. It comes in the 3 piece design for an easier backyard install. I'm surprised you had a hard time with them.

40thmustanggt · October 11th, 2007, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by HessiaN257

I have the pypes X pipe, and honestly couldn't be happier with it. No leaks and sound is great. It comes in the 3 piece design for an easier backyard install. I'm surprised you had a hard time with them.

i have the o/r x and it fit perfect also no problems yet knock on wood.. sorry to hear about that though and dawg is right keep calling and get someone higher this always works for me..

232stang · October 11th, 2007, 08:54 PM

i have the o/r x pipe also, havent installed it yet, but its in 2 pieces which will make installation a breeze!

MSO · October 11th, 2007, 09:02 PM

i thought this was gonna be about bongs

damn.. *backs out slowly*

Regency 2007 · October 11th, 2007, 11:00 PM

I had a pypes x-pipe on my old mach I sold. I will say the quality of pipe is not as good as other manufacs but it was an easy install and it sounded pretty good. I guess you get what you pay for...

Grimmy · October 12th, 2007, 12:12 AM

if you truly believe that it is not carb legal then you should contact the california attorney generals office and let them know about the situation.

G.T. Rags · October 12th, 2007, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by My'StangOpens

i thought this was gonna be about bongs

damn.. *backs out slowly*

<--------walks in with big bag of grass in hand.........

"oops.....I'll be......um......yeah......BYE!!"

<--------trips over coffee table and knocks over $750 statue of Jebus as he falls into MSO's 2.3 convertible and they slowly..........slowly.........slowly.....slowly get away

Tony_90fox · October 12th, 2007, 03:06 AM

I think Zip's turtle would get away fastet! lol

I have never heard anything bad about pypes before...sucks it had to happen to you.

Invictus · October 12th, 2007, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop

Originally Posted by My'StangOpens

i thought this was gonna be about bongs

damn.. *backs out slowly*

<--------walks in with big bag of grass in hand.........

"oops.....I'll be......um......yeah......BYE!!"

<--------trips over coffee table and knocks over $750 statue of Jebus as he falls into MSO's 2.3 convertible and they slowly..........slowly.........slowly.....slowly get away

vfast · October 12th, 2007, 05:24 PM

I think this guys chief complaint it the bs carb # do like the above said call your cali smog people to get thier product banned for sale in cali...$$$ talks to these people

05mustang_TT_charged · October 12th, 2007, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop

Originally Posted by My'StangOpens

i thought this was gonna be about bongs

damn.. *backs out slowly*

<--------walks in with big bag of grass in hand.........

"oops.....I'll be......um......yeah......BYE!!"

<--------trips over coffee table and knocks over $750 statue of Jebus as he falls into MSO's 2.3 convertible and they slowly..........slowly.........slowly.....slowly get away

LMAO- that is the funniest thing I seen in a while

G.T. Rags · October 12th, 2007, 07:53 PM

^^^-----he obviously understood me

Originally Posted by Invictus

Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop

Originally Posted by My'StangOpens

i thought this was gonna be about bongs

damn.. *backs out slowly*

<--------walks in with big bag of grass in hand.........

"oops.....I'll be......um......yeah......BYE!!"

<--------trips over coffee table and knocks over $750 statue of Jebus as he falls into MSO's 2.3 convertible and they slowly..........slowly.........slowly.....slowly get away

October 10th, 2007, 09:49 PM	#1
NotAFivePointSlow Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 20 iTrader: 0 reviews	BEWARE dont buy Pypes brand products I'm not sure if this belongs in this sub forum or not, but i figured anyone researching x-pipes might see it here. I recently purchased a Pypes brand x pipe with catalytic converters, which is listed as California C.A.R.B. legal on their website. I was imediately disapointed with the product due to the fact that the picture showed a fully welded system, and the system i got was in pieces and had to be clamped. I decided to give it a shot, and put it on. The fit was rather poor, but i managed to fudge it in. The clamps did a pretty poor job of sealing it up and it leaked all over. A couple weeks later i decided to just weld it because their site mentioned that it was the strongest way to attach it. Not a huge deal, since the price was decent and it seemed to work ok after i welded it. A month or so later, it was time to go for my smog check. I braught it in and they failed me because they said my x pipe wasnt smog legal. I was rather confused due to the fact their site specifically said it was legal for use in CA. At this point i figured it was time to call the manufacturer. After i expained the situation, they told me that California is just being picky and that it is legal. I told them that in order to be legal, it needs to have a C.A.R.B. number. He put me on hold for a minute and said i should try going through smog again because i just went to a bad smog station. I knew this was B.S. so i asked for the carb number. He put me on hold one more time and said the carb number was listed on their site and was d-567. Now i might not be a detective, but that seems like a bogus number to me, judging by the other carb numbers i've seen. After 10 minutes on the phone with this guy, it was apparent he had no intentions of owning up to their mistake or helping me out. After this realization, I mentioned that i had nothing but problems with the installation and that i had to weld it just to get it to seal, and also that claiming that it was C.A.R.B. legal when in fact it wasnt was false advertising and against the law. His reply was that since i welded it, they had no responsibility to fix the situation since i didnt call them before i welded it EVEN THOUGH THEIR SITE STATES THAT WELDING IS THE STRONGEST WAY TO GO. If they dont want it welded, they shouldnt put that on there or they should clearify that it will completely rid themselves of any responsibility of correcting major mistakes on their part. Sorry for the rant, but since there are probably Californians on this site, i figured i should at least give some warning.

October 11th, 2007, 09:40 AM	#4
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,542 iTrader: 8 reviews	sorry to hear that. a friend of mine put their x-pipe on his gt and he was just as pissed. the fitment was junk and leaked all the time. he ended up trading the car in for a few reasons, that being a big one. he now has a 04 cobra, for some reason he likes it better than his gt. __________________ project warhorse under construction wagon burner under construction as well (04 lightning) being built by MP2 Performance

October 11th, 2007, 12:21 PM	#5
Dawgfude03GT Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Denver, CO. Posts: 335 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have Pypes cat back and it's great but I am glad for the heads up on the mid pipe. Any posibility of swapping out for another high performance cat? If all else fails let me give you this piece of advice.. Coming from a customer service call center background, ESCALATE! If you don't get the answer you want ESCALATE! Get his boss. Then if its the same shit get their boss! Eventually you willg et what you want. No matter how high you go there is always someone higher. and by the time it gets to the manager of the entire cust service team they don't wanna deal with an irate calll so they give you the refund. __________________ CAI, P&P 75mm Throttle Body and Intake Plenum, Pypes Cat Back Exhaust, FRPP 4:10 Gears. GOBAMA

October 11th, 2007, 12:22 PM	#6
Dawgfude03GT Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Denver, CO. Posts: 335 iTrader: 0 reviews	and don't forget to throw in the BBB for false advertising.. __________________ CAI, P&P 75mm Throttle Body and Intake Plenum, Pypes Cat Back Exhaust, FRPP 4:10 Gears. GOBAMA

October 11th, 2007, 02:36 PM	#7
HessiaN257 Enthusiast 2000 Mustang GT 13.9@101 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 805 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have the pypes X pipe, and honestly couldn't be happier with it. No leaks and sound is great. It comes in the 3 piece design for an easier backyard install. I'm surprised you had a hard time with them. __________________ 13.9@101 before some mods

October 10th, 2007, 10:14 PM	#2
02StangGToWNEr Hardcore Enthusiast 2006 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,698 iTrader: 0 reviews	Sorry to hear that you went through all of that bullshit. I never heard anything bad about Pypes before, so it's all news to me. Good luck.

October 11th, 2007, 09:02 PM	#10
MSO Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: アメリカ Posts: 5,933 iTrader: 0 reviews	i thought this was gonna be about bongs damn.. backs out slowly __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] [SIZE="5"][FONT="Arial Black"]OBEY THE FACE![/FONT][/SIZE] Edited By Moderator. Next time will be a ban.

October 11th, 2007, 11:00 PM	#11
Regency 2007 Hardcore Enthusiast F-150 FX4 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Memphrica Posts: 1,144 iTrader: 0 reviews	I had a pypes x-pipe on my old mach I sold. I will say the quality of pipe is not as good as other manufacs but it was an easy install and it sounded pretty good. I guess you get what you pay for...

October 12th, 2007, 03:06 AM	#14
Tony_90fox Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,803 iTrader: 0 reviews	I think Zip's turtle would get away fastet! lol I have never heard anything bad about pypes before...sucks it had to happen to you. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] [B][U]MM Sapper Squad[/U][/B] [QUOTE=Regency 2007;1676187]MSO's stupidity has never stopped amazing me since the day he joined this forum.[/QUOTE]

October 12th, 2007, 05:24 PM	#16
vfast Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: shimmy shack takeout Posts: 1,084 iTrader: 0 reviews	I think this guys chief complaint it the bs carb # do like the above said call your cali smog people to get thier product banned for sale in cali...$$$ talks to these people

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