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Old October 12th, 2007, 10:16 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by Fryrice
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Fuck hilary. If the way her husband ran things is any indecation of the way she will we're all fucked.
Red your a cool cat . But no offense ,it sounds like your just repeating things that you have heard the far right wing,evangelicals say. Like it or not ,Bill Clinton will go down as one of the best Presidents we have ever had.

To call yourself a Bush supporter ,and then claim that Bill Clinton was somehow bad for America is "poppy cock" and pretty ironic IMO,lol.

Clinton left this country in great shape when he left. There are plenty of stats to show it.
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Fuck hilary. If the way her husband ran things is any indecation of the way she will we're all fucked.
Red your a cool cat . But no offense ,it sounds like your just repeating things that you have heard the far right wing,evangelicals say. Like it or not ,Bill Clinton will go down as one of the best Presidents we have ever had.

To call yourself a Bush supporter ,and then claim that Bill Clinton was somehow bad for America is "poppy cock" and pretty ironic IMO,lol.

Clinton left this country in great shape when he left. There are plenty of stats to show it.
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and u kno he did good when the rich kid agrees too

Like it or not ,Bill Clinton will go down as one of the best Presidents we have ever had.
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So far Rudy's winning

I was watching a thing on one of the news channels with John McCain. He's lookin pretty promising.

And I'm not trying to be sexist, but alot of the countries of the world that have respect for the US will lose it if we have a women president. Just my $.02.
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Originally Posted by Fryrice
The "rockstars" of these elections are obviously gonna win it..Either ,Clinton ,Obama maybe Rudy. Honestly I dont see any of the current Rep's beating Hillary. Im not just saying that as a Dem,but most analysts say the same. But its early ,so anyone can stumble.


BUT I gotta tell ya,and I may get joked on here ,but even as a Dem I think Ron Paul is a breath of fresh air. That guy understands money ,diplomacy and doesn't ramble off talking points every 5 seconds. He is a old school libertarian ,not that new whacky evangelical politician.

Even Dennis Kucinich is a straight shooter. I really like a few of the underdogs in this race.
You're asbsolutley right. Ron Paul is who I'll be voting for. He's the only candidate that opposes the war, North American Union(which sadley most people have never heard of), and supports power of the states.

If the North American Union happens, our country will change forever, and it's actually a step towards losing our democracy. He makes a lot of sense if you listen to what he says.
 
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Originally Posted by 69fastback
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Originally Posted by Fryrice
The "rockstars" of these elections are obviously gonna win it..Either ,Clinton ,Obama maybe Rudy. Honestly I dont see any of the current Rep's beating Hillary. Im not just saying that as a Dem,but most analysts say the same. But its early ,so anyone can stumble.


BUT I gotta tell ya,and I may get joked on here ,but even as a Dem I think Ron Paul is a breath of fresh air. That guy understands money ,diplomacy and doesn't ramble off talking points every 5 seconds. He is a old school libertarian ,not that new whacky evangelical politician.

Even Dennis Kucinich is a straight shooter. I really like a few of the underdogs in this race.
You're asbsolutley right. Ron Paul is who I'll be voting for. He's the only candidate that opposes the war, North American Union(which sadley most people have never heard of), and supports power of the states.

If the North American Union happens, our country will change forever, and it's actually a step towards losing our democracy. He makes a lot of sense if you listen to what he says.
Ron Paul is the truth man. Its to bad he will most likely be overshadowed by the big time names. Though he has quite a cult following ,especially from young voters on both side of the isle. As well as Independents .

If any of you guys haven't had a chance to listen to Ron Paul at these debates ,try and hear him out. He's a Republican,but hes a old school libertarian Rep. Basically that means he believes that everyone has the right to be whatever or whoever they want,and also have total control over their own lives and property. Hes for small government and many of the things this country was originally founded on.

He doesn't have the looks of a Mitt Romney or the charisma of a Barrack Obama ,but hes got some good knowledge and positions. I listen to him talk and Im just like " damn hes right on".

I have a feeling he may end up running as an Independent . If he does,and Im not excited about any Dem ,he will get my vote.

FOR THE RECORD - I dont vote Democrat just because I dont like Republicans or something. Fact is,Ill vote for anyone that strikes a chord with me and who I think will be the best choice for Prez. I just dont like how so much of the GOP is hinged on what religion someone is. Democrats aint perfect either ,but thats not what America is about.
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Originally Posted by 06RedfireGT
So far Rudy's winning

I was watching a thing on one of the news channels with John McCain. He's lookin pretty promising.

And I'm not trying to be sexist, but alot of the countries of the world that have respect for the US will lose it if we have a women president. Just my $.02.
you are exactly right, countries like Russia or China who dont hold women equal to men will not take us seriously or respect us.

as long as hillary or obama doesnt win id be happy. mccain or thompson i think would be best.
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BTW - As far as the North American Union is concerned........how can Bush CLAIM to be tough on terror and even consider something so diabolical and disastrous to the independence of the United States ?


You Bush supporters need to do some research on Lil Bush. Hes not the guy you think he is.
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Originally Posted by Fryrice
The "rockstars" of these elections are obviously gonna win it..Either ,Clinton ,Obama maybe Rudy. Honestly I dont see any of the current Rep's beating Hillary. Im not just saying that as a Dem,but most analysts say the same. But its early ,so anyone can stumble.


BUT I gotta tell ya,and I may get joked on here ,but even as a Dem I think Ron Paul is a breath of fresh air. That guy understands money ,diplomacy and doesn't ramble off talking points every 5 seconds. He is a old school libertarian ,not that new whacky evangelical politician.

Even Dennis Kucinich is a straight shooter. I really like a few of the underdogs in this race.
You're asbsolutley right. Ron Paul is who I'll be voting for. He's the only candidate that opposes the war, North American Union(which sadley most people have never heard of), and supports power of the states.

If the North American Union happens, our country will change forever, and it's actually a step towards losing our democracy. He makes a lot of sense if you listen to what he says.
Ron Paul is the truth man. Its to bad he will most likely be overshadowed by the big time names. Though he has quite a cult following ,especially from young voters on both side of the isle. As well as Independents .

If any of you guys haven't had a chance to listen to Ron Paul at these debates ,try and hear him out. He's a Republican,but hes a old school libertarian Rep. Basically that means he believes that everyone has the right to be whatever or whoever they want,and also have total control over their own lives and property. Hes for small government and many of the things this country was originally founded on.

He doesn't have the looks of a Mitt Romney or the charisma of a Barrack Obama ,but hes got some good knowledge and positions. I listen to him talk and Im just like " damn hes right on".

I have a feeling he may end up running as an Independent . If he does,and Im not excited about any Dem ,he will get my vote.

FOR THE RECORD - I dont vote Democrat just because I dont like Republicans or something. Fact is,Ill vote for anyone that strikes a chord with me and who I think will be the best choice for Prez. I just dont like how so much of the GOP is hinged on what religion someone is. Democrats aint perfect either ,but thats not what America is about.

I agree completely. There's so much I could say about this guy but I dont know where to start and I don't have time to type it out right now. Everyone should google him and listen to what he says.

Another thing people should google is the North American Union if you don't know what it is. The media doesn't talk about it, an everyone needs to know about it. The production of the amero needs to be stopped.

Ron Paul is the guy we need to get out country started back in the right direction. At least look into what he has to say before the primaries come around.
 
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Originally Posted by Fryrice
BTW - As far as the North American Union is concerned........how can Bush CLAIM to be tough on terror and even consider something so diabolical and disastrous to the independence of the United States ?


You Bush supporters need to do some research on Lil Bush. Hes not the guy you think he is.
Man we are on the same page. I fly out in your direction a lot, and maybe we should meet up....lol

Bush already has us headed in that direction and he bipassed congress because he says it's a "NATO" issue.

It will end life as we know it if it happens.
 
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haha fryrice knows his shit

i dont even wanna vote this year.. i hate politics.. everyone is full of shit and 60% of the country is a bunch of redneck fucktards that think bush is the best thing to happen to america even though he's ranked one of the worse presidents ever
 
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haha fryrice knows his shit

i dont even wanna vote this year.. i hate politics.. everyone is full of shit and 60% of the country is a bunch of redneck fucktards that think bush is the best thing to happen to america even though he's ranked one of the worse presidents ever
The Bush administration is a disaster. The people that think he's great are the same people that think The Federal Reserve is a government controlled department, and the government controls how much paper they print, and the government controls inflation.
 
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haha fryrice knows his shit

i dont even wanna vote this year.. i hate politics.. everyone is full of shit and 60% of the country is a bunch of redneck fucktards that think bush is the best thing to happen to america even though he's ranked one of the worse presidents ever
The Bush administration is a disaster. The people that think he's great are the same people that think The Federal Reserve is a government controlled department, and the government controls how much paper they print, and the government controls inflation.
americans are idiots

i blame the school systems... bush's pathetic attempt at improving it is dispicable....

soon as he's out of office that shit's gonna be taken down
 
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Guys you gotta remember, alot has happened during the Bush presidency to our country and he carrys a heavy burden. Support our troops.
 
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Originally Posted by 69fastback
Originally Posted by Fryrice
BTW - As far as the North American Union is concerned........how can Bush CLAIM to be tough on terror and even consider something so diabolical and disastrous to the independence of the United States ?


You Bush supporters need to do some research on Lil Bush. Hes not the guy you think he is.
Man we are on the same page. I fly out in your direction a lot, and maybe we should meet up....lol
Hey ,with a Mustang like you got,your always welcome in my hood ,lol. It was about 75 degrees here last Christmas day,so bring your swim trunks.

Thanks MSO.

I understand your frustration man. I get the same feeling sometimes. I get sick of talking points and the "gotcha" game. Take Mitt Romney for example . At the last GOP debate in Michigan ,he was asked a question about whether or not he would go to Congress in regards to Irans nuclear facility buildup and attacking their facilities.

Im paraphrasing here ,but basically he said that he would consult his lawyers first (as President) and see what they had to say about it. Ok , I understood what he was trying to say. And he's right actually ,because you do have to determine whether or not a preemptive strike on a NON weapons facility is legal under international law. Especially when that particular SOVEREIGN nation has made no attack against you.

Fact is ,whether we like it of not, Iran has a right to build and develop alternative sources of power. Nuclear weapons is another issue. Wellllllll now the media and his GOP opponents are ripping him a new one. Basically saying hes weak because he would talk to his lawyers first.....

Again, myself and many other people understood what he was trying to say,but the "gotcha" media is all over it. Irans nuclear power buildup is not an "imminent" danger ,so therefore you dont need the immediate military action that these radical war mongers would like to see. You consult the proper branches of the government as well as you advisors (thats what they are there for) and then you make a legal judgment call on how to act.

Sorry for the rant,but Im a pretty fair guy. Even though Im not gonna vote for Mitt ,I still got the jist of what he was saying. Ok back on topic......
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Guys you gotta remember, alot has happened during the Bush presidency to our country and he carrys a heavy burden. Support our troops.
I support our troops 100%, but I don't support the idiot leading them. We're fighting a battle tha CAN NOT be won. The middle east is in a religious war and we don't belong in the middle of it. When Reagan was president and he sent troops over there, he quickly withdrew them admitting he made a mistake and brought them back home.

Their thinking is totally different than ours and they are completely irrational. We can't police the world and we are making enemies so fast we can't count them.

We have troops in 130 different countries, and that's just rediculous. We need to come home and take care of ourselves.
 
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Originally Posted by Regency 2007
Guys you gotta remember, alot has happened during the Bush presidency to our country and he carrys a heavy burden. Support our troops.
A lot has happened. Terrorists knock down the WTC's ,and crash into the Pentagon as well as crash a plane into a field in Penny.

Soooo in return we are spreading freedom and Democracy to those who will not fight for it themselves. I heard any day now we should be finding those WMD's that we were promised.

Yeah a lot has happened. Hurricane Katrina devastated the Gulf Coast of the U.S. Now its up to FEMA to save the day. Bush appointed Michael Brown to head up FEMA . Before his position at FEMA Brownie was Judges and Stewards Commissioner of the International Arabian Horse Association.........EXCUSE ME........REALLY ? THIS is the guy that Bush wants heading up FEMA ? The federal agency that is tasked with the job of delivering relief to hundreds of thousands of people is in the hands of a horse judge ?

BTW- Brownie was forced to resign from his position as Judges and Stewards Commissioner over disciplinary actions.Anyone ever heard of a job resume ?

Yeah a lot has happened. Those are just 2 of the biggest "lots happened" since hes been in office.

Americans feelings about Bush bears absolutely NO reference to the troops. Thats another catch phrase designed by this Admin to keep people from challenging their actions and authority. Its a total crock.
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you seem to be pretty all over the political scene

i used to watch the news channels and see what's goin on.. then i realized the stupid fucks that live in this country are gonna vote for whoever gives them the most money and best feeling of security, even if they're too stoopid to realize they're going about it the wrong way

its sad that ppl cant think for themselves these days...
 
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Originally Posted by Regency 2007
Guys you gotta remember, alot has happened during the Bush presidency to our country and he carrys a heavy burden. Support our troops.
A lot has happened. Terrorists knock down the WTC's ,and crash into the Pentagon as well as crash a plane into a field in Penny.

Soooo in return we are spreading freedom and Democracy to those who will not fight for it themselves. I heard any day now we should be finding those WMD's that we were promised.

Yeah a lot has happened. Hurricane Katrina devastated the Gulf Coast of the U.S. ,so Bush apponts Michael Brown to head up FEMA ? Before his position at FEMA Brownie was Judges and Stewards Commissioner International Arabian Horse Association.............REALLY ? THIS is the guy that Bush wants heading up FEMA ? BTW- Brownie was forced to resign from his position as Judges and Stewards Commissioner over disciplinary actions.

Yeah a lot has happened. Those are just 2 of the biggest "lots happened" since hes been in office.

Americans feelings about Bush bears absolutely NO reference to the troops. Thats another catch phrase designed by this Admin to keep people from challenging their actions and authority. Its a total crock.
Don't get me started on the "catch phrases." WMD's is just the beginning, and I'm so afraid of what 's going to happen in Iran. Our mainstream media is so messed up, you have to go outside the USA to get reliable information.
 
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