Who Is The Champ: Buick Grand National Or Mustang?

87foxbodylx · November 19th, 2007, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by 03 R Code

Do the '93 Cobra's not compare close to the GNX's? Or what about the Cobra R's. Didnt' they run pretty fast?

do you mean the SN95 style cobra? or foxbody? I dont know about the Cobra R. but The GNX compared to any normal Mustang (LX, GT, SVO) and some older cobra, the GNX runs away with the golden trophey

87foxbodylx · November 19th, 2007, 10:35 PM

and yes, the GNX is/was like whats now the GT/cobra...BuickGNX.com for Information on the 1987 Buick GNX

03 R Code · November 19th, 2007, 10:38 PM

The fox body. I was trying to stick to something close to the same production years as the GN's. I looked around and tried to find some times on either of these cars in stock form. Couldn't find more than 1 or 2 of each that claimed to be stock. The GN #'s ranged from 13.0x - 14.xx... The Notchback 5.0's were claiming 12.9x - mid 13's.

You know where to get any reliable times for either car. I was looking on dragtimes.

HMUSN · November 19th, 2007, 10:38 PM

exactly.

the prototypes were tweaked.

that car never saw 13.2 from the factory .. not any sold to customers anyway.

87foxbodylx · November 19th, 2007, 10:42 PM

well, The GNX is a Grand National, and most people see it the way I did. If its the typical GN then no, the things a joke...

ESG-642T · November 19th, 2007, 10:45 PM

Didn't the GNX compete with even the vette back in 86?

"The Grand Nationals and T-Types were the fastest production cars made in America for 1986 and 1987 (which really made the Corvette owners mad)."

87foxbodylx · November 19th, 2007, 10:49 PM

The GNX out performed the Corvette... funny how their own company hurt themselves..

BWAL · November 19th, 2007, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by 87foxbodylx

The GNX out performed the Corvette... funny how their own company hurt themselves..

i heard somewhere that's why they quit making them - they didn't want a car that would outperform GM's flagship; the corvette

87foxbodylx · November 19th, 2007, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by BWAL09

i heard somewhere that's why they quit making them - they didn't want a car that would outperform GM's flagship; the corvette

you my friend are correct.

AtlanticBlue99 · November 19th, 2007, 11:03 PM

well they only made 547 GNX's, so the corvette was actually driven to its potential more, i'd say

YVEYANT · November 19th, 2007, 11:11 PM

I never compared them stock to stock. I compared the two cars as they were on the street, modified, stock whatever, basically the way they showed up at the line or street light waiting to race. The Mustang was the cars we heard roaring down the block and was consistently the winner.

YVEYANT · November 19th, 2007, 11:14 PM

Here is the thread that started this debate, man these Buick guys are sensitive..:
THE new GNX - PY Online Forums

HMUSN · November 19th, 2007, 11:18 PM

hell.. modded to modded.. the mustang will always win.

YVEYANT · November 19th, 2007, 11:24 PM

I mentioned the Mustang is 600 pounds lighter and more aerodynamic. I also stated that all a lightly modded Mustang would need to beat a Grand national is a good driver and a five speed. We are really comparing the Grand national, not the GNX being that they are so pampered and many leave them stock. One guy tried it though and I said this:

"If you do want to compare apples to apples in the late eightees, early nineties as you said.. You go buy a $29,000 Buick and I will buy a $14,000 Mustang LX 5.0. With the extra $15,000 I have saved, I will go with a set of ported & polished heads, cam, intake, Paxton Novi, tremec 5-speed, short throw shifter, line lock, centerforce dual friction clutch, larger throttle body, larger mass air, bigger injectors, traction bars, slicks, full exhaust & gears. Out of pitty, I might give you the extra $2000 I have left to purchase a new pair of doors that I just blew off," lol

Thewolfman456 · November 19th, 2007, 11:26 PM

Yveyant, that was great.

YVEYANT · November 19th, 2007, 11:27 PM

Thanks man,
I am trying but there are not many of us over there..

YVEYANT · November 19th, 2007, 11:34 PM

I should say there are plenty of Mustang guys on the site, they just haven't seen the post yet and how it has become a battle as to which car reigns supreme on the street where anything goes. I do know there are a lot of Mustang owners & enthusiasts on the forum.

AtlanticBlue99 · November 19th, 2007, 11:34 PM

those diehard buick guys are living in the past. i bet they have mullets too

mattstang · November 19th, 2007, 11:34 PM

people are just crybabies when you talk about a car they own...

everyones car is the best thing since sliced bread and you cant tell them any diff

Timber · November 20th, 2007, 12:31 AM

They run on boost and aren't hard to make much faster than stock.

November 19th, 2007, 10:35 PM	#22
87foxbodylx Enthusiast 1987 Mustang LX 13.9@102.43 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ephrata PA Posts: 648 iTrader: 0 reviews	and yes, the GNX is/was like whats now the GT/cobra...BuickGNX.com for Information on the 1987 Buick GNX __________________ HONDA: Hold on, Not done Accelerating A girl's legs are her best friends, but the best of friends must part. LIVE Tag- foxbody87

November 19th, 2007, 10:38 PM	#23
03 R Code MM Fanatic unstoppable @ speed of light Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Knees deep in dat ass Posts: 3,103 iTrader: 0 reviews	The fox body. I was trying to stick to something close to the same production years as the GN's. I looked around and tried to find some times on either of these cars in stock form. Couldn't find more than 1 or 2 of each that claimed to be stock. The GN #'s ranged from 13.0x - 14.xx... The Notchback 5.0's were claiming 12.9x - mid 13's. You know where to get any reliable times for either car. I was looking on dragtimes. __________________ Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

November 19th, 2007, 10:38 PM	#24
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 36,836 iTrader: 9 reviews	exactly. the prototypes were tweaked. that car never saw 13.2 from the factory .. not any sold to customers anyway. __________________

November 19th, 2007, 10:42 PM	#25
87foxbodylx Enthusiast 1987 Mustang LX 13.9@102.43 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ephrata PA Posts: 648 iTrader: 0 reviews	well, The GNX is a Grand National, and most people see it the way I did. If its the typical GN then no, the things a joke... __________________ HONDA: Hold on, Not done Accelerating A girl's legs are her best friends, but the best of friends must part. LIVE Tag- foxbody87

November 19th, 2007, 10:45 PM	#26
ESG-642T [8MINUS2] 2002, Ford, v6 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TEXAS Posts: 12,207 iTrader: 0 reviews	Didn't the GNX compete with even the vette back in 86? "The Grand Nationals and T-Types were the fastest production cars made in America for 1986 and 1987 (which really made the Corvette owners mad)." __________________ Hi, You can call me Kyle

November 19th, 2007, 10:49 PM	#27
87foxbodylx Enthusiast 1987 Mustang LX 13.9@102.43 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ephrata PA Posts: 648 iTrader: 0 reviews	The GNX out performed the Corvette... funny how their own company hurt themselves.. __________________ HONDA: Hold on, Not done Accelerating A girl's legs are her best friends, but the best of friends must part. LIVE Tag- foxbody87

November 19th, 2007, 11:03 PM	#30
AtlanticBlue99 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1999 Ford Mustang V6 14.79 @ 92.15 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: University of Georgia Posts: 8,859 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	well they only made 547 GNX's, so the corvette was actually driven to its potential more, i'd say __________________ ModdedAutos 1999 Mustang V6 I used to list my mods here but stopped when I exceeded 255 characters.

November 19th, 2007, 11:11 PM	#31
YVEYANT Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2 iTrader: 0 reviews	I never compared them stock to stock. I compared the two cars as they were on the street, modified, stock whatever, basically the way they showed up at the line or street light waiting to race. The Mustang was the cars we heard roaring down the block and was consistently the winner.

November 19th, 2007, 11:14 PM	#32
YVEYANT Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2 iTrader: 0 reviews	Here is the thread that started this debate, man these Buick guys are sensitive..: THE new GNX - PY Online Forums

November 19th, 2007, 11:18 PM	#33
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 36,836 iTrader: 9 reviews	hell.. modded to modded.. the mustang will always win. __________________

November 19th, 2007, 11:24 PM	#34
YVEYANT Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2 iTrader: 0 reviews	I mentioned the Mustang is 600 pounds lighter and more aerodynamic. I also stated that all a lightly modded Mustang would need to beat a Grand national is a good driver and a five speed. We are really comparing the Grand national, not the GNX being that they are so pampered and many leave them stock. One guy tried it though and I said this: "If you do want to compare apples to apples in the late eightees, early nineties as you said.. You go buy a $29,000 Buick and I will buy a $14,000 Mustang LX 5.0. With the extra $15,000 I have saved, I will go with a set of ported & polished heads, cam, intake, Paxton Novi, tremec 5-speed, short throw shifter, line lock, centerforce dual friction clutch, larger throttle body, larger mass air, bigger injectors, traction bars, slicks, full exhaust & gears. Out of pitty, I might give you the extra $2000 I have left to purchase a new pair of doors that I just blew off," lol

November 19th, 2007, 11:26 PM	#35
Thewolfman456 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 481 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yveyant, that was great.

November 19th, 2007, 11:27 PM	#36
YVEYANT Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanks man, I am trying but there are not many of us over there..

November 19th, 2007, 11:34 PM	#37
YVEYANT Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2 iTrader: 0 reviews	I should say there are plenty of Mustang guys on the site, they just haven't seen the post yet and how it has become a battle as to which car reigns supreme on the street where anything goes. I do know there are a lot of Mustang owners & enthusiasts on the forum.

November 19th, 2007, 11:34 PM	#39
mattstang Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,762 iTrader: 1 reviews	people are just crybabies when you talk about a car they own... everyones car is the best thing since sliced bread and you cant tell them any diff

November 20th, 2007, 12:31 AM	#40
Timber Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: No point mentioning those bats... Posts: 867 iTrader: 0 reviews	They run on boost and aren't hard to make much faster than stock. __________________

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