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Toyota Passes Ford for No. 2 in US Sales: Financial News - Yahoo! Finance

[97GT4.6]

Damn it. It was sure to happen eventually. Ford will be back, its just a matter of time.

[MSO]

Originally Posted by 97GT4.6 Damn it. It was sure to happen eventually. Ford will be back, its just a matter of time.

+1

as long as they stay in the public eye they'll be fine

[Monark]

Originally Posted by 97GT4.6 Damn it. It was sure to happen eventually. Ford will be back, its just a matter of time.

I sure hope so.

[nba1341]

ford has slowly been improving starting with the fusion, new mustang and going on

[Dansby]

I just want to see whats next with ford.

[Regency 2007]

WHen the new f150 hits the market it will be all over with, BOSS motor and the small diesel motor that gives almost 500ft lbs of torque and gets over 24mpg

[HMUSN]

^ I am guessing YET ANOTHER version of the Mustang

[07stanggt]

I blame the baby boomers. they are still convinced that japenese cars are somehow better than american. They buy avalons which are ugly cars becuase they think they last longer. Then they trade them in in 3 or 4 years anyway, like it matters. I never put less than 140,000 on any ford or jeep that i owned. But you cant talk to them they are still living in the 70s.

Ford will be fine.

[Luis_GT]

Originally Posted by 07stanggt I blame the baby boomers. they are still convinced that japenese cars are somehow better than american. They buy avalons which are ugly cars becuase they think they last longer. Then they trade them in in 3 or 4 years anyway, like it matters. I never put less than 140,000 on any ford or jeep that i owned. But you cant talk to them they are still living in the 70s. Ford will be fine.

I'm not a baby boomer and I have a Avalon with 140,000 miles... granted, its missing a door do to an accident... but everything works, except for a window.

[HMUSN]

my 1980 FORD works just fine too

[MSO]

Originally Posted by 07stanggt They buy avalons which are ugly cars becuase they think they last longer. Then they trade them in in 3 or 4 years anyway

its true

im thinkin about buying something reliable.. something that im gonna trade in long before the warranty wears off.. i dunno i think im gonna get the new camry cuz it will last longer than the fusion

cuz god forbid, doing research on something before you drop $20k and the next 4 years of your life to is outrageous!

[Luis_GT]

I was born in 89... but I see alot of 80's toyotas, nissans, and mazdas driving around... not that many fords or GM's...

[MSO]

Originally Posted by Luis_GT I was born in 89... but I see alot of 80's toyotas, nissans, and mazdas driving around... not that many fords or GM's...

it's quite the opposite here

there's a lot of late 80s/early 90s fords and chevys around here

only the newer cars are imports.. and the occasional ricer early 90s honda

[Luis_GT]

Originally Posted by MSO it's quite the opposite here there's a lot of late 80s/early 90s fords and chevys around here only the newer cars are imports.. and the occasional ricer early 90s honda

I won't argue with that, here, the #1 automotive seller is Toyota, followed by honda, I think the third is nissan and ford is like in 6th or 7th...

[07stanggt]

I think you missed my point. Im not saying that a avalon wont last long. What im saying is that back in the mid/late 70s the american cars may have been junk for a lot of reasons. now they are just as good and any study will verify this. And what im saying is that i dont think its a design issue becuase i dont think that honda's or toyotas like the avalon are some great looking cars.

I got a freind. He is 46. a customer of mine and we hunt together. we have become good freinds. He owns a avalon. its 2 years old he has about 24,000 on it. It has been in the shop twice for something wrong with it. My stang 48,000, never been in the shop for a mechanical problem. My jeep had 90,000 on it before it had a problem with the front differential, and i have been off road in that thing in 7 different states on many a huntin trip. But even with that said you will never convince him that toyotas arent better made vehicles that are going to break down less and last longer. thats my point.

[97GT4.6]

I agree. MY parents generation think that japanese cars are the only cars that are built to last. My jeep has 157,000 miles on it when i sold it 2 months ago, my stang has 151,000 and both have had less problems than my moms lexus es300 which has been in the shop 3 times at only 56,000 miles.

I will only buy american cars for as long as i live.

[07stanggt]

Originally Posted by 97GT4.6 I agree. MY parents generation think that japanese cars are the only cars that are built to last. My jeep has 157,000 miles on it when i sold it 2 months ago, my stang has 151,000 and both have had less problems than my moms lexus es300 which has been in the shop 3 times at only 56,000 miles. I will only buy american cars for as long as i live.

That my point. and i bet your mom still thinks and will always think the japenese cars are better.

And dont even get me started on german cars they are all together shit. Its a good think bmw dealers give you loaners when your car is in the shop. You gonna need it

[06RedfireGT]

My uncle has a 96 BMW 328i as a daily beater and it has 275k on it. Runs fine, but when it was new it would keep going into limp mode and had a bunch of other problems, and I believe lulu has said his mom's bimmer has had problems too. I have had nothing but American cars and it will stay like that

[MSO]

man i've seen american cars that were utter pieces of shit

rolling cow maneur

ready to break down and putter to a stop at any second

and those shits wud last another year or two of abuse before they finally bit the dust.. and even then it wudn't be a big problem but something stupid like a bad water pump and they just junk it cuz the pump wud cost more than the car lol