[Stangfather]

Originally Posted by Tiller88 Hey guys so I have been thinkin most of my family has been in the military and someone brought that up when I was lookin for a job... So I was kinda thinking about it but the only thing is I want to be stationed in the U.S. and I dont really want to be sent to Iraq and also I want to be a MP so it will help my LEO status later on any thoughts?

dont join the military then.

i hear the boy scouts are always looking for scoutmasters....the pay aint great but at least youl be safe at night in yoru warm little bed and your footsie pajamas..

[Drgnracin72]

lol

[HMUSN]

[AndrewA.]

Take your asvab and go to all the recruters. They will tell you what you scored high enough for but dont be pissed about this hole getting "sent over". And if it sounds to good to be true it is. Active, Guard and Reserve does not matter...cant speak for all the branchs but the AF is on a permanent cycle of deploying.

[ChrisJ]

Originally Posted by AndrewA. Take your asvab and go to all the recruters. They will tell you what you scored high enough for but dont be pissed about this hole getting "sent over". And if it sounds to good to be true it is. Active, Guard and Reserve does not matter...cant speak for all the branchs but the AF is on a permanent cycle of deploying.

4-6 months deployed and 18 months off without a chance of deploying...Most people that I have met never deployed in 4 years...

They use an AEF Cycle...Every 18 months your bucket is a go...If you get chosen for your bucket you deploy...

I volunteered for my deployments/tdys...

I know of alot of guys that didnt deploy for well over 8 years...

But deploying is not that bad and you should not fear what you can not control...Just do your job and come home...

[AndrewA.]

AEF cylce includes all there..The reserve/guard does not use the same AEF number system that acitve uses. We get an AEF number every other year. Once they get assianged an AEF it is all volunteer. But like i said it depends on who you are with and what you do...EX We have gotten 3 AEFs in the last 4yrs there is "talk" about not doing it on a a voulunteer due to some continuing to deny going.

[ChrisJ]

I dont understand how people could turn down a deployment...If you dont go that means someone else has to...

I would rather deploy then to have the burden that I made another human do a job I refused to do...

I have far to mush pride for that...

[AndrewA.]

I know man...

[Till]

bringing this thread back to life went and talked to the rec he said I could get SF like trial or w/e and I we talked and what not I forgot what he said the sign-on bonus was damnit

But Im really thinkin about it and I have accepted the fact if I go in theres a 99% chance im going over and if I am I am going to bust my ass to be SF so I know whats going on and what not..

So my gf is sayin she doesnt want me to go and what not that I'll break another promise and what not she wont leave me but she'll be really upset with me

Dont flame just give some insight thanks

[mixedbreed02gt]

Originally Posted by Tiller88 Hey guys so I have been thinkin most of my family has been in the military and someone brought that up when I was lookin for a job... So I was kinda thinking about it but the only thing is I want to be stationed in the U.S. and I dont really want to be sent to Iraq and also I want to be a MP so it will help my LEO status later on any thoughts?

dont be so foolish to think you wont go to Iraq if you join the military. If I were you I'd think long and hard about that commitment. Also you can get student loans and go to a local community college and go through the Police Academy.

but if you are insistent on joining the miltary...join the Navy and aim to be a submariner. you'll never see Iraq or Iran for that matter as a submariner. and you'll be a member of one of the world's most elite military units.

I rank the military elite as follows.

Navy SEALS (some bad ass mo fo's)
Delta Force (on par with the Navy Seals)
Marine Force RECON
US Navy Submarine Fleet (these guys can't even communicate with their families while they are at sea, and they are underwater for periods of 90 days or longer)
US Army Green Berets
US Army Rangers
US Marines
US Army
US Navy
US Air Force (flyboys, but i like the afterburners on their jets)
US Coast Guard (pussies)

[00vabchgt]

Originally Posted by mixedbreed02gt dont be so foolish to think you wont go to Iraq if you join the military. If I were you I'd think long and hard about that commitment. Also you can get student loans and go to a local community college and go through the Police Academy. but if you are insistent on joining the miltary...join the Navy and aim to be a submariner. you'll never see Iraq or Iran for that matter and submariner. and you'll be a member of one of the world's most elite military units. I rank the military elite as follows. Navy SEALS (some bad ass mo fo's) Delta Force (on par with the Navy Seals) Marine Force RECON US Navy Submarine Fleet (these guys can't even communicate with their families while they are at sea, and they are underwater for periods of 90 days or longer) US Army Green Berets US Army Rangers US Marines US Army US Navy US Air Force (flyboys, but i like the afterburners on their jets) US Coast Guard (pussies)

true statements, there MB. it's a hard life, and not every one's cut out for it. my theory has always been that there's something inherently wrong with someone to make him volunteer for the Silent Service. but if i could go back and change it, i wouldn't. the proudest moment of my Naval career was getting my fish pinned on.
communicating with family has come a long way. when i was on the boat, we had a system in place that allowed you to send off email and receive it. it didn't always work right, and sometimes we couldn't use it at all because of the type of operations we were on. but if my wife sent me 10 emails and i got 1, i was ecstatic.
our ballistic missile boats go on patrols, typically for 90 days. sometimes they're shorter, sometimes they're longer, but not by much. the amount of time a submarine can operate submerged and without support is limited only by the amount of food we can carry. fast attack boats like i was on will deploy for 6 months, sometimes a little longer. you're not submerged the whole time. there are scheduled liberty ports and usually one upkeep period usually lasting about 2 weeks. all of that of course depends on tasking. the longest amount of time i spent underway was 75 days, 73 of which was submerged...
i remember something my first CO told me: he told me that there were actually more SEALs in the Navy than submariners. yeah, it's that small a community, but it's more like a brotherhood. you meet some weird guys, but most of them will become like brothers...

[smoke-em]

I'm sorry but Marine snipers are way more elite than recon

[Ninjawafers!]

Originally Posted by mixedbreed02gt dont be so foolish to think you wont go to Iraq if you join the military. If I were you I'd think long and hard about that commitment. Also you can get student loans and go to a local community college and go through the Police Academy. but if you are insistent on joining the miltary...join the Navy and aim to be a submariner. you'll never see Iraq or Iran for that matter as a submariner. and you'll be a member of one of the world's most elite military units. I rank the military elite as follows. Navy SEALS (some bad ass mo fo's) Delta Force (on par with the Navy Seals) Marine Force RECON US Navy Submarine Fleet (these guys can't even communicate with their families while they are at sea, and they are underwater for periods of 90 days or longer) US Army Green Berets US Army Rangers US Marines US Army US Navy US Air Force (flyboys, but i like the afterburners on their jets) US Coast Guard (pussies)

fuck you dude. just because we save lives and not take them DOES NOT make us pussies. not to mention the fact that we have fought in war since the War of 1812. Our AST's (rescue swimmers) school has the same percentage that passes as the Navy SEALS. We have elite trained MSST's and MSRT's that are our highly trained helo fast-rope interdiction forces. The USCG has 11 missions that we do simulatniously where as the other branches of service have one.. killing. Learn your shit before you start talking it

[HMUSN]

the Coasties have some cool toys.

I love the hueys (sp)

only 3.8 is a pussy

[Ninjawafers!]

Originally Posted by HMUSN the Coasties have some cool toys. I love the hueys (sp) only 3.8 is a pussy

ha-ha pecker checker

we do have some cool toys.. and with Deepwater still coming out.. we will get a lot more

[00vabchgt]

i met a couple of Coasties when i was at Blackwater. there was a little friendly shit talking back and forth, but those guys were pretty cool. i learned a lot ablout the kind of stuff the Coast Guard actually does. it gave me a newfound respect for Coasties. i'll still call 'em Puddle Pirates, but it's all in good fun. i wouldn't expect anything less than being called a Squid or a Bubblehead in return...

[Ninjawafers!]

yeah.. you better respect us bubblehe... err... MM1

[00vabchgt]

Originally Posted by 3.8Coastie yeah.. you better respect us bubblehe... err... MM1

i always preferred the term "Bottom Gun" to Bubblehead, OS2...

[Ninjawafers!]

Originally Posted by 00vabchgt i always preferred to be the "Bottom Guy" in rack duty, OS2...

I knew it!!!

[Rico-mofos]

Each "elite unit" as you put it is superior in their own way....Anyone who served in what ever service is as much a pussy as you are for saying that ...this post is about a kid whos not sure if he should sign up or not...