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Old February 19th, 2008, 04:48 AM   #1
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Muscle cars = sport cars??


I know this may seems a pretty stupid question but I had a hell of an argument with a co-workers about the fact that I consider Mustangs, Camaros... as sport cars even though they are known as Muscle cars...He said that I need to educate myself and that Muscle cars are not considered, by someone who knows cars (and according to him I don't...) as sport cars... What do you guys think???
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Old February 19th, 2008, 05:10 AM   #2
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hmmmm well I always thought of the old stangs, ol gtos, ol chevelles as muscle cars the ones with an ass load of TQ n HP to back it up and was only good in a straight line. sports cars i think of newer cars that have considerable hp n tq but can also handle ok on the road or track and or just a 2 door, reasonable power, with the sporty looks. never really boggeled my mind over this ?. lol
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a v6 mustang = sports car

a v8 mustang = muscle car


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Originally Posted by nba1341 View Post
a v6 mustang = sports car

a v8 mustang = muscle car


problem solved
so a stock 95 GT 5.0 with its 210 hp is a muscle car?
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A sports car is an automobile designed for performance driving. Most sports cars are rear-wheel drive, have two seats, two doors, and are designed for more precise handling, acceleration, and aesthetics. A sports car's dominant considerations can be superior road handling, braking, maneuverability, low weight, and high power, rather than passenger space, comfort, and fuel economy.



A muscle car is an automobile with a high horse power engine, modest weight, capable of producing high levels of acceleration. The term principally refers to American, Australian and South African models and generally describes a 2-door rear wheel drive mid-size car with a large, powerful V8 engine and special trim, intended for maximum torque on the street or in drag racing competition



so depending on the type of car, it can actually be considered both...however when people think of sports cars, most of them have lambos or ferraris or some high dollar exotic car that comes to mind, and when people think muscle car, they think of an older american made car like camaros, mustangs, corvettes, chevelles, chargers, challengers, you know the classics

so u just gotta go by the definition

however IMO i would have to lean towards camaros and mustangs and cars like that being muscle car decendents(v8's that is...v6's are neither sporty or have any muscle stock )
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Camaro, Mustang, Challenger, etc = Muscle car.

Porsche, BMW (depending on the series), Honda S2000, etc = sports car.
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sports car is a real catagorization.
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You know whats funny... the older muscle cars still accelerate slower than a stock 99-04 gt. new edges do it in the 5.4-5.9 0-60 range... older ones go 6sec-8sec
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Funny my "boat" as people like to call it, out accelerates stock 99-04 GT's
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Originally Posted by mustangmanic View Post
You know whats funny... the older muscle cars still accelerate slower than a stock 99-04 gt. new edges do it in the 5.4-5.9 0-60 range... older ones go 6sec-8sec
It depends on the car, manic. No stock New Edge would have touched my 70' 383 Cuda.
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Originally Posted by TheUNZippee! View Post
It depends on the car, manic. No stock New Edge would have touched my 70' 383 Cuda.

*Crashes Avalon onto cuda...* oh... you meant as in beat in a race.... sorry...
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Originally Posted by nba1341 View Post
a v6 mustang = sports car

a v8 mustang = muscle car


problem solved
my car is far from sporty jack ass
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Originally Posted by TheUNZippee! View Post
It depends on the car, manic. No stock New Edge would have touched my 70' 383 Cuda.
yeah i agree, it greatly depends on the car, there are so many old muscle cars that would put the new edge GT to shame...so much for 40 years of technology

id like to see a new GT get lucky enough to read my liscence plate
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I don't know i would consider anything with 2 doors, real wheel drive, and more then needed horse power stock to be a sports car...
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Originally Posted by TheUNZippee! View Post
It depends on the car, manic. No stock New Edge would have touched my 70' 383 Cuda.
or a '70 chevelle ss 454
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Originally Posted by mustangmanic View Post
You know whats funny... the older muscle cars still accelerate slower than a stock 99-04 gt. new edges do it in the 5.4-5.9 0-60 range... older ones go 6sec-8sec

400hp + 5" wide bias ply tires= shitty 0-60, but.... well over 100-110mph mark in the 1/4 mile.
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Your insurance company calls it a sports car!!
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'69 Dodge coronet for instrance does like 0-60 in 6.5 or so but its quarter is mid -low 14s. pretty quick for a 3700 lb 'boat'
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