Muscle cars = sport cars??

Mistertribal · February 19th, 2008, 04:48 AM

I know this may seems a pretty stupid question but I had a hell of an argument with a co-workers about the fact that I consider Mustangs, Camaros... as sport cars even though they are known as Muscle cars...He said that I need to educate myself and that Muscle cars are not considered, by someone who knows cars (and according to him I don't...) as sport cars... What do you guys think???

97Cobra · February 19th, 2008, 05:10 AM

hmmmm well I always thought of the old stangs, ol gtos, ol chevelles as muscle cars the ones with an ass load of TQ n HP to back it up and was only good in a straight line. sports cars i think of newer cars that have considerable hp n tq but can also handle ok on the road or track and or just a 2 door, reasonable power, with the sporty looks.

never really boggeled my mind over this ?. lol

nba1341 · February 19th, 2008, 05:13 AM

a v6 mustang = sports car

a v8 mustang = muscle car

problem solved

97Cobra · February 19th, 2008, 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by nba1341

a v6 mustang = sports car

a v8 mustang = muscle car

problem solved

so a stock 95 GT 5.0 with its 210 hp is a muscle car?

supermachone · February 19th, 2008, 08:10 AM

A sports car is an automobile designed for performance driving. Most sports cars are rear-wheel drive, have two seats, two doors, and are designed for more precise handling, acceleration, and aesthetics. A sports car's dominant considerations can be superior road handling, braking, maneuverability, low weight, and high power, rather than passenger space, comfort, and fuel economy.

A muscle car is an automobile with a high horse power engine, modest weight, capable of producing high levels of acceleration. The term principally refers to American, Australian and South African models and generally describes a 2-door rear wheel drive mid-size car with a large, powerful V8 engine and special trim, intended for maximum torque on the street or in drag racing competition

so depending on the type of car, it can actually be considered both...however when people think of sports cars, most of them have lambos or ferraris or some high dollar exotic car that comes to mind, and when people think muscle car, they think of an older american made car like camaros, mustangs, corvettes, chevelles, chargers, challengers, you know the classics

so u just gotta go by the definition

however IMO i would have to lean towards camaros and mustangs and cars like that being muscle car decendents(v8's that is...v6's are neither sporty or have any muscle stock

)

TheUNZippee! · February 19th, 2008, 08:38 AM

Camaro, Mustang, Challenger, etc = Muscle car.

Porsche, BMW (depending on the series), Honda S2000, etc = sports car.

Luis_GT · February 19th, 2008, 09:59 AM

JBIGBOOTSY · February 19th, 2008, 10:14 AM

sports car is a real catagorization.

TheUNZippee! · February 19th, 2008, 10:16 AM

jbig stop stealing my heart

mustangmanic · February 19th, 2008, 10:42 AM

You know whats funny... the older muscle cars still accelerate slower than a stock 99-04 gt. new edges do it in the 5.4-5.9 0-60 range... older ones go 6sec-8sec

Luis_GT · February 19th, 2008, 10:44 AM

Funny my "boat" as people like to call it, out accelerates stock 99-04 GT's

TheUNZippee! · February 19th, 2008, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by mustangmanic

You know whats funny... the older muscle cars still accelerate slower than a stock 99-04 gt. new edges do it in the 5.4-5.9 0-60 range... older ones go 6sec-8sec

It depends on the car, manic. No stock New Edge would have touched my 70' 383 Cuda.

Luis_GT · February 19th, 2008, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by TheUNZippee!

It depends on the car, manic. No stock New Edge would have touched my 70' 383 Cuda.

*Crashes Avalon onto cuda...* oh... you meant as in beat in a race.... sorry...

Onemanzu · February 19th, 2008, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by nba1341

a v6 mustang = sports car

a v8 mustang = muscle car

problem solved

my car is far from sporty jack ass

supermachone · February 19th, 2008, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by TheUNZippee!

It depends on the car, manic. No stock New Edge would have touched my 70' 383 Cuda.

yeah i agree, it greatly depends on the car, there are so many old muscle cars that would put the new edge GT to shame...so much for 40 years of technology

id like to see a new GT get lucky enough to read my liscence plate

Onemanzu · February 19th, 2008, 11:05 AM

I don't know i would consider anything with 2 doors, real wheel drive, and more then needed horse power stock to be a sports car...

whitemustang02 · February 19th, 2008, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by TheUNZippee!

It depends on the car, manic. No stock New Edge would have touched my 70' 383 Cuda.

or a '70 chevelle ss 454

JBIGBOOTSY · February 19th, 2008, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by mustangmanic

You know whats funny... the older muscle cars still accelerate slower than a stock 99-04 gt. new edges do it in the 5.4-5.9 0-60 range... older ones go 6sec-8sec

400hp + 5" wide bias ply tires= shitty 0-60, but.... well over 100-110mph mark in the 1/4 mile.

SlideFox · February 19th, 2008, 11:25 AM

Your insurance company calls it a sports car!!

zinc02GT · February 19th, 2008, 11:30 AM

'69 Dodge coronet for instrance does like 0-60 in 6.5 or so but its quarter is mid -low 14s. pretty quick for a 3700 lb 'boat'

February 19th, 2008, 04:48 AM	#1
Mistertribal Regular 1989 Mustang GT vert. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Québec, Canada Posts: 246 iTrader: 0 reviews	Muscle cars = sport cars?? I know this may seems a pretty stupid question but I had a hell of an argument with a co-workers about the fact that I consider Mustangs, Camaros... as sport cars even though they are known as Muscle cars...He said that I need to educate myself and that Muscle cars are not considered, by someone who knows cars (and according to him I don't...) as sport cars... What do you guys think??? __________________ Keep pursuing your dreams...'cause when you stop...you die. 1989 Mustang GT convertible Dynomax Ultra Flo 2.5" catback, BBK 2.5" O/R H Pipe.

February 19th, 2008, 05:10 AM	#2
97Cobra I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1997 Mustang Cobra 1/8 - 8.89@86mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 6,535 iTrader: 1 reviews	hmmmm well I always thought of the old stangs, ol gtos, ol chevelles as muscle cars the ones with an ass load of TQ n HP to back it up and was only good in a straight line. sports cars i think of newer cars that have considerable hp n tq but can also handle ok on the road or track and or just a 2 door, reasonable power, with the sporty looks. never really boggeled my mind over this ?. lol __________________ Modifications and pics in my Garage... Reps Appreciated!

February 19th, 2008, 05:13 AM	#3
nba1341 Banned 1965 Mustang Fastback Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los Angeles, Cal Posts: 24,982 Posts: 2,197 iTrader: 0 reviews	a v6 mustang = sports car a v8 mustang = muscle car problem solved __________________ I'm a good boy now. [COLOR=red][B]slow car club - crew member 7 of 9 [COLOR=White]Mood: Cool :cool: [/COLOR][/B] [/COLOR]

February 19th, 2008, 08:10 AM	#5
supermachone MM Fanatic 2004 GT Kessel Run @ Less Than 12 Parsecs Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 4,694 iTrader: 2 reviews	A sports car is an automobile designed for performance driving. Most sports cars are rear-wheel drive, have two seats, two doors, and are designed for more precise handling, acceleration, and aesthetics. A sports car's dominant considerations can be superior road handling, braking, maneuverability, low weight, and high power, rather than passenger space, comfort, and fuel economy. A muscle car is an automobile with a high horse power engine, modest weight, capable of producing high levels of acceleration. The term principally refers to American, Australian and South African models and generally describes a 2-door rear wheel drive mid-size car with a large, powerful V8 engine and special trim, intended for maximum torque on the street or in drag racing competition so depending on the type of car, it can actually be considered both...however when people think of sports cars, most of them have lambos or ferraris or some high dollar exotic car that comes to mind, and when people think muscle car, they think of an older american made car like camaros, mustangs, corvettes, chevelles, chargers, challengers, you know the classics so u just gotta go by the definition however IMO i would have to lean towards camaros and mustangs and cars like that being muscle car decendents(v8's that is...v6's are neither sporty or have any muscle stock ) __________________ Last edited by supermachone; February 19th, 2008 at 08:22 AM.

February 19th, 2008, 08:38 AM	#6
TheUNZippee! Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 61,816 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	Camaro, Mustang, Challenger, etc = Muscle car. Porsche, BMW (depending on the series), Honda S2000, etc = sports car. __________________

February 19th, 2008, 09:59 AM	#7
Luis_GT Banned 2002 BMW 530i don't know and don't care Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5,191 iTrader: 0 reviews

February 19th, 2008, 10:14 AM	#8
JBIGBOOTSY MM Fanatic 1990 LX hatch Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hobart Indiana Posts: 4,392 iTrader: 0 reviews	sports car is a real catagorization. __________________ Bolt-on Abraham Lincoln Log motor. With extra wiring.

February 19th, 2008, 10:16 AM	#9
TheUNZippee! Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 61,816 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	jbig stop stealing my heart __________________

February 19th, 2008, 10:42 AM	#10
mustangmanic MM Fanatic 2002 Mustang GT 13.334 @ 106.27 w/2.01 60' Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 3,108 iTrader: 2 reviews	You know whats funny... the older muscle cars still accelerate slower than a stock 99-04 gt. new edges do it in the 5.4-5.9 0-60 range... older ones go 6sec-8sec __________________

February 19th, 2008, 10:44 AM	#11
Luis_GT Banned 2002 BMW 530i don't know and don't care Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5,191 iTrader: 0 reviews	Funny my "boat" as people like to call it, out accelerates stock 99-04 GT's

February 19th, 2008, 11:05 AM	#16
Onemanzu ¡ʇsnq ɹo uʍop ǝpısdn Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Looking for free hand jobs in poland springs nebraska... silly gooses Posts: 12,513 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	I don't know i would consider anything with 2 doors, real wheel drive, and more then needed horse power stock to be a sports car... __________________ My Foz

February 19th, 2008, 11:25 AM	#19
SlideFox Regular 2000 Mustang V6 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chandler, AZ Posts: 253 iTrader: 0 reviews	Your insurance company calls it a sports car!! __________________ '00 Silver Mustang V6 Coupe 18x9 Black Bullitt Front Wheels 18x10 Black Bullitt Rear Wheels Nitto NT-555 Tires Steeda Short Shifter BBK Intake Mach 1 Chin Spoiler w/ Grill Delete Projector Headlights

February 19th, 2008, 11:30 AM	#20
zinc02GT HUGE RED HEADED DUDE W/FIVE-OH 2011 Mustang GT 12.1 @ 116 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 5,346 iTrader: 1 reviews	'69 Dodge coronet for instrance does like 0-60 in 6.5 or so but its quarter is mid -low 14s. pretty quick for a 3700 lb 'boat' __________________ Mods in garage. New mods, new track times soon.

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