The Beast

jlaw98gt · March 24th, 2008, 11:09 AM

looks great matt....nice job...im sure you mother wanted to kill you walking into the house that dirty lmao

the real shocker · March 24th, 2008, 11:19 AM

its so weird seeing plug wires and a distributor

looking forward to seeing the rest of this and the final numbers

just out of curiousity.... does doing a PI swap change the compression ratio a lot? and what kind of numbers are you planning on putting down?

jlaw98gt · March 24th, 2008, 11:20 AM

it raises the comp to about 10:1 i think i could be wrong dont hold me to that..and ive heard matt say hes expecting around 280-300 to the wheels....

MustangMatt96GT · March 24th, 2008, 11:24 AM

im expecting about 300+/- 10 HP and monster TQ

Reason being is that the Comp 270 isn't as aggressive as i wanted, but i would have had to get fly cuts to get that done.

ANd it raises the Compression to 10.4:1 or so with a stock head. But mine are ported so, it should be around 10.2:1-10.3:1

jlaw98gt · March 24th, 2008, 11:36 AM

so you settled....shame on you!!

ujslost · March 24th, 2008, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by the real shocker

its so weird seeing plug wires and a distributor

looking forward to seeing the rest of this and the final numbers

just out of curiousity.... does doing a PI swap change the compression ratio a lot? and what kind of numbers are you planning on putting down?

where do you see a distributor?

About time matt. took ya long enough!!! Good job dude! PS pulleys FTL

Uncle Humjaba · March 24th, 2008, 12:02 PM

Thanks for the help. My PI motor had one with the holes in it as well. Oh, and I won't be doing shorties because it's not in my budget. So far, I've spent
$300 - PI intake (d'oh)
-$100 sold npi intake
$100 - entire PI motor
-$100 sold pi intake
-$60 used IAC off new motor when mine took a dump... prolly saved me some money
$170 - gaskets/head swap kit
$0 - carb cleaner and scotchbrite pads
---------------------------------
$310 for entire swap

how much are shorties? $300? for 5hp? no thanks

MustangMatt96GT · March 24th, 2008, 12:08 PM

Ujslost ur the one saying I had to pull the damn thing. WHen all i had to do was drain the fluid and take the fitting off! LOL
I think the distruber is the coil pack bank instead of the COPs that shocker is talking about.

68 dlxcoupe · March 24th, 2008, 12:12 PM

You dont have to get flycut pistons for 270's. Im running stock pistons and as long as you degree them to the correct position you'll be fine, but whatever....... where'd you get your cams ground Matt?? and How much?

MustangMatt96GT · March 24th, 2008, 12:15 PM

yeah the comp 270 will not need flycuts if degreed. Thats what im giong with. The cams i wanted were going to require flycuts. The cam i wanted was more agressive than the Comp 270.

Comp ground my cams with out the 5º advance though.

68 dlxcoupe · March 24th, 2008, 12:17 PM

oh ok. How much did you pay for those??

68 dlxcoupe · March 24th, 2008, 12:18 PM

BTW I'm going to tackle degreeing my cams today hopefully......I'm not looking forward to it. Its alright though i got Boomer to help me out.

MustangMatt96GT · March 24th, 2008, 12:23 PM

yeah degreeing the cams seem to be pretty easy! Boomer has helped me a lot though this process as has Ujslost. Thanks guys!

But I paid 675 shipped to my door for the cams.

68 dlxcoupe · March 24th, 2008, 12:41 PM

Word thats not too bad. What else are you going to be doing? I figured while everythings out I might as well replace the oil pump, waterpump, timing guides, chains, injectors, and all new cam gears, spacers, bolts, and what not. Oh yea I found out that all of comp cams take the 12MM bolt for the sprocket. Comp never told me that, so i found out the hard way gettin ready to install everything.

Did you get your wiring harness out the way??

MustangMatt96GT · March 24th, 2008, 12:45 PM

naw i have nothing to do on the car but clean up the engine bay for the day... My heads will be here tommorow hopefully.

I went with a Ported and Polished head, Hooker longtubes and these comp 270s. This thing should scream on the bottle.

But im leaving everything else the way it was other than the bolts. I have ARP head studs going on. My comp cams came with gear bolts too. wierd.

Next few weeks i should be getting 30 LB injectors and 255lph fuel pump. Water pump has less than 5000 miles on it, and the oil pump seems to work just fine.

68 dlxcoupe · March 24th, 2008, 12:53 PM

Sweet well let m eknow if you need any help with anything else.

Tony_90fox · March 24th, 2008, 02:18 PM

git-r-done

MustangMatt96GT · March 24th, 2008, 05:45 PM

I got the rear drag springs in. But they were very very hard to do. I cant wait for the heads to show back up... In the mean while im going to start cleaning the timing cover and the valve covers.

Casper98GT · March 24th, 2008, 09:36 PM

DO WORK SON. Looks like its comming along just fine. Dont rush, take time to fire one off everynight as well. Trust me it helps.

Oh yeah...if you think the rear springs are very very hard to do...good luck with the fronts.

So....question probably some others are wondering...how much for everything? Because i picked up heads, cam, intake, s/c and intercooler for 2300. Sell that junk 4.6 and pick up a nice 5.0. Just kidding. Good thing youre still running high compression, with the nitrous shot you have you'll be more than happy with the entire setup.

Good job man...You've come quiet far with this car.

MustangMatt96GT · March 24th, 2008, 09:40 PM

thanks man. I plan on blowing up the bottom end this summer. Not intensionally. Aswell as ruining my axles. Next on the list is 31 spline locker, and axles. And then a 12.5:1 compression forged aluminum short block! i say that should make decent power on a direct port 200 shot.

I would say I have about 2000-2500 in the swap. Been saving a while, and also been buying lots of stuff used...

March 24th, 2008, 11:09 AM	#61
jlaw98gt Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 mustang gt 12.6@110 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cedar Grove NJ Posts: 2,032	looks great matt....nice job...im sure you mother wanted to kill you walking into the house that dirty lmao __________________ 1998 mustang gt- Jlt RAI: Steeda Pullies: PI intake: PI cams: 4.10's: Hooker longtubes: Mac Prochamber: Flowmaster: Pro-kit spings: UPR C/C plates: steeda upr&lwr rear control arms: MM subframes: Tokico shocks & strutsLeave rep for helpful posts

March 24th, 2008, 11:19 AM	#62
the real shocker Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.00 @ 105 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Jackson, MS Posts: 1,581	its so weird seeing plug wires and a distributor looking forward to seeing the rest of this and the final numbers just out of curiousity.... does doing a PI swap change the compression ratio a lot? and what kind of numbers are you planning on putting down? __________________

March 24th, 2008, 11:20 AM	#63
jlaw98gt Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 mustang gt 12.6@110 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cedar Grove NJ Posts: 2,032	it raises the comp to about 10:1 i think i could be wrong dont hold me to that..and ive heard matt say hes expecting around 280-300 to the wheels.... __________________ 1998 mustang gt- Jlt RAI: Steeda Pullies: PI intake: PI cams: 4.10's: Hooker longtubes: Mac Prochamber: Flowmaster: Pro-kit spings: UPR C/C plates: steeda upr&lwr rear control arms: MM subframes: Tokico shocks & strutsLeave rep for helpful posts

March 24th, 2008, 11:24 AM	#64
MustangMatt96GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 12.91@105.29 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,291	im expecting about 300+/- 10 HP and monster TQ Reason being is that the Comp 270 isn't as aggressive as i wanted, but i would have had to get fly cuts to get that done. ANd it raises the Compression to 10.4:1 or so with a stock head. But mine are ported so, it should be around 10.2:1-10.3:1 __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

March 24th, 2008, 11:36 AM	#65
jlaw98gt Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 mustang gt 12.6@110 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cedar Grove NJ Posts: 2,032	so you settled....shame on you!! __________________ 1998 mustang gt- Jlt RAI: Steeda Pullies: PI intake: PI cams: 4.10's: Hooker longtubes: Mac Prochamber: Flowmaster: Pro-kit spings: UPR C/C plates: steeda upr&lwr rear control arms: MM subframes: Tokico shocks & strutsLeave rep for helpful posts

March 24th, 2008, 12:02 PM	#67
Uncle Humjaba Enthusiast 1996 Mustang GT Premium 15.2@91 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tracy, CA Posts: 533	Thanks for the help. My PI motor had one with the holes in it as well. Oh, and I won't be doing shorties because it's not in my budget. So far, I've spent $300 - PI intake (d'oh) -$100 sold npi intake $100 - entire PI motor -$100 sold pi intake -$60 used IAC off new motor when mine took a dump... prolly saved me some money $170 - gaskets/head swap kit $0 - carb cleaner and scotchbrite pads --------------------------------- $310 for entire swap how much are shorties? $300? for 5hp? no thanks __________________ "He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." Last edited by Uncle Humjaba : March 24th, 2008 at 12:08 PM.

March 24th, 2008, 12:08 PM	#68
MustangMatt96GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 12.91@105.29 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,291	Ujslost ur the one saying I had to pull the damn thing. WHen all i had to do was drain the fluid and take the fitting off! LOL I think the distruber is the coil pack bank instead of the COPs that shocker is talking about. __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

March 24th, 2008, 12:12 PM	#69
68 dlxcoupe Enthusiast 2004 Mach 1 13.30 @ 104.47 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Richmond, Virginia Posts: 862	You dont have to get flycut pistons for 270's. Im running stock pistons and as long as you degree them to the correct position you'll be fine, but whatever....... where'd you get your cams ground Matt?? and How much? __________________ EAGLE SCOUTS OR GTFO MyStangOpens (12:01:05 AM): honey nut for me

March 24th, 2008, 12:15 PM	#70
MustangMatt96GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 12.91@105.29 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,291	yeah the comp 270 will not need flycuts if degreed. Thats what im giong with. The cams i wanted were going to require flycuts. The cam i wanted was more agressive than the Comp 270. Comp ground my cams with out the 5º advance though. __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

March 24th, 2008, 12:17 PM	#71
68 dlxcoupe Enthusiast 2004 Mach 1 13.30 @ 104.47 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Richmond, Virginia Posts: 862	oh ok. How much did you pay for those?? __________________ EAGLE SCOUTS OR GTFO MyStangOpens (12:01:05 AM): honey nut for me

March 24th, 2008, 12:18 PM	#72
68 dlxcoupe Enthusiast 2004 Mach 1 13.30 @ 104.47 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Richmond, Virginia Posts: 862	BTW I'm going to tackle degreeing my cams today hopefully......I'm not looking forward to it. Its alright though i got Boomer to help me out. __________________ EAGLE SCOUTS OR GTFO MyStangOpens (12:01:05 AM): honey nut for me

March 24th, 2008, 12:23 PM	#73
MustangMatt96GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 12.91@105.29 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,291	yeah degreeing the cams seem to be pretty easy! Boomer has helped me a lot though this process as has Ujslost. Thanks guys! But I paid 675 shipped to my door for the cams. __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

March 24th, 2008, 12:41 PM	#74
68 dlxcoupe Enthusiast 2004 Mach 1 13.30 @ 104.47 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Richmond, Virginia Posts: 862	Word thats not too bad. What else are you going to be doing? I figured while everythings out I might as well replace the oil pump, waterpump, timing guides, chains, injectors, and all new cam gears, spacers, bolts, and what not. Oh yea I found out that all of comp cams take the 12MM bolt for the sprocket. Comp never told me that, so i found out the hard way gettin ready to install everything. Did you get your wiring harness out the way?? __________________ EAGLE SCOUTS OR GTFO MyStangOpens (12:01:05 AM): honey nut for me

March 24th, 2008, 12:45 PM	#75
MustangMatt96GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 12.91@105.29 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,291	naw i have nothing to do on the car but clean up the engine bay for the day... My heads will be here tommorow hopefully. I went with a Ported and Polished head, Hooker longtubes and these comp 270s. This thing should scream on the bottle. But im leaving everything else the way it was other than the bolts. I have ARP head studs going on. My comp cams came with gear bolts too. wierd. Next few weeks i should be getting 30 LB injectors and 255lph fuel pump. Water pump has less than 5000 miles on it, and the oil pump seems to work just fine. __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

March 24th, 2008, 12:53 PM	#76
68 dlxcoupe Enthusiast 2004 Mach 1 13.30 @ 104.47 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Richmond, Virginia Posts: 862	Sweet well let m eknow if you need any help with anything else. __________________ EAGLE SCOUTS OR GTFO MyStangOpens (12:01:05 AM): honey nut for me

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March 24th, 2008, 02:18 PM	#77
Tony_90fox MM Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,481	git-r-done

March 24th, 2008, 05:45 PM	#78
MustangMatt96GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 12.91@105.29 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,291	I got the rear drag springs in. But they were very very hard to do. I cant wait for the heads to show back up... In the mean while im going to start cleaning the timing cover and the valve covers. __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

March 24th, 2008, 09:40 PM	#80
MustangMatt96GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 12.91@105.29 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,291	thanks man. I plan on blowing up the bottom end this summer. Not intensionally. Aswell as ruining my axles. Next on the list is 31 spline locker, and axles. And then a 12.5:1 compression forged aluminum short block! i say that should make decent power on a direct port 200 shot. I would say I have about 2000-2500 in the swap. Been saving a while, and also been buying lots of stuff used... __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.