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Old June 26th, 2008, 11:32 PM   #61
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Originally Posted by TheUNZippee! View Post
Dan you are making a huge fucking mistake.

If I wind up being wrong, I will drive down there and shake your hand and apologize in person.

You already know my feelings on this.

I seems to me that you are basing your own feelings of self worth on the need to have a relationship. That just being in a relationship fulfills you. If you took care of you first and built your confidence up and thus your self esteem, you would be able to go out and meet new people and see that their are better options out there for you.

I promise you I know what I'm talking about on this.

I wish you the best though in whatever direction you choose to go in.
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so if ur daughter went to go try out for the basketball team in 7 years but she sucks ass and won't have a chance in hell of making the second cut, let alone the b squad, when she leaves for school that morning.... u gonna tell her not to bother, she's just wasting her time.

this is what i want overall, and honestly what i feel i need, otherwise i'm never gonna be more then what I am.
If you can't be all you are without a women, then you will never be all you are with one.

But hey man, it's your life, not mine.

Best of luck.
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Rags nobody is kicking you while you are down. What they are saying is true. I don't know what blissful fantasy world you're living in, but all of us see that the road you are going to take is going to lead to nothing but heartache.

This is like when you are young and your Dad tells you not to do something, because he knows from experience that it is a bad idea, and you do it anyway, then it crashes and burns and you say fuck me he was right.

He know how this is going to end. I wish you luck on whatever decision you make, but when it crashes and burns, don't expect me, or anybody else to feel sorry for you.
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Old June 27th, 2008, 12:11 AM   #65
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This realtionship kinda resembles the relationship between me and my car... It's like If I suddenly went, well I'll look past it's faults, end up buying a CAI and Tune and ten miles down the road the engine blows up...

Of course, that's just me... but I think I've heard my car knocking... or maybe it just sounds like that from time to time... or it's my mind playing tricks on me.

Anyways, Rags, please RECONSIDER!
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Dude, I for one was certainly not busting your balls. Just telling you that if it were me, I wouldn't be so overzealous as to hop into a marriage with a woman who's going through so much. There's a thing called physiological dependency, and I hope you're not stuck in such a relationship simply for the sake of "coupling" (coupling is a theory where everyone, no matter what their situation in life may be, wishes to be with another for the sake of self-sufficiency, loosely put into my own words but you get the drift).

Don't listen to these guys and drop her. If you care about her like you say that would be pretty harsh on your emotions to just end it cold turkey. But I would advise you to turn it down a notch. Now I'm not implying that you're rushing things, but marriage is certainly not something you want to rush into (unless you plan to rush out of it shortly thereafter).

One man's opinion. Do with it as you will. Best of luck in the near future bro. Forums should be here to help others, not harsh on 'em... I think everyone ought to keep that in mind in here.
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Old June 27th, 2008, 12:26 AM   #67
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CONGRATULATIONS.....even if personal oppinion is different then your own you still need to be congratulated and........ of course u must post pics of the strippers from your bachelor party!!!! Is that legal?
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ok woah, wait, WHAT?


i may be a lil biased comming from the other side of the law here, but DAMN rags... I hope she Doest fuck with you and hurt you like she did. Remember that all Great Things come to an end. Some for a GOOD reason. Somethings are ment to happen and somethings are welll... Put behind bars so we can learn from their mistakes... so we won't make those again.

I know its hard.

But let me put it in a perspective that my dad did to me when He showed me an ex of mines Rap sheet of 53 pages (aggrivated assult battery against 2 other females... OH but i thought he was a Changed man! (boy was fucking wrong.) So here it is.

Picture her like a Burning Building.... and you a lets say a Police Officer! (obviously not a firefighter and not capable of putting flames out. Wrong tools for the wrong Job).... The 4 walls and the roof are on fire.... Is it worth saving? Or just walking out of the building saving yourself?


good judge of character man.


Love ya rags.

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Zip, I probably read ur post10 or more times, stared at it for a good 20 minutes just letting it sink in...

Alot of what u said in that lil middle paragraph was as close to being on the nail a canadian trucker can get without actually getting inside my head..... but a lot of my reasons for making this decision actually stemmed from past conversations with u.

She's young, and she's made some real bad decisions in her life, and now she's had to come to terms with them. It's not like i went in there, and she begged me to marry her. We talked about her being pregnant, about being clean, and about what i wanted from her, and she wanted from me.

This isn't Rags picks up girl from jail and gets down on 1 knee.

I've been down this road with her before, some of u do know exactly what happened, but some of u don't. I fucked it up the first time hardcore. She was clean 4 months, and like an idiot i went out and got drugs one night because i wanted to get all fucked up and have fun with my GF....... so now we've got 2 ex drug abbusers 1 4 months clean, and the other 18months sitting in a room and i don't need to fill u in on the rest. 2 months later i woke up one day, and saw i had become exactly what i worked so hard to overcome. But i did it once....... i knew i could do it again..... but it was already to late for her.

we had both turned into complete tools and she wanted nothing to do with me once she realized saw what i had become. She may have had a drug problem earlier, but it was nothing compared to what went on in the 2 months i relapsed with her. So about 3 weeks into me coming to my senses, she left, because she wasn't strong enough.

and honestly i don't blame her. I remember everytime who wanted to get the drugs after i convinced her it was ok the 1 time. me. I reopened the door for her..... and I couldn't look myself in the mirror if i didn't take the blame thats rightfully mine.

karma's a bitch my friend. and i got burned.

Now we both have the oppurtunity to prove to eachother that we do in fact deserve eachother. This is Rags goes out into the real world, gets his own place, a full time job, and stop living the....... fill in the blank .... that i've been for the last 2 years. When she gets out, she goes straight to work. She's not just being released, but put on NYS probation which insists ur stay drug free and maintain a job if not going to school.

As of right now, when she gets out and gets a job where going to get a place together, and where going to give it another shot.
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All right bro. You know I mean it when I say I wish you both the best, and I'm not saying it as a back handed compliment. Just because I think it may be a mistake doesn't mean I wish either of you ill will. In fact I'll be happy for you if you both manage to move forward, make a life together and find some happiness.

Just remember something though Dan. What you are about to embark on takes a great deal of strength. And one must be happy with ones self first and completely and utterly confident, almost to the point of arrogance, before they can truly help someone who needs help finding their path in life.
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giving it another shot does NOT mean u have to marry her
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All right bro. You know I mean it when I say I wish you both the best, and I'm not saying it as a back handed compliment. Just because I think it may be a mistake doesn't mean I wish either of you ill will. In fact I'll be happy for you if you both manage to move forward, make a life together and find some happiness.

Just remember something though Dan. What you are about to embark on takes a great deal of strength. And one must be happy with ones self first and completely and utterly confident, almost to the point of arrogance, before they can truly help someone who needs help finding their path in life.
I''m putting my name on the FDNY recruitment list, getting a full time job, and putting my life back together. These were all things I started doing before all this drama resurfaced

All this has done is given me even more reasons to want it.
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dont let anyone discourage you rags, be thankful they care enough to warn you of what could happen, but to me you are well aware of what could happen, and no one knows what will happen...if you truely wanna turn your life around, and you wanna help her turn her life around, i think thats awesome...i mean people do rotten things, and many people keep doing rotten things, but theres a point where people can change, and if no one is willing to care and keep trying, there will always be rotten people...its a long, tough road but possible to travel...but caring enough to want to help her and yourself is a great first step, cause what is giving up gonna get you? no where, and in your case i really hope she'll truely appreciate what you are doing for her and wont screw you over again, but if things dont work out thats just life, but dont feel like you're wasting your time, because people can change, best of luck man
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she got out today, went home with her family and got herself in a church program to help set her life straight.

then she told me she's sorry, she's been lieing to me and stringing me along, and that were over. theres no chance, and never will be again. she said she couldn't live with herself doing this to me, and told me she still wanted me in her life, as a friend...

i hate my life, and I'm glad i fucked that girl on the 4th of July
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that will be great stroy to tell your kids
 
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hate to say i told you so... but I hope you learned something out of this man.
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no. of course I would tell her good luck but if she was trying to marry an assbag I wouldn't even show up at the wedding but I would sure as hell show up at the divorce the next year.

lmfao. ^ ^ ^

good luck rags.. it sounds like one jerry springer story but good luck
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Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop View Post
she got out today, went home with her family and got herself in a church program to help set her life straight.

then she told me she's sorry, she's been lieing to me and stringing me along, and that were over. theres no chance, and never will be again. she said she couldn't live with herself doing this to me, and told me she still wanted me in her life, as a friend...

i hate my life, and I'm glad i fucked that girl on the 4th of July
Can't say I didn't expect this... but at least she came out straight before ruining your life.
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