[JBIGBOOTSY]

No MSO unfortunatlly, I'm just a guy that dosent want a gun. I've had them before. I just don't want them in the house(kids). and I've never had to overtake a government either.

[ReverendDexter]

Originally Posted by JBIGBOOTSY I don't need a gun. I have good police, and I believe most people are good. Are "arms" hand guns, slingshots, or neuculear weapons?

I got this from 'People are Basically Good' - Proof to the Contrary, however you can find information on these experiments in many places.

Experimental evidence of human depravity

A number of psychologists have performed controlled experiments that demonstrate the level of depravity that people can stoop to. In the age of human subject's rights and human subjects review boards, none of these experiments would be allowed to be performed today, because of the extreme stress placed upon many of the subjects. However, at the time, most of the experiments were reproduced by other investigators with similar results, so we know that they represent true human reactions and capacity for evil.
Stanley Morgan's electrocution study

Following the atrocities of Nazi Germany during World War II, psychologist Stanley Milgram designed an experiment to examine the degree to which people would comply with immoral commands from authority.2 A teacher (the experimental subject) and a learner (a confederate of the experimenter) were supposedly examining the effect of punishment (electric shock) on learning. The learner was strapped into a chair on the other side of a barrier (but within hearing distance). The teacher was instructed to read a list of two word pairs and ask the learner to repeat them back. If the learner got the answer correct, then they moved on to the next set. If the answer was incorrect, the teacher was supposed to shock the learner, beginning at 15 volts. The simulated shock generator consisted 30 switches in 15 volt increments, up to 450 volts, along with a rating, ranging from "slight shock" to "danger: severe shock". The final two switches were labeled "XXX". The teacher was instructed to automatically increase the shock setting each time the learner missed a word in the list. To make add to the authenticity of the shock generator, the teacher was given a real shock from a 45 volt battery prior to the start of the experiment.

No experimental subject hesitated to give shocks up to 300 volts. However, at that point, the learner pounded the wall between the himself and the teacher and refused to answer. The teacher was instructed that no response was to be considered a wrong answer and to increase the voltage and administer the next shock. If the subject hesitated or complained, the following prods were given to attempt compliance:

1. Please continue.
2. The experiment requires that you continue
3. It is absolutely essential that you continue
4. You have no other choice, you must go on.

Twenty-six of the 40 subjects continued to shock the learner up to the maximum setting of 450 volts. Although Dr. Milgram's colleagues had predicted that only 3% of subjects would continue to the maximum voltage, 65% actually did so, even though they believed that the shocks they had given were extremely painful.
Philip Zimbardo's Stanford prison experiment

Following the Attica and other prison riots of the early 1970's, Pyschologist Philip Zimbardo embarked upon an examination of the effect of simulated prison conditions on normal human subjects.3 Comparable groups of students were randomly assigned to be either "guards" or "prisoners" in Stanford University's simulated prison. However, to make the experiment seem more real, those assigned to be "prisoners" were "arrested" by the Stanford Police Department, cuffed and booked before being turned over to the Stanford jail. Within a day, there were conflicts between the "prisoners" and the "guards", which resulted in the beginning of harsh treatment of the "prisoners". Some of the "troublemakers" were put into solitary confinement or stripped of clothing and made to sleep on the floor. The "prisoners" eventually became compliant, even though they could quit the experiment at any time. The treatment by the "guards" continued to deteriorate to the point that the experiment had to be ended on the sixth day. None of the "guards" protested the evil actions of their "coworkers".
Solomon Asch's conformity experiments

Psychologist Solomon Asch performed a number of experiments to determine the degree to which experimental subjects will go along with the majority - even if they know the majority is wrong. The setup was simple - an experimental subject, along with a number of the experimenter's confederates, was to look at two cards and determine which line on one card matched one of three lines on another card. The lengths of the lines were sufficiently different that there was no question what the right answer was. Even so, one third of subjects lied about which lines matched just to go along with the group. Although the "sin" committed seems pretty innocuous, conformity to the majority has resulted in the support of human atrocities by some pretty evil regimes throughout history.
Moral hypocrisy

In another set of experiments, subjects were asked to assign two different tasks - one to themselves and another to another (nonexistent) participant.5 One task was interesting and resulted in a reward, whereas the second was boring and unrewarded. Predictably, most subjects assigned the interesting task to themselves. When told that they could use a coin flip to assign the task, only about half used the coin toss. However, of those who used the coin toss, the majority still assigned the better task to themselves - even when they lost the coin toss.

[MSO]

Originally Posted by JBIGBOOTSY No MSO unfortunatlly, I'm just a guy that dosent want a gun. I've had them before. I just don't want them in the house(kids). and I've never had to overtake a government either.

now im trying to overthrow the government and im gonna hear this everytime i see you on MM

you're such an immature person masquerading as an intelligent member of society

take ur liberal, instigating ass out of here, as FM1R put it, you're only here to stir up shit

[02MustangV6e9]

...and you're letting him. ignore him.

[MSO]

you're right

this thread should be closed tho.. it almost went off without a hitch

[06RedfireGT]

I see nothing wrong with this thread

[JBIGBOOTSY]

Originally Posted by MSO you're right this thread should be closed tho.. it almost went off without a hitch

Untill you called me a fool. Also telling me I'm here just to stirr up shit? That is the pot calling the kettle black.

[03_StangGuy]

Honestly you guys are looking at this the wrong way. The government was made to protect the men that made it, the guys the wrote it did so to protect the way of life they knew back in the 1700s which is totally different than how we live today. Where problems come in is our interpretation. For example, "All men are created equal" Which they truely believed except that they didnt see slaves as men. Thats just one example, but my point being that nothin is perfect even though it may seem that way. Just be happy that you work and make money to support the life you want to live. Hell half the world srtuggles to make it through the day and we argue bs all day. It may not be perfect but it sure beats not even being able to discuss the issue or have a vote.