seat belts

WVSNS& · December 21st, 2005, 04:32 PM

Why do so many people not wear the seatbelt? I need it to keep me in the car.

john

AtlanticBlue99 · December 21st, 2005, 04:42 PM

i dont know. im 17 and some of my friends think it is cool to not wear one. i wear one ALL the time and when a passenger in my car doesnt wear one, i will drive hard and turn sharp and shit to scare the shit out of them just because some people need a damn wake up call. not wearing one puts a larger burden on our hospitals and funerals out there. we lose valuable members and contributors to society everyday because they refuse to buckle up. i think fines for not buckling up should be much higher than the 75 dollars it is around here in E GA

Cricket · December 21st, 2005, 04:51 PM

I tell people this car will not move until they put it on or they can walk.

99mustang232 · December 21st, 2005, 05:20 PM

darwin's theroy!

in va the driver can get a ticket if the passenger is not buckled up... you know the saying "click-it or ticket"

AtlanticBlue99 · December 21st, 2005, 05:28 PM

yea same in GA. but my friends think it is cool to dui and not buckle up. they will find out the consequences the hard way someday

Horseshoeing · December 21st, 2005, 05:54 PM

I don't think it should be the law for me to wear a seatbelt. I will not let anyone wear a seatbelt in my Mustang.

AtlanticBlue99 · December 21st, 2005, 05:57 PM

b/c it doesnt have seatbelts or b/c you dont like the law?

the reason it is a law is because society depends on useful and productive members not getting hurt all the time. basically, a law is broken when an act of self intrest that does not benefit society is performed. that is why it is illegal to not wear seatbelts. not wearing a seatbelt can in no way benefit society like wearing one can. it is a crime against humanity i guess

Horseshoeing · December 21st, 2005, 06:08 PM

No seat belts in the 66 Mustang lol. If it is for the better for all of us, then why don't school buses have them? If I want to drive a unsafe car(66 Mustang) they don't stop me. I don't think it is right for the state to tell me by gun point, that I have to wear a seat belt.

AtlanticBlue99 · December 21st, 2005, 06:18 PM

not by gun point lol. but the gov't makes the rules and b/c of money allowances, they dont make them for busses or commercial transportation for that matter. it isnt fair, but it makes sense. you have more chance of dieing in a car than a bus or or subway b/c of no seatbelt.

but emissions and safety testing only goes back like 15-17 years because dmv thinks vehicles older than that are undesirable and not driven. boy are they wrong!

87vert · December 21st, 2005, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by Horseshoeing

No seat belts in the 66 Mustang lol. If it is for the better for all of us, then why don't school buses have them? If I want to drive a unsafe car(66 Mustang) they don't stop me. I don't think it is right for the state to tell me by gun point, that I have to wear a seat belt.

you dont have to wear your seatbelt, they can give you a ticket but you dont have to pay that either.

2000Si · December 21st, 2005, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99

i dont know. im 17 and some of my friends think it is cool to not wear one. i wear one ALL the time and when a passenger in my car doesnt wear one, i will drive hard and turn sharp and shit to scare the shit out of them just because some people need a damn wake up call. not wearing one puts a larger burden on our hospitals and funerals out there. we lose valuable members and contributors to society everyday because they refuse to buckle up. i think fines for not buckling up should be much higher than the 75 dollars it is around here in E GA

damn... the fine is only 25 here in NE indiana.

2000Si · December 21st, 2005, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by Horseshoeing

No seat belts in the 66 Mustang lol. If it is for the better for all of us, then why don't school buses have them? If I want to drive a unsafe car(66 Mustang) they don't stop me. I don't think it is right for the state to tell me by gun point, that I have to wear a seat belt.

Because school buses are manufactured with so much more strength and safety features already in mind than a car is. The history channel did a special on school buses a while back. Blue Bird had them touring the plant and they discussed the safety features - which are set to tougher standards than for any passenger automobile, and they pass with more than enough to satisfy state and federal safety specifications.

AtlanticBlue99 · December 22nd, 2005, 09:48 AM

only 25$ in IN James? i am glad it is higher here just because as much as it angers me that my friends dont like to buckle up, i would never want to lose one of them to such a stupid mistake.

this is a great topic btw

WVSNS& · December 22nd, 2005, 10:12 AM

maybe natural selection is the key here...I just hat paying for others' stupidity and or less than smart behavior.

john

Cricket · December 22nd, 2005, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by 2000Si

Originally Posted by Horseshoeing

No seat belts in the 66 Mustang lol. If it is for the better for all of us, then why don't school buses have them? If I want to drive a unsafe car(66 Mustang) they don't stop me. I don't think it is right for the state to tell me by gun point, that I have to wear a seat belt.

Because school buses are manufactured with so much more strength and safety features already in mind than a car is. The history channel did a special on school buses a while back. Blue Bird had them touring the plant and they discussed the safety features - which are set to tougher standards than for any passenger automobile, and they pass with more than enough to satisfy state and federal safety specifications.

There was a proposal in the senate that some buses should be required to have seat belts. They were going by weight. If the vehicle is more than 10,000 pounds it should have seat belts. I don't know if it has been passed or what has happened.

WVSNS& · December 22nd, 2005, 10:35 AM

That is interesting, I will have to see if I can find that. W/all the accidents that seem to plague the tidewater area maybe that should start on school buses asap.

Horseshoeing · December 22nd, 2005, 07:01 PM

It is safer to drive in a car with out a seatbelt then ride my Harley. Don't give me that trash that I have to wear my seatbelt for the better of society. If I don't They could throw me in jail. What is wrong with you guys? Is it good to wear your seatbelt........yes. Should it be a law........Hell no. Maybe they should make a law that you should not over eat or No drink beer. It would be for the better of society. School buses can run off the road or get hit by a train and the poor kids inside go flying like a bird. Buses need seatbelts.

AtlanticBlue99 · December 22nd, 2005, 07:04 PM

it is better for society to wear a seatbelt. name a circumstance where not wearing a seatbelt is more beneficial to society than wearing one.

Horseshoeing · December 22nd, 2005, 07:13 PM

Freedom to do what you want. That is it in a nut shell. It don't hurt you if I don't wear a seatbelt. What do you care? I do think that kids should wear seatbelts and babys should be in carseats.

AtlanticBlue99 · December 22nd, 2005, 07:18 PM

that is what makes it a crime. it doesnt hurt you, but it does hurt society. it is burdensome for the gov't or people to pay for a poor person who gets in a wreck for not wearing a seatbelt, then have to pay for his medical expenses. seeing as how hospitals can't turn away patients, but patients can stroll in without insurance and be hurt from a preventable act such as not wearing a seatbelt- this makes it a crime. i think it is a fair crime. the social benefits of wearing a seatbelt far outweigh the personal benefits of not wearing one

December 21st, 2005, 04:32 PM	#1
WVSNS& Regular 2001 Mustang Cobra Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: va beach Posts: 191	seat belts Why do so many people not wear the seatbelt? I need it to keep me in the car. john

December 21st, 2005, 04:42 PM	#2
AtlanticBlue99 Modded Autos Site Mod 1999 Ford Mustang V6 14.79 @ 92.15 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Evans, GA/Athens, GA Posts: 7,249	i dont know. im 17 and some of my friends think it is cool to not wear one. i wear one ALL the time and when a passenger in my car doesnt wear one, i will drive hard and turn sharp and shit to scare the shit out of them just because some people need a damn wake up call. not wearing one puts a larger burden on our hospitals and funerals out there. we lose valuable members and contributors to society everyday because they refuse to buckle up. i think fines for not buckling up should be much higher than the 75 dollars it is around here in E GA __________________ ModdedAutos 1999 Mustang V6 I used to list my mods here but stopped when I exceeded 255 characters.

December 21st, 2005, 05:20 PM	#4
99mustang232 MM Fanatic 1999 Ford Mustang V6 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: newport news, va Posts: 3,719	darwin's theroy! in va the driver can get a ticket if the passenger is not buckled up... you know the saying "click-it or ticket" __________________ ...even fire and single cammin

December 21st, 2005, 05:28 PM	#5
AtlanticBlue99 Modded Autos Site Mod 1999 Ford Mustang V6 14.79 @ 92.15 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Evans, GA/Athens, GA Posts: 7,249	yea same in GA. but my friends think it is cool to dui and not buckle up. they will find out the consequences the hard way someday __________________ ModdedAutos 1999 Mustang V6 I used to list my mods here but stopped when I exceeded 255 characters.

December 21st, 2005, 05:57 PM	#7
AtlanticBlue99 Modded Autos Site Mod 1999 Ford Mustang V6 14.79 @ 92.15 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Evans, GA/Athens, GA Posts: 7,249	b/c it doesnt have seatbelts or b/c you dont like the law? the reason it is a law is because society depends on useful and productive members not getting hurt all the time. basically, a law is broken when an act of self intrest that does not benefit society is performed. that is why it is illegal to not wear seatbelts. not wearing a seatbelt can in no way benefit society like wearing one can. it is a crime against humanity i guess __________________ ModdedAutos 1999 Mustang V6 I used to list my mods here but stopped when I exceeded 255 characters.

December 21st, 2005, 05:54 PM	#6
Horseshoeing Classic Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: GA Posts: 4,179	I don't think it should be the law for me to wear a seatbelt. I will not let anyone wear a seatbelt in my Mustang.

December 21st, 2005, 06:08 PM	#8
Horseshoeing Classic Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: GA Posts: 4,179	No seat belts in the 66 Mustang lol. If it is for the better for all of us, then why don't school buses have them? If I want to drive a unsafe car(66 Mustang) they don't stop me. I don't think it is right for the state to tell me by gun point, that I have to wear a seat belt.

December 21st, 2005, 06:18 PM	#9
AtlanticBlue99 Modded Autos Site Mod 1999 Ford Mustang V6 14.79 @ 92.15 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Evans, GA/Athens, GA Posts: 7,249	not by gun point lol. but the gov't makes the rules and b/c of money allowances, they dont make them for busses or commercial transportation for that matter. it isnt fair, but it makes sense. you have more chance of dieing in a car than a bus or or subway b/c of no seatbelt. but emissions and safety testing only goes back like 15-17 years because dmv thinks vehicles older than that are undesirable and not driven. boy are they wrong! __________________ ModdedAutos 1999 Mustang V6 I used to list my mods here but stopped when I exceeded 255 characters.

December 22nd, 2005, 09:48 AM	#13
AtlanticBlue99 Modded Autos Site Mod 1999 Ford Mustang V6 14.79 @ 92.15 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Evans, GA/Athens, GA Posts: 7,249	only 25$ in IN James? i am glad it is higher here just because as much as it angers me that my friends dont like to buckle up, i would never want to lose one of them to such a stupid mistake. this is a great topic btw __________________ ModdedAutos 1999 Mustang V6 I used to list my mods here but stopped when I exceeded 255 characters.

December 22nd, 2005, 10:12 AM	#14
WVSNS& Regular 2001 Mustang Cobra Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: va beach Posts: 191	- maybe natural selection is the key here...I just hat paying for others' stupidity and or less than smart behavior. john

December 22nd, 2005, 10:35 AM	#16
WVSNS& Regular 2001 Mustang Cobra Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: va beach Posts: 191	% That is interesting, I will have to see if I can find that. W/all the accidents that seem to plague the tidewater area maybe that should start on school buses asap.

December 22nd, 2005, 07:01 PM	#17
Horseshoeing Classic Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: GA Posts: 4,179	It is safer to drive in a car with out a seatbelt then ride my Harley. Don't give me that trash that I have to wear my seatbelt for the better of society. If I don't They could throw me in jail. What is wrong with you guys? Is it good to wear your seatbelt........yes. Should it be a law........Hell no. Maybe they should make a law that you should not over eat or No drink beer. It would be for the better of society. School buses can run off the road or get hit by a train and the poor kids inside go flying like a bird. Buses need seatbelts.

December 22nd, 2005, 07:04 PM	#18
AtlanticBlue99 Modded Autos Site Mod 1999 Ford Mustang V6 14.79 @ 92.15 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Evans, GA/Athens, GA Posts: 7,249	it is better for society to wear a seatbelt. name a circumstance where not wearing a seatbelt is more beneficial to society than wearing one. __________________ ModdedAutos 1999 Mustang V6 I used to list my mods here but stopped when I exceeded 255 characters.

December 22nd, 2005, 07:13 PM	#19
Horseshoeing Classic Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: GA Posts: 4,179	Freedom to do what you want. That is it in a nut shell. It don't hurt you if I don't wear a seatbelt. What do you care? I do think that kids should wear seatbelts and babys should be in carseats.

December 22nd, 2005, 07:18 PM	#20
AtlanticBlue99 Modded Autos Site Mod 1999 Ford Mustang V6 14.79 @ 92.15 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Evans, GA/Athens, GA Posts: 7,249	that is what makes it a crime. it doesnt hurt you, but it does hurt society. it is burdensome for the gov't or people to pay for a poor person who gets in a wreck for not wearing a seatbelt, then have to pay for his medical expenses. seeing as how hospitals can't turn away patients, but patients can stroll in without insurance and be hurt from a preventable act such as not wearing a seatbelt- this makes it a crime. i think it is a fair crime. the social benefits of wearing a seatbelt far outweigh the personal benefits of not wearing one __________________ ModdedAutos 1999 Mustang V6 I used to list my mods here but stopped when I exceeded 255 characters.

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