The Beast Part 3

97GT4.6 · November 7th, 2008, 01:40 AM

..and the best part of all, the npi vikki engine and his old t45 are going into my car, with mods.. maybe these patriot heads with the 270's or something else. but im stoked.

oh but matts car is always gonna be faster than mine

04mustang232 · November 7th, 2008, 09:05 AM

lucky shit

MustangMatt96GT · November 7th, 2008, 01:12 PM

Yea, Scott I will start pulling the tranny soon... It should be a quick thing to do. But the engine I am going to have to buy a Cherry Picker for first. I got lots going on, but the tranny is a quick 3 hour or less job!

04mustang232 · November 7th, 2008, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by MustangMatt96GT

Yea, Scott I will start pulling the tranny soon... It should be a quick thing to do. But the engine I am going to have to buy a Cherry Picker for first. I got lots going on, but the tranny is a quick 3 hour or less job!

too bad you dont live near me, i could let you borrow mine for a weekend. But since your building a strict drag car, its a good investment for the future.

MustangMatt96GT · November 7th, 2008, 08:57 PM

I useally borrow one, but i want one of my own so i can take my time and have a way to move a few engines around...

MustangMatt96GT · November 9th, 2008, 03:17 PM

Well the tranny is out! took us an hour and half to two hours last night. My buddy jeff and I, I should say. Turns out good thing we are doing this, because god damn, my clutch did not want to have anymore nitrous passes... i pulled it out and it was fraying at the end. I have since torn those pieces off, but I dont think the King Cobra Clutch wanted 400+ FPTQ any more... haha

But i will try and get some pictures up of the removal last night.

I will be picking up my 351W on Tuesday after school, before work. Pictures will come of that as well.

MustangMatt96GT · November 12th, 2008, 01:15 AM

Well the time has come! Car is really going to haul balls next season!

More to come tommorow....but damn this has got to be the cleanest engine on the inside i have ever worked on...

I have the parts list for the C4 worked out as well... And will be purchasing as soon as i have enough cash to build it... Turns out the tranny is a 70+ tranny and i can do what i want with it!

Anyway. i will know more about the pistons and rods tomorrow, as i will be pulling these heads off tomorrow durning lunch.

Tony_90fox · November 12th, 2008, 03:04 AM

what year block is that? I dont know about the engine being clean. How long since ran? I wonder what the piston walls look like? Any set plans on the engine? I can tell you where to go for a good solid roller cam and heads. Also a great carb if you're going that route. Feel free to PM me and I can give you some details on my 393 build.

MustangMatt96GT · November 12th, 2008, 10:24 AM

yeah, as soon as I hve it apart I can start planning my build... But I should have said the cleanest engine on the inside. All those little crumbs are stff I knocked in. I did not wipe anything out, or anything like that.

futureMACH1racer · November 12th, 2008, 10:32 AM

Awesome Matt, that sounds like it's going to be pure sex when you get done. I love the Windsor engines.

MustangMatt96GT · November 12th, 2008, 05:03 PM

looks to be a set of 69 heads... C90E are the casting number... Have it down to the short block right now. Once I get back home from school it's all coming apart...

Tony_90fox · November 12th, 2008, 05:28 PM

get those heads in the machine shop...Some people like to put those bigger 351 heads on 302 engines...could make a few bucks off them.

Mickey · November 12th, 2008, 06:21 PM

looks fun man...i wish i had my car in highschool so i could use my garage...fucking college...

MustangMatt96GT · November 12th, 2008, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Tony_90fox

get those heads in the machine shop...Some people like to put those bigger 351 heads on 302 engines...could make a few bucks off them.

Yes. you may call me stupid though, but I may even stay with Iron Heads for right now... That will save me some money, i can have them ported and what not yes, but use that money on the bottom end (408). And then after next season i jump up on the heads. I need to talk to a few guys. There are two guys locally that both build engines for a living. I am going to call Mike, the guy that does all the machine work and what not on the 64 289 heads and see what he thinks. If I don't spend the money i have on the bottom end, and just some forged .030 over pistons, then I will be all set on some nice aluminum heads, but if I need new rods and what not i might just go with a stroker kit for that 1800-2200 bucks and say next year i will jump up the top end. Remember I am limited to 11.50s until I graduate aswell. I am hoping to use my graduation money to put in an 8 point chromoly custom bent cage.

Tony_90fox · November 12th, 2008, 08:28 PM

you could use those heads on a stroker motor...However, you won't be able to pull up to the RPMs you could with a better top end. It would have alot of TQ, but not much HP.

I spent about 3700 dollars for my top end. (cam up)...I could have done it ALOT cheaper but I'm doing this build right with all the good shit... I'm hoping for mid to low 9s with nitrous.

MustangMatt96GT · November 13th, 2008, 12:48 AM

Well Scott came over and helped out today! He also picked up some Comp 270s out of my boxes of parts and a T45.

But I think the plan is for a 408 now! It didn't have forged pistons or anything special in it. Although its a Short Deck block. 9.480" deck meaning it will be high compression. So stock headed (mildly ported) with a nice cam, intake, and carb. This will also be on a High Compression 408 setup! Later on i can do the heads if needed.

Here are some pictures of the motor... OH an tony, the top end looked worlds cleaner than the bottom end, but it is very clean still (doesnt show in the picutres)

Will be updating with plans as I go. But I should be buying the parts to overhaul that C4 within the month(2 weeks or so)... And that build will come first, while this block is at the machine shop and the heads are. But 408 is the plan at the moment.

06RedfireGT · November 13th, 2008, 12:54 AM

Good stuff man.

MustangMatt96GT · November 13th, 2008, 01:43 AM

Just totaled up my Transmission build cost without the converter....

1306.95 plus 12.95 for shipping... But that is alright... full reverse manual valve body, transbrake... built to last... Oh and without a shifter...

futureMACH1racer · November 13th, 2008, 02:16 AM

I love what you're doing here man. It's good to see a young guy like you doing it yourself. Keep up the good work man.

MustangMatt96GT · November 13th, 2008, 11:59 AM

Thanks Guys...

I cant stand paying somebody to do something i am capable of doing. I would probably not want a carreer out of working on engines and what not, but maybe through an engineering stand point. I will alsway love working on mine though...

BTW anybody know what this cam is? It says on on part RYB12 and the other part D107.

November 7th, 2008, 01:40 AM	#21
97GT4.6 Hardcore Enthusiast 97 GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fort Collins and Pueblo, Colorado Posts: 2,184	..and the best part of all, the npi vikki engine and his old t45 are going into my car, with mods.. maybe these patriot heads with the 270's or something else. but im stoked. oh but matts car is always gonna be faster than mine __________________ Cammed 2v Rules for Life: With Cars: Fast, Cheap, Reliable, Pick TWO With Women: Hot, Single, Mentally Stable, Pick TWO

November 7th, 2008, 01:12 PM	#23
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 8,131	Yea, Scott I will start pulling the tranny soon... It should be a quick thing to do. But the engine I am going to have to buy a Cherry Picker for first. I got lots going on, but the tranny is a quick 3 hour or less job! __________________ 1996 Mustang GT with a 351 swap with Stalled C4 1997 F250 Powerstroke 1999 28' Classic Dominator Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions & Thanks for the help: PoorManMotorSports "Just Cause its Smoking, don't mean its broken"

November 7th, 2008, 08:57 PM	#25
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 8,131	I useally borrow one, but i want one of my own so i can take my time and have a way to move a few engines around... __________________ 1996 Mustang GT with a 351 swap with Stalled C4 1997 F250 Powerstroke 1999 28' Classic Dominator Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions & Thanks for the help: PoorManMotorSports "Just Cause its Smoking, don't mean its broken"

November 9th, 2008, 03:17 PM	#26
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 8,131	Well the tranny is out! took us an hour and half to two hours last night. My buddy jeff and I, I should say. Turns out good thing we are doing this, because god damn, my clutch did not want to have anymore nitrous passes... i pulled it out and it was fraying at the end. I have since torn those pieces off, but I dont think the King Cobra Clutch wanted 400+ FPTQ any more... haha But i will try and get some pictures up of the removal last night. I will be picking up my 351W on Tuesday after school, before work. Pictures will come of that as well. __________________ 1996 Mustang GT with a 351 swap with Stalled C4 1997 F250 Powerstroke 1999 28' Classic Dominator Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions & Thanks for the help: PoorManMotorSports "Just Cause its Smoking, don't mean its broken"

November 12th, 2008, 01:15 AM	#27
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 8,131	Well the time has come! Car is really going to haul balls next season! More to come tommorow....but damn this has got to be the cleanest engine on the inside i have ever worked on... I have the parts list for the C4 worked out as well... And will be purchasing as soon as i have enough cash to build it... Turns out the tranny is a 70+ tranny and i can do what i want with it! Anyway. i will know more about the pistons and rods tomorrow, as i will be pulling these heads off tomorrow durning lunch. __________________ 1996 Mustang GT with a 351 swap with Stalled C4 1997 F250 Powerstroke 1999 28' Classic Dominator Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions & Thanks for the help: PoorManMotorSports "Just Cause its Smoking, don't mean its broken"

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November 12th, 2008, 03:04 AM	#28
Tony_90fox Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,833	what year block is that? I dont know about the engine being clean. How long since ran? I wonder what the piston walls look like? Any set plans on the engine? I can tell you where to go for a good solid roller cam and heads. Also a great carb if you're going that route. Feel free to PM me and I can give you some details on my 393 build.

November 12th, 2008, 10:24 AM	#29
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 8,131	yeah, as soon as I hve it apart I can start planning my build... But I should have said the cleanest engine on the inside. All those little crumbs are stff I knocked in. I did not wipe anything out, or anything like that. __________________ 1996 Mustang GT with a 351 swap with Stalled C4 1997 F250 Powerstroke 1999 28' Classic Dominator Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions & Thanks for the help: PoorManMotorSports "Just Cause its Smoking, don't mean its broken"

November 12th, 2008, 10:32 AM	#30
futureMACH1racer Moderator 2003 Jeep Too Slow Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 5,099	Awesome Matt, that sounds like it's going to be pure sex when you get done. I love the Windsor engines. __________________ Farming America For America Jake's PIITB Crew-Founder

November 12th, 2008, 05:03 PM	#31
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 8,131	looks to be a set of 69 heads... C90E are the casting number... Have it down to the short block right now. Once I get back home from school it's all coming apart... __________________ 1996 Mustang GT with a 351 swap with Stalled C4 1997 F250 Powerstroke 1999 28' Classic Dominator Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions & Thanks for the help: PoorManMotorSports "Just Cause its Smoking, don't mean its broken"

November 12th, 2008, 05:28 PM	#32
Tony_90fox Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,833	get those heads in the machine shop...Some people like to put those bigger 351 heads on 302 engines...could make a few bucks off them.

November 12th, 2008, 06:21 PM	#33
Mickey I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,842	looks fun man...i wish i had my car in highschool so i could use my garage...fucking college... __________________ 488rwhp @ 6.9psi

November 12th, 2008, 08:28 PM	#35
Tony_90fox Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,833	you could use those heads on a stroker motor...However, you won't be able to pull up to the RPMs you could with a better top end. It would have alot of TQ, but not much HP. I spent about 3700 dollars for my top end. (cam up)...I could have done it ALOT cheaper but I'm doing this build right with all the good shit... I'm hoping for mid to low 9s with nitrous.

November 13th, 2008, 12:48 AM	#36
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 8,131	Well Scott came over and helped out today! He also picked up some Comp 270s out of my boxes of parts and a T45. But I think the plan is for a 408 now! It didn't have forged pistons or anything special in it. Although its a Short Deck block. 9.480" deck meaning it will be high compression. So stock headed (mildly ported) with a nice cam, intake, and carb. This will also be on a High Compression 408 setup! Later on i can do the heads if needed. Here are some pictures of the motor... OH an tony, the top end looked worlds cleaner than the bottom end, but it is very clean still (doesnt show in the picutres) Will be updating with plans as I go. But I should be buying the parts to overhaul that C4 within the month(2 weeks or so)... And that build will come first, while this block is at the machine shop and the heads are. But 408 is the plan at the moment. __________________ 1996 Mustang GT with a 351 swap with Stalled C4 1997 F250 Powerstroke 1999 28' Classic Dominator Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions & Thanks for the help: PoorManMotorSports "Just Cause its Smoking, don't mean its broken"

November 13th, 2008, 01:43 AM	#38
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 8,131	Just totaled up my Transmission build cost without the converter.... 1306.95 plus 12.95 for shipping... But that is alright... full reverse manual valve body, transbrake... built to last... Oh and without a shifter... __________________ 1996 Mustang GT with a 351 swap with Stalled C4 1997 F250 Powerstroke 1999 28' Classic Dominator Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions & Thanks for the help: PoorManMotorSports "Just Cause its Smoking, don't mean its broken"

November 13th, 2008, 02:16 AM	#39
futureMACH1racer Moderator 2003 Jeep Too Slow Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 5,099	I love what you're doing here man. It's good to see a young guy like you doing it yourself. Keep up the good work man. __________________ Farming America For America Jake's PIITB Crew-Founder

November 13th, 2008, 11:59 AM	#40
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 8,131	Thanks Guys... I cant stand paying somebody to do something i am capable of doing. I would probably not want a carreer out of working on engines and what not, but maybe through an engineering stand point. I will alsway love working on mine though... BTW anybody know what this cam is? It says on on part RYB12 and the other part D107. __________________ 1996 Mustang GT with a 351 swap with Stalled C4 1997 F250 Powerstroke 1999 28' Classic Dominator Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions & Thanks for the help: PoorManMotorSports "Just Cause its Smoking, don't mean its broken"

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