mach1 vs 04 cobra?

blue03mach1 · October 22nd, 2009, 06:18 PM

my mods are in sig... will i have a chance against a stock convert cobra? my mach1 beats my roush 427r. i know there is a weight difference .

ReverendDexter · October 22nd, 2009, 06:22 PM

The advantage you have over the Termie is gears and some weight (likely a lot of weight, probably 400 lbs). I'd say it'll come down to the drivers and the format of the race.

pyschopath76 · October 22nd, 2009, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by ReverendDexter

The advantage you have over the Termie is gears and some weight (likely a lot of weight, probably 400 lbs). I'd say it'll come down to the drivers and the format of the race.

+1.

AzSonicSnake · October 22nd, 2009, 06:34 PM

honestly, the two 427r's i have raced have been kinda slow. i would still say it would come down to the driver vs the cobra. i have seen some cobras run some fairly crappy #'s...

Mach Boy · October 22nd, 2009, 08:19 PM

I'd give a slight advantage to the Termi especially if it is from a roll. Rolls take his weight out of the equation pretty much and negates your advantage with the 4.10s.

AMmuslGT · October 22nd, 2009, 08:38 PM

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slick427r · October 22nd, 2009, 11:24 PM

Hmm lets see, 03 mach 1 4.6 v8, 04 cobra 4.6 v8 WITH a supercharger
Cobra FTW!

06RedfireGT · October 23rd, 2009, 10:50 AM

Let's keep the flaming in the Burnout Box.

Smoothgrandmama · October 23rd, 2009, 11:50 AM

Against the stock Vert you should win handily. but end the race quickle if this is gonna be 140mph street race then he'll catch you.

blue03mach1 · October 23rd, 2009, 12:19 PM

so if we run to like end of my 4th around 120mph? i should have him?

Smoothgrandmama · October 23rd, 2009, 12:22 PM

From a Dig yes. Termi's run hard but a stock termi only runs 12.5-12.9 a vert closer to 12.7-13.1

I just would give him a chance on top......That eaton will pump out the power all the way too the rev limiter @ 6650 and when he shifts down to 4000-4500 it will hit hard....
The t-56 shifts like this
1st 40mph
2nd 80mph
3rd 120mph

blue03mach1 · October 23rd, 2009, 12:57 PM

well we probably wont be doing a dig... so probably a second gear run, around 40mph.

mpe331lx · October 23rd, 2009, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by slick427r

Hmm lets see, 03 mach 1 4.6 v8, 04 cobra 4.6 v8 WITH a supercharger
Cobra FTW!

So, you think just because the cobra has a blower it will be an automatic win?

It amazes me when people look soley at dyno dumbers to judge the outcome of a race

Originally Posted by blue03mach1

well we probably wont be doing a dig... so probably a second gear run, around 40mph.

Why no dig?

What kind of tires are you on?

If you are on a sticky tire and can drive, you WILL win from a dig. It will be a little tougher from a roll.

1StockGT · October 23rd, 2009, 01:31 PM

Should be close, but you will have some problems going from a roll. From about a 40-50mph roll Cobras are nasty and he should hook well if it's still stock. I know mine from a 50 mph roll is nasty even while breaking traction. I say go from a dig and if the Cobra needs the driver mod, you should probably take the win. Depending on your driving of course.

blue03mach1 · October 23rd, 2009, 01:38 PM

right now im on nitto 555s and no i dont get traction at all... all first and allll 2nd i spin til 65ish. i have m/t radials sitting at home and hopefully this weekend or next weekend they will be on. Depends whenever i go home and see the fam. once i put the m/ts on ill deff do a dig.

blue03mach1 · October 23rd, 2009, 01:39 PM

we will probably do both, dig and roll.

mrbigjeep · October 23rd, 2009, 10:41 PM

go from a dig and if your close to what your quarter mile time says, then yes you should win or be even at worst...

Boost4Me · October 24th, 2009, 02:54 AM

Throw the M/T's on and go from a dig. I just moved to Florida and my M/T's are going on next week. Nice day driver only!

4.10s with any kind of decent power kill traction bad.

rk_2000_Z/28 · October 24th, 2009, 12:33 PM

Stock for stock a heavy Cobra 'Vert isn't much quicker than a Mach1. With your mods I really think you have this. Make sure and go from a dig.

Fijistudios · October 28th, 2009, 02:09 AM

what he said ^.

but really i think they lose alot of weight transfer on launches if they are verts.

October 22nd, 2009, 06:18 PM	#1
blue03mach1 Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 508	mach1 vs 04 cobra? my mods are in sig... will i have a chance against a stock convert cobra? my mach1 beats my roush 427r. i know there is a weight difference . __________________ 2008 roush 427- stock for now. quarter mile best-12.77. as of 10/6/09 4k miles. 2003 mach1-03/04 cobra bumper, 4:10 gears, bbk x pipe, JLT short ram, BBK long tubes, Tuned. 321whp, 335wtq. As of 10/6/09 27k miles Quarter mile best- 12.48

October 22nd, 2009, 06:22 PM	#2
ReverendDexter Devil's Advocate '98 Cobra/'90 GT 'vert Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Santa Rosa, CA Posts: 3,836	The advantage you have over the Termie is gears and some weight (likely a lot of weight, probably 400 lbs). I'd say it'll come down to the drivers and the format of the race. __________________ War is Peace \|\| Freedom is Slavery \|\| Ignorance is Strength Founder of the DMC

October 22nd, 2009, 06:34 PM	#4
AzSonicSnake May ROTM 2003 SVT Cobra 11.07@127 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: North Phoenix,AZ Posts: 2,566	honestly, the two 427r's i have raced have been kinda slow. i would still say it would come down to the driver vs the cobra. i have seen some cobras run some fairly crappy #'s... __________________ MM Cobra Club #25 My Autolog Profile HARDCORE CREW

October 22nd, 2009, 08:19 PM	#5
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang 13.62@104 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Terre Haute, IN / St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,869	I'd give a slight advantage to the Termi especially if it is from a roll. Rolls take his weight out of the equation pretty much and negates your advantage with the 4.10s. __________________ Project: Fach You, In Progress

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October 22nd, 2009, 11:24 PM	#7
slick427r Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 6	Hmm lets see, 03 mach 1 4.6 v8, 04 cobra 4.6 v8 WITH a supercharger Cobra FTW! __________________ 2008 Roush 427R-stock but mods to come! 1/4-12.39 Last edited by 06RedfireGT : October 23rd, 2009 at 10:45 AM.

October 23rd, 2009, 11:50 AM	#9
Smoothgrandmama Editor/Blue Cyclone 03 Cobra, 09 GT 1 Minute 23 secs @36 mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Willis,Texas Posts: 3,282	Against the stock Vert you should win handily. but end the race quickle if this is gonna be 140mph street race then he'll catch you. __________________ 360 MM Gaming Crew

October 23rd, 2009, 12:19 PM	#10
blue03mach1 Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 508	so if we run to like end of my 4th around 120mph? i should have him? __________________ 2008 roush 427- stock for now. quarter mile best-12.77. as of 10/6/09 4k miles. 2003 mach1-03/04 cobra bumper, 4:10 gears, bbk x pipe, JLT short ram, BBK long tubes, Tuned. 321whp, 335wtq. As of 10/6/09 27k miles Quarter mile best- 12.48

October 23rd, 2009, 12:22 PM	#11
Smoothgrandmama Editor/Blue Cyclone 03 Cobra, 09 GT 1 Minute 23 secs @36 mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Willis,Texas Posts: 3,282	From a Dig yes. Termi's run hard but a stock termi only runs 12.5-12.9 a vert closer to 12.7-13.1 I just would give him a chance on top......That eaton will pump out the power all the way too the rev limiter @ 6650 and when he shifts down to 4000-4500 it will hit hard.... The t-56 shifts like this 1st 40mph 2nd 80mph 3rd 120mph __________________ 360 MM Gaming Crew Last edited by Smoothgrandmama : October 23rd, 2009 at 12:25 PM.

October 23rd, 2009, 12:57 PM	#12
blue03mach1 Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 508	well we probably wont be doing a dig... so probably a second gear run, around 40mph. __________________ 2008 roush 427- stock for now. quarter mile best-12.77. as of 10/6/09 4k miles. 2003 mach1-03/04 cobra bumper, 4:10 gears, bbk x pipe, JLT short ram, BBK long tubes, Tuned. 321whp, 335wtq. As of 10/6/09 27k miles Quarter mile best- 12.48

October 23rd, 2009, 01:31 PM	#14
1StockGT Enthusiast 2003 Cobra Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Newport News,VA Posts: 598	Should be close, but you will have some problems going from a roll. From about a 40-50mph roll Cobras are nasty and he should hook well if it's still stock. I know mine from a 50 mph roll is nasty even while breaking traction. I say go from a dig and if the Cobra needs the driver mod, you should probably take the win. Depending on your driving of course.

October 23rd, 2009, 01:38 PM	#15
blue03mach1 Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 508	right now im on nitto 555s and no i dont get traction at all... all first and allll 2nd i spin til 65ish. i have m/t radials sitting at home and hopefully this weekend or next weekend they will be on. Depends whenever i go home and see the fam. once i put the m/ts on ill deff do a dig. __________________ 2008 roush 427- stock for now. quarter mile best-12.77. as of 10/6/09 4k miles. 2003 mach1-03/04 cobra bumper, 4:10 gears, bbk x pipe, JLT short ram, BBK long tubes, Tuned. 321whp, 335wtq. As of 10/6/09 27k miles Quarter mile best- 12.48

October 23rd, 2009, 01:39 PM	#16
blue03mach1 Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 508	we will probably do both, dig and roll. __________________ 2008 roush 427- stock for now. quarter mile best-12.77. as of 10/6/09 4k miles. 2003 mach1-03/04 cobra bumper, 4:10 gears, bbk x pipe, JLT short ram, BBK long tubes, Tuned. 321whp, 335wtq. As of 10/6/09 27k miles Quarter mile best- 12.48

October 23rd, 2009, 10:41 PM	#17
mrbigjeep Hardcore Enthusiast 04 mustang gt SLOW Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: upstate sc Posts: 1,684	go from a dig and if your close to what your quarter mile time says, then yes you should win or be even at worst... __________________ SLOW

October 24th, 2009, 02:54 AM	#18
Boost4Me Regular 99 Mustang GT 11.81@115.2 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 121	Throw the M/T's on and go from a dig. I just moved to Florida and my M/T's are going on next week. Nice day driver only! 4.10s with any kind of decent power kill traction bad. __________________ Stroked and Blown

October 24th, 2009, 12:33 PM	#19
rk_2000_Z/28 boats n' hoes 2003 SVT Cobra Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Enid, OK Posts: 2,857	Stock for stock a heavy Cobra 'Vert isn't much quicker than a Mach1. With your mods I really think you have this. Make sure and go from a dig. __________________ 03 Cobra-Slow 02 SS, 00 Z/28-Gone "Mods are like STD's. You don't tell everybody everything. Not even your best friends."

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