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Old October 22nd, 2009, 06:18 PM   #1
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mach1 vs 04 cobra?


my mods are in sig... will i have a chance against a stock convert cobra? my mach1 beats my roush 427r. i know there is a weight difference .
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 06:22 PM   #2
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The advantage you have over the Termie is gears and some weight (likely a lot of weight, probably 400 lbs). I'd say it'll come down to the drivers and the format of the race.
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 06:28 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by ReverendDexter View Post
The advantage you have over the Termie is gears and some weight (likely a lot of weight, probably 400 lbs). I'd say it'll come down to the drivers and the format of the race.
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honestly, the two 427r's i have raced have been kinda slow. i would still say it would come down to the driver vs the cobra. i have seen some cobras run some fairly crappy #'s...
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 08:19 PM   #5
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I'd give a slight advantage to the Termi especially if it is from a roll. Rolls take his weight out of the equation pretty much and negates your advantage with the 4.10s.
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Hmm lets see, 03 mach 1 4.6 v8, 04 cobra 4.6 v8 WITH a supercharger
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Against the stock Vert you should win handily. but end the race quickle if this is gonna be 140mph street race then he'll catch you.
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so if we run to like end of my 4th around 120mph? i should have him?
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From a Dig yes. Termi's run hard but a stock termi only runs 12.5-12.9 a vert closer to 12.7-13.1

I just would give him a chance on top......That eaton will pump out the power all the way too the rev limiter @ 6650 and when he shifts down to 4000-4500 it will hit hard....
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Old October 23rd, 2009, 12:57 PM   #12
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well we probably wont be doing a dig... so probably a second gear run, around 40mph.
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Originally Posted by slick427r View Post
Hmm lets see, 03 mach 1 4.6 v8, 04 cobra 4.6 v8 WITH a supercharger
Cobra FTW!
So, you think just because the cobra has a blower it will be an automatic win?

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Originally Posted by blue03mach1 View Post
well we probably wont be doing a dig... so probably a second gear run, around 40mph.
Why no dig?

What kind of tires are you on?

If you are on a sticky tire and can drive, you WILL win from a dig. It will be a little tougher from a roll.
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Should be close, but you will have some problems going from a roll. From about a 40-50mph roll Cobras are nasty and he should hook well if it's still stock. I know mine from a 50 mph roll is nasty even while breaking traction. I say go from a dig and if the Cobra needs the driver mod, you should probably take the win. Depending on your driving of course.
 
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right now im on nitto 555s and no i dont get traction at all... all first and allll 2nd i spin til 65ish. i have m/t radials sitting at home and hopefully this weekend or next weekend they will be on. Depends whenever i go home and see the fam. once i put the m/ts on ill deff do a dig.
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we will probably do both, dig and roll.
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go from a dig and if your close to what your quarter mile time says, then yes you should win or be even at worst...
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Throw the M/T's on and go from a dig. I just moved to Florida and my M/T's are going on next week. Nice day driver only!

4.10s with any kind of decent power kill traction bad.
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Stock for stock a heavy Cobra 'Vert isn't much quicker than a Mach1. With your mods I really think you have this. Make sure and go from a dig.
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Old October 28th, 2009, 02:09 AM   #20
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what he said ^.

but really i think they lose alot of weight transfer on launches if they are verts.
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