mach1 vs 04 cobra?

blue03mach1 · October 22nd, 2009, 05:18 PM

my mods are in sig... will i have a chance against a stock convert cobra? my mach1 beats my roush 427r. i know there is a weight difference .

ReverendDexter · October 22nd, 2009, 05:22 PM

The advantage you have over the Termie is gears and some weight (likely a lot of weight, probably 400 lbs). I'd say it'll come down to the drivers and the format of the race.

pyschopath76 · October 22nd, 2009, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by ReverendDexter

The advantage you have over the Termie is gears and some weight (likely a lot of weight, probably 400 lbs). I'd say it'll come down to the drivers and the format of the race.

+1.

AzSonicSnake · October 22nd, 2009, 05:34 PM

honestly, the two 427r's i have raced have been kinda slow. i would still say it would come down to the driver vs the cobra. i have seen some cobras run some fairly crappy #'s...

Mach Boy · October 22nd, 2009, 07:19 PM

I'd give a slight advantage to the Termi especially if it is from a roll. Rolls take his weight out of the equation pretty much and negates your advantage with the 4.10s.

AMmuslGT · October 22nd, 2009, 07:38 PM

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slick427r · October 22nd, 2009, 10:24 PM

Hmm lets see, 03 mach 1 4.6 v8, 04 cobra 4.6 v8 WITH a supercharger
Cobra FTW!

06RedfireGT · October 23rd, 2009, 09:50 AM

Let's keep the flaming in the Burnout Box.

Smoothgrandmama · October 23rd, 2009, 10:50 AM

Against the stock Vert you should win handily. but end the race quickle if this is gonna be 140mph street race then he'll catch you.

blue03mach1 · October 23rd, 2009, 11:19 AM

so if we run to like end of my 4th around 120mph? i should have him?

Smoothgrandmama · October 23rd, 2009, 11:22 AM

From a Dig yes. Termi's run hard but a stock termi only runs 12.5-12.9 a vert closer to 12.7-13.1

I just would give him a chance on top......That eaton will pump out the power all the way too the rev limiter @ 6650 and when he shifts down to 4000-4500 it will hit hard....
The t-56 shifts like this
1st 40mph
2nd 80mph
3rd 120mph

blue03mach1 · October 23rd, 2009, 11:57 AM

well we probably wont be doing a dig... so probably a second gear run, around 40mph.

mpe331lx · October 23rd, 2009, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by slick427r

Hmm lets see, 03 mach 1 4.6 v8, 04 cobra 4.6 v8 WITH a supercharger
Cobra FTW!

So, you think just because the cobra has a blower it will be an automatic win?

It amazes me when people look soley at dyno dumbers to judge the outcome of a race

Originally Posted by blue03mach1

well we probably wont be doing a dig... so probably a second gear run, around 40mph.

Why no dig?

What kind of tires are you on?

If you are on a sticky tire and can drive, you WILL win from a dig. It will be a little tougher from a roll.

1StockGT · October 23rd, 2009, 12:31 PM

Should be close, but you will have some problems going from a roll. From about a 40-50mph roll Cobras are nasty and he should hook well if it's still stock. I know mine from a 50 mph roll is nasty even while breaking traction. I say go from a dig and if the Cobra needs the driver mod, you should probably take the win. Depending on your driving of course.

blue03mach1 · October 23rd, 2009, 12:38 PM

right now im on nitto 555s and no i dont get traction at all... all first and allll 2nd i spin til 65ish. i have m/t radials sitting at home and hopefully this weekend or next weekend they will be on. Depends whenever i go home and see the fam. once i put the m/ts on ill deff do a dig.

blue03mach1 · October 23rd, 2009, 12:39 PM

we will probably do both, dig and roll.

mrbigjeep · October 23rd, 2009, 09:41 PM

go from a dig and if your close to what your quarter mile time says, then yes you should win or be even at worst...

Boost4Me · October 24th, 2009, 01:54 AM

Throw the M/T's on and go from a dig. I just moved to Florida and my M/T's are going on next week. Nice day driver only!

4.10s with any kind of decent power kill traction bad.

rk_2000_Z/28 · October 24th, 2009, 11:33 AM

Stock for stock a heavy Cobra 'Vert isn't much quicker than a Mach1. With your mods I really think you have this. Make sure and go from a dig.

Fijistudios · October 28th, 2009, 01:09 AM

what he said ^.

but really i think they lose alot of weight transfer on launches if they are verts.

October 22nd, 2009, 05:18 PM	#1
blue03mach1 Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 522 iTrader: 0 reviews	mach1 vs 04 cobra? my mods are in sig... will i have a chance against a stock convert cobra? my mach1 beats my roush 427r. i know there is a weight difference .

October 22nd, 2009, 05:22 PM	#2
ReverendDexter Priest of the Car Gods Clapped-out '90 GT 'vert ~5.5 seconds off TTOD :( Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 13,808 iTrader: 0 reviews	The advantage you have over the Termie is gears and some weight (likely a lot of weight, probably 400 lbs). I'd say it'll come down to the drivers and the format of the race. __________________ O o /¯/______________________ \|BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!! \_\

October 22nd, 2009, 05:34 PM	#4
AzSonicSnake 2009 ROTY 2003 SVT Cobra 11.07@127 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: North Phoenix,AZ Posts: 5,640 iTrader: 1 reviews	honestly, the two 427r's i have raced have been kinda slow. i would still say it would come down to the driver vs the cobra. i have seen some cobras run some fairly crappy #'s... __________________ MM Cobra Club #25 My Autolog Profile

October 22nd, 2009, 07:19 PM	#5
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,846 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	I'd give a slight advantage to the Termi especially if it is from a roll. Rolls take his weight out of the equation pretty much and negates your advantage with the 4.10s. __________________ Looking for 03/04 4V ABS Wiring Harness Connector/Incomplete Wiring Harness (with ABS connector)

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October 22nd, 2009, 10:24 PM	#7
slick427r Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 7 iTrader: 0 reviews	Hmm lets see, 03 mach 1 4.6 v8, 04 cobra 4.6 v8 WITH a supercharger Cobra FTW! __________________ 2008 Roush 427R-stock but mods to come! 1/4-12.39 Last edited by 06RedfireGT; October 23rd, 2009 at 09:45 AM.

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Smoothgrandmama Assistant to the Manager 12 GT 8.46@88 1/8 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Willis,Texas Posts: 7,135 iTrader: 6 reviews	Against the stock Vert you should win handily. but end the race quickle if this is gonna be 140mph street race then he'll catch you. __________________ Join The MM Facebook: Modded Mustangs Facebook Vote For Modded Mustangs Ride of the Month Eskimo Brothers To Smooth: Safi, Blitz34, Graystang01, WillTheThrill, Bwal, 101Fng

October 23rd, 2009, 11:19 AM	#10
blue03mach1 Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 522 iTrader: 0 reviews	so if we run to like end of my 4th around 120mph? i should have him?

October 23rd, 2009, 11:22 AM	#11
Smoothgrandmama Assistant to the Manager 12 GT 8.46@88 1/8 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Willis,Texas Posts: 7,135 iTrader: 6 reviews	From a Dig yes. Termi's run hard but a stock termi only runs 12.5-12.9 a vert closer to 12.7-13.1 I just would give him a chance on top......That eaton will pump out the power all the way too the rev limiter @ 6650 and when he shifts down to 4000-4500 it will hit hard.... The t-56 shifts like this 1st 40mph 2nd 80mph 3rd 120mph __________________ Join The MM Facebook: Modded Mustangs Facebook Vote For Modded Mustangs Ride of the Month Eskimo Brothers To Smooth: Safi, Blitz34, Graystang01, WillTheThrill, Bwal, 101Fng Last edited by Smoothgrandmama; October 23rd, 2009 at 11:25 AM.

October 23rd, 2009, 11:57 AM	#12
blue03mach1 Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 522 iTrader: 0 reviews	well we probably wont be doing a dig... so probably a second gear run, around 40mph.

October 23rd, 2009, 12:31 PM	#14
1StockGT Enthusiast 2003 Cobra Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Newport News,VA Posts: 628 iTrader: 1 reviews	Should be close, but you will have some problems going from a roll. From about a 40-50mph roll Cobras are nasty and he should hook well if it's still stock. I know mine from a 50 mph roll is nasty even while breaking traction. I say go from a dig and if the Cobra needs the driver mod, you should probably take the win. Depending on your driving of course.

October 23rd, 2009, 12:38 PM	#15
blue03mach1 Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 522 iTrader: 0 reviews	right now im on nitto 555s and no i dont get traction at all... all first and allll 2nd i spin til 65ish. i have m/t radials sitting at home and hopefully this weekend or next weekend they will be on. Depends whenever i go home and see the fam. once i put the m/ts on ill deff do a dig.

October 23rd, 2009, 12:39 PM	#16
blue03mach1 Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 522 iTrader: 0 reviews	we will probably do both, dig and roll.

October 23rd, 2009, 09:41 PM	#17
mrbigjeep I Post Entirely Way Too Much 04 mustang gt 7.21 @ 98 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: upstate sc Posts: 5,923 iTrader: 1 reviews	go from a dig and if your close to what your quarter mile time says, then yes you should win or be even at worst... __________________ cams + 150 shot

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October 24th, 2009, 01:54 AM	#18
Boost4Me Regular 99 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 131 iTrader: 1 reviews	Throw the M/T's on and go from a dig. I just moved to Florida and my M/T's are going on next week. Nice day driver only! 4.10s with any kind of decent power kill traction bad. __________________ Stroked and Blown

October 24th, 2009, 11:33 AM	#19
rk_2000_Z/28 Forever in our hearts travis_afx 2003 SVT Cobra Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Enid, OK Posts: 4,311 iTrader: 0 reviews	Stock for stock a heavy Cobra 'Vert isn't much quicker than a Mach1. With your mods I really think you have this. Make sure and go from a dig. __________________ 03 Cobra-Slow 02 SS, 00 Z/28-Gone Rest In Peace Travis Billings

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