[TaintedStang]

My Boss's son just went and bought a Challenger R/T and I was wondering how it compares to my mustang in the 1320. I have a GT with the 5 speed manual tranny with an MGW short throw shifter. Performance mods are the typical bolt on's, it has a JLT ram air intake,70mm bbk throttle body,trickflow plenum,steeda underdrive pullies,o/r x midpipe with a flowmaster 2.5" axle back exhaust system and 3.73 gears. His car is bone stock and i'm not sure whether he has an automatic or manual transmission. I know that challenger has more power than my car but it also weighs a few hundred pounds more than mine also. The odds of us ever racing are slim but it's nice to size up the competition every once in a while. As for my shifting abilities I grew up around driving a stick so I have alot of experience and i've gotten good at powershifting my car. I don't have any timeslips with this car yet. I was planning to take it to the first track day at our local strip till I learned last week that it's shut down till someone else buy's it so that plan is on hold for the time being.

[F8L GT]

it will be close, i believe the stock R/Ts are a mid to high 13 sec 1/4 mile

[TaintedStang]

Originally Posted by F8L GT it will be close, i believe the stock R/Ts are a mid to high 13 sec 1/4 mile

Thanks F8L! I was thinking it would be pretty much a drivers race till around a 100mph after that I know the challenger will start pulling pretty good on me. I need some boost to keep up with the competition.

[08v6stang]

edmunds says this car does the 1/4 in 14.1. They are heavy as fuck.

[Blackbird1084]

I've seen bone stock 6spd r/t's run 13.8@102. But I haven't seen an auto version at the track yet but they shouldn't be much diffrent. It should be a close race.

[08v6stang]

yea edmunds car was auto that they used, so 14.1 sounds about right maybe 14.0

[TaintedStang]

Don't our new edge GT's run around a 14.0-14.2 bone stock with a good run through the quarter? 13.8-14.0 is a dissappointment for a car with that much power. Weight is not on that car's side. What do you guy's think my car can run? I was hoping to get between a 13.0-13.5 with a perfect run at an elevation of just a couple hundred feet above sea level.

[tfofkyle]

supposedly the auto runs a better quarter than the 6 speed. i personally went a few rounds with a 6 spd srt8 challenger and would consistently lose by about 1-2 cars. that was when i was strictly NPI, bolton, 4.10 geared. fwiw i ran a new edge with the same mods as you, and he moved away quicker than the srt8 did. and my buddy went 13.77 in his 2000 gt, o/r x pipe only, on 245 general uhp's at 2.0 60 ft.

[08v6stang]

Originally Posted by tfofkyle supposedly the auto runs a better quarter than the 6 speed. i personally went a few rounds with a 6 spd srt8 challenger and would consistently lose by about 1-2 cars. that was when i was strictly NPI, bolton, 4.10 geared. fwiw i ran a new edge with the same mods as you, and he moved away quicker than the srt8 did. and my buddy went 13.77 in his 2000 gt, o/r x pipe only, on 245 general uhp's at 2.0 60 ft.

srt8's have a lot more power don't they (over the r/t)

[TaintedStang]

Originally Posted by tfofkyle supposedly the auto runs a better quarter than the 6 speed. i personally went a few rounds with a 6 spd srt8 challenger and would consistently lose by about 1-2 cars. that was when i was strictly NPI, bolton, 4.10 geared. fwiw i ran a new edge with the same mods as you, and he moved away quicker than the srt8 did. and my buddy went 13.77 in his 2000 gt, o/r x pipe only, on 245 general uhp's at 2.0 60 ft.

So far the only car i've raced with mine is an SN-95 4.6. It was a bone stock auto. The driver stopped me on the way home from work one day asking me if I wanted too race. I agreed and we raced twice once from a 20 roll and the other from a dig it was no contest obviously. I had to have pulled 15 car lengths on that car by 100mph. I'm not gonna brag about that win since obviously I should have won but it was fun. A guy that used to work with me a couple years ago just started back last week and he now has a SN-95 4.6 Gt also with a 5 speed manual. It has a few bolt on's and he keeps hinting at racing so we gotta get that one scheduled. Everytime I see him he keeps joking about him removing one of the sparkplugs to make our race more fair. He's a cool guy and I know he's just joking.

[TaintedStang]

Originally Posted by 08v6stang srt8's have a lot more power don't they (over the r/t)

Here's the stat's I got from a road&track and motor trend magazine I have in my hand. I got these figures from magazines so i'm not gonna say they are 100% accurate.

R/T stats acquired from Road&Track
Horsepower=376
Torque=410
1/4mile time=14.1@101.2mph
Curb Weight=4135

SRT8 stats acquired from Motor Trend
Horsepower=425
Torque=420
1/4mile time=13.1@108.3mph
Curb Weight=4137

[08v6stang]

wow tq isn't that much different...

[Chopsaw78]

I think you have a very good chance to pull of a win here. I will see if I can round up a vid from Woodburn in Oregon. with a friend of a friends gt. It is a stock Chally R/T, manual vs. a 02 GT 5 speed with a tri-ax, a pypes cat back, and a CAI (not sure of brand and tune), sticky tires and the 02 ate it up. The chally guy missed a shift the first race and lost by a lot. But the second race was closer, i am sure 2 1/2 -3 lengths.

[TaintedStang]

Originally Posted by 08v6stang wow tq isn't that much different...

Yea makes me wonder if it's not a typo.

[TaintedStang]

Originally Posted by Chopsaw78 I think you have a very good chance to pull of a win here. I will see if I can round up a vid from Woodburn in Oregon. with a friend of a friends gt. It is a stock Chally R/T, manual vs. a 02 GT 5 speed with a tri-ax, a pypes cat back, and a CAI (not sure of brand and tune), sticky tires and the 02 ate it up. The chally guy missed a shift the first race and lost by a lot. But the second race was closer, i am sure 2 1/2 -3 lengths.

Yea I would love to see those vids. Nice car.

[08v6stang]

isn't the r/t 5.7L, and srt8 6.1L?

[TaintedStang]

Originally Posted by 08v6stang isn't the r/t 5.7L, and srt8 6.1L?

[08v6stang]

and only 10 ft/lbs of tq different? doesn't sound right to me.....

[08v6stang]

and only 2 lbs heavier?

[Blackbird1084]

As far as I know both the 5.7 and 6.1 use the same block which would explain the minor weight diffrence. There only being a 10ftlb diffrence could be in the tune and be a result of the car using the same size stroke(I think it's the same crank) in both motors. Of far as ci advantage your talking a mere 14 or so diffrence which isn't that much. Now if it was a 350ci to a 383,396,408 or in that area where it gained 30 or more cubes then yeah 10ftlbs wouldn't be squat.